StevieAus Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Aussieroaming said: When I moved here to Thailand I realised that by doing so I had to forfeit my future pension unless I returned to Australia for 2 years, so I decided to save more and forgo any future pension claims and have hence worked towards being a self funded retiree. The point I was making was the way they have lowered the bar by means of the assets test. I saw the writing on the wall years ago and did exactly what you are doing now. Many of my friends in Australia are in the same boat working hard and planning for a little extra in the future doesn’t pay off in Australia. I compare this with the UK I worked there for about 6/7 years in the late sixties early seventies and was surprised to find out that on retirement I was eligible for a small pension. No need to go back and apply like Australia all done online. Anyway I am glad I made the decision to retire here very happy despite all the whingers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grego49 Posted July 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2021 5 hours ago, DrJack54 said: Anyone registered using phone? Yes mate and got excepted email this morning,will be getting taxi there from kanchanaburi and get him to wait and bring me home have used him before to see skin doctor in bkk,cheers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, grego49 said: Yes mate and got excepted email this morning,will be getting taxi there from kanchanaburi and get him to wait and bring me home have used him before to see skin doctor in bkk,cheers Interesting. I provided all my details 7pm last night and received rejection email 1pm today. Reason : appointments full. Interested as to how you were successful. Hopefully you get your shot tomorrow. Long drive. How does it work for return from Bangkok. No issues? Please post your experience tomorrow, I'm sure folk would be interested. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemises Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 minute ago, DrJack54 said: Interesting. I provided all my details 7pm last night and received rejection Interesting because I provided mine at 7.22 pm last night and was accepted. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superal Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 7 hours ago, itsari said: Going to Bangkok will suit nobody . and have to do a 14 day quarantine when they return to their homes having been to deep red zone Bangkok 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsari Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 44 minutes ago, StevieAus said: The point I was making was the way they have lowered the bar by means of the assets test. I saw the writing on the wall years ago and did exactly what you are doing now. Many of my friends in Australia are in the same boat working hard and planning for a little extra in the future doesn’t pay off in Australia. I compare this with the UK I worked there for about 6/7 years in the late sixties early seventies and was surprised to find out that on retirement I was eligible for a small pension. No need to go back and apply like Australia all done online. Anyway I am glad I made the decision to retire here very happy despite all the whingers. Australia has rules of its own when it comes to payments for earned pensions . At least you will be paid by the UK where ever you decide to retire . Not so sure about Australia . I worked and lived there for 16 years . Unlikely I get anything . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, steven100 said: please call them and be sure to let them know .... You think your funny ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kwonitoy Posted July 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Nemises said: 36 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Interesting. I provided all my details 7pm last night and received rejection Interesting because I provided mine at 7.22 pm last night and was accepted. Interesting, I got the e-mail from the Canadian embassy at 7pm, replied by 7.05pm and have heard S F A back. So that's all 3 bases covered Edited July 17, 2021 by kwonitoy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placnx Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 3 hours ago, pmarlin said: American emb sent out the same thing last night. I guess that you're on some sort of priority list then. I got notification this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placnx Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Neeranam said: His location says USA, they think their time is Universal. His location is the Republic of Texas. Chauvinism there is only second to China. Edited July 17, 2021 by placnx 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placnx Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 41 minutes ago, Nemises said: Interesting because I provided mine at 7.22 pm last night and was accepted. Perhaps country quotas are the reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevieAus Posted July 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, itsari said: Australia has rules of its own when it comes to payments for earned pensions . At least you will be paid by the UK where ever you decide to retire . Not so sure about Australia . I worked and lived there for 16 years . Unlikely I get anything . The problem with the Australian Aged Pension is that it is means tested and as I stated in the early post the requirements have been tightened in recent years to exclude more people. Also you have to be in the country to apply and there are also fairly strict residential requirements, again in my opinion to exclude more recipients. I have spoken to expats from several other countries including the US, none of whom face face such onerous requirements. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post unblocktheplanet Posted July 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) Settle down now! This is blowing smoke just as thick as the junta's! Five countries (Australia, Austria, Canada, New Zealand & USA) notified citizens who were registered with their embassies (lots are not) on Friday evening. Had to register by noon Saturday. For AZ jabs Sunday at a remote cement factory on the northern outskirts of Bangkok. Expats who lived upcountry were not accommodated. I've now read everything public about this wham-bam process & discovered each embassy was allotted only 100 jabs! The dips must be taking night school from the dics in power! This febrile effort is sure to result in even more breakthrough rage ffrom expats. Dudes, they have NO intention of making sure we're vaxxed... Edited July 17, 2021 by unblocktheplanet addition 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkk Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 45 minutