Vaccine denied to those who falsify their age; BMA postpones jabs for under 60s

[snoop1130]

 

BANGKOK (NNT) - The Health authority has warned that vaccination providers will deny service to anyone who falsifies their age to get an earlier position in the queue for senior citizens, despite them already having a valid appointment.

 

The Central Vaccination Center at Bang Sue Grand Station in Bangkok has reported a number of vaccination appointments made by people falsifying their age when registering, hoping to secure a spot in the quota for citizens aged 60 and over.

 

The Department of Medical Services has announced that any person who falsifies their age when making an appointment will be turned away at the vaccination center, after ID card checks reveal the individuals true age, as available vaccines are currently being allocated to senior citizens and those with underlying health conditions who are at a much higher risk of death from COVID-19.

 

The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration’s Safe Bangkok vaccination campaign, has started accepting vaccination bookings from residents of Bangkok aged 60 years or older, born before 17th July 1961.

 

Meanwhile, all appointments for people aged 18-59 years old, who were the main target of the Safe Bangkok campaign initially, have been postponed indefinitely.

 

The campaign managers say this change in eligibility is in line with the latest vaccination policy to prioritize elders and people with underlying diseases, while giving an assurance the postponed appointments for younger people will be reconfirmed once City Hall receives more vaccine supplies.

 

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[ThailandRyan]

Well if you had a true vaccine program this would not be an issue.

[RotBenz8888]

11 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

get an earlier position in the queue

Is there any other way you'll let me jump the queue????????????

[Crossy]

1 hour ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Is there any other way you'll let me jump the queue????????????

 

Get a stripey shirt, a bicycle, a beret and some onions. 

[thaitom]

Then why are they giving this AZ to anyone now ? This week there were people of all ages (not children) receiving it.

[nowhereman]

My Thai relative today posted this photo on FB. She's in her early thirties and works in food industry as an office worker, her husband is a young army guy. She has no comorbidity, lives close to BKK. And I've seen so many young people that are my Facebook friends bragging and posting on FB when getting a jab. There is definitely something wrong with the inoculation strategy. It's called acquaintances and corruption.     

 

Edited July 16, 2021 by nowhereman

[internationalism]

I think bangkok and around are dark red and everybody suppose to have a jab asap, despite of age and medical conditions.

Probably sinovac for the great majority and AZ for the few chosen ones

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Meanwhile, all appointments for people aged 18-59 years old, who were the main target of the Safe Bangkok campaign initially, have been postponed indefinitely.

 

Ohh Lord!!!!

 

It's right and medically correct to vaccine the elderly population and those at medical risk first.

 

But the fact Thailand is so short of vaccines in BKK that they're deferring all vaccine appointments for those under 60 is a SAD indictment of the current state of affairs.

 

PS - the government previously HAD a stated goal of wanting to achieve a 70% vaccination rate in BKK by the end of July...  Guess that's not gonna happen!

 

Now the question is, how much of the elderly population only are they gonna cover.

 

As of about a week ago, the last vaccination stats I saw for the overall BKK population from MoPH was about 39% of the population having received one shot and only about 12% having received both.

 

 

Edited July 16, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, nowhereman said:

There is definitely something wrong with the inoculation strategy.

 

There's an actual "strategy"? Who knew?   ????

 

What day of the week is it?  Let me check the latest strategy for Fridays....

 

[webfact]

Up to 100 people in Bangkok pose as elderly in attempt to get vaccinated

 

 

Up to 100 people have been caught posing as the elderly in an attempt to get vaccinated at Bang Sue Grand Station, Bangkok’s main vaccination site for people aged 60 and over.

 

Many entered the incorrect age when they registered for vaccination through Thailand’s four main mobile phone operators and received an SMS or QR code containing their vaccination appointments.

 

Once they arrived for their appointments, however, their real age was discovered and they were turned away without getting inoculated, according to Dr. Mingkwan Wichaidit, who runs the vaccination site.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/up-to-100-people-in-bangkok-pose-as-elderly-in-attempt-to-get-vaccinated/

 

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[Credo]

A lot of people may well cross over into the elderly category by the time the vaccine is available.

[FarFlungFalang]

9 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

But the fact Thailand is so short of vaccines in BKK that they're deferring all vaccine appointments for those under 60 is a SAD indictment of the current state of affairs.

 

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

hoping to secure a spot in the quota for citizens aged 60 and over.

They are not deferring "all" vaccine appointments for those under 60.There is a quota for the elderly and a queue for those 60 and over and that's the queue some are trying to jump.They are still vaccinating under 60's in the army for instance and any body with connections and money and those Thais in clusters in Thai factories etc.

[ThailandRyan]

Just get it done and procure more vaccines so the process can get rolling along and those that want to be vaccinated can.  It does not take a rocket scientist to understand why these people want to be vaccinated.  Whose fault is it anyway mister PM and company.

[hotchilli]

16 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Is there any other way you'll let me jump the queue????????????

 

[Caldera]

Those cheaters aren't very intelligent, are they? It is made clear that they need to bring their ID cards, so at that point, unsurprisingly they were found out.

[happydreamer]

What?  No Vaccination Agencies to extort me and move me to the front of the queue.  Boy this place has really gone to he77.

[Enzian]

I have a theory that in hierarchical societies, be they at either end of the spectrum from fascist to socialist, where the elite is under a different rule of law than everyone else,  eventually almost everyone in that culture becomes corrupt. We saw it in Eastern Europe, I've seen it in Vietnam, it's everywhere.

[connda]

In the meanwhile vaccinations that should be going for the elderly have been sent to government workers, factory workers whose owners are connected, construction workers whose owners are connected, any businesses whose owners are connected, tourist locations, Phuket, various islands, Koh Larn, workers in the tourism industries, retailer workers whose owners are connected blah blah blah  - so really? 

Make out the commoners who want shots badly enough to fake their age as the problem and label them as "bad people."  As corporate and government entities distribute vaccines to everyone except the elderly and infirm.

I'm looking for a word.  Hummmm -  Hypocritical *******s.

Edited July 17, 2021 by connda

[connda]

20 hours ago, nowhereman said:

"Hi.  I identify as a 70 year old woman."

Edited July 17, 2021 by connda

[connda]

3 hours ago, Enzian said:

I have a theory that in hierarchical societies, be they at either end of the spectrum from fascist to socialist, where the elite is under a different rule of law than everyone else,  eventually almost everyone in that culture becomes corrupt. We saw it in Eastern Europe, I've seen it in Vietnam, it's everywhere.

And Thailand is different how? <laughs>  Corruption permeates the entire social structure from top to bottom.  Don't get me wrong.  There are some good, moral people.  But they are an anomaly. 

[connda]

You're not 60!  No shot for you!
"I'm a Bangsaen beach operator."
Well why didn't you say so.  Right this way.  Roll up your sleeve.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1224324-1200-bangsaen-beach-operators-and-residents-receive-first-covid-19-sinovac-vaccines

 

[MayBeNow]

Almost all my wifes friends from Bangkok got their first vaccinations 4 to 8 weeks ago. Most through their employers, others through the regular way. They are in their thirties and fourties with no underlaying health issues i heared of. 

 

Thailand is a class society, if you have a simple (manual) job, no connections or your a foreigner without connections (= not of Thai blood) you come last. This is the reason there will not be a lockdown for now. The ones dying are expendable, the lower strata of Thai society. Its sad but this is how SE Asia is. The ones that mean something have been vaccinated already. A lockdown would hurt the economy too much.

 

I truly detest how it goes here, the class structures which seem indestructable, but it is how society sadly functions here.

 

This is the same all over SE Asia. My ex gf mum, from Indonesia, vaccinated 2 months ago, paid good money for it. Acquaintances in Myanmar, not connected to the junta=no vaccination.

 

 

Edited July 17, 2021 by MayBeNow

[herfiehandbag]

8 hours ago, happydreamer said:

What?  No Vaccination Agencies to extort me and move me to the front of the queue.  Boy this place has really gone to he77.

It is only a matter of time, they will surface sooner or later!

[club]

Now the truth, Thailand is running out of vaccines ( except for Sinovac) and is looking for any excuse it can to stop vaccinations. They probably found 1 or 2 people lying about their age. As far as Sinovac, Many Thai people are wise to this now and are refusing the China Vaccine.

[PeeJayEm]

On 7/16/2021 at 1:34 PM, nowhereman said:

My Thai relative today posted this photo on FB. She's in her early thirties and works in food industry as an office worker, her husband is a young army guy. She has no comorbidity, lives close to BKK. And I've seen so many young people that are my Facebook friends bragging and posting on FB when getting a jab. There is definitely something wrong with the inoculation strategy. It's called acquaintances and corruption.     

 

Yes - totally corrupt within the "citizen" cohort and also inherently rascist in all other dimensions.

Why is any vaccination centre only for "citizens".  All human residents have the same health requirements based on age and underlying illness. 

[herfiehandbag]

9 hours ago, PeeJayEm said:

Yes - totally corrupt within the "citizen" cohort and also inherently rascist in all other dimensions.

Why is any vaccination centre only for "citizens".  All human residents have the same health requirements based on age and underlying illness. 

The vaccination programme is driven by fundemental political considerations. It rewards what they see as "their people".

 

There is a shortfall in vaccines, therefore vaccination will be decided by wealth, influence, connections and political demographics. In other words, if you are a comparatively well off office worker for a favoured company, living in an area which returns an appropriate MP then you get on the list. A peasant farmer or factory worker from an area which has a record of supporting the opposition - forget it.

 

As for foreigners, sorry guys, but if you were lucky it was window dressing to show how inclusive they were being, probably in the hope of poncing some more donated vaccines.

Edited July 17, 2021 by herfiehandbag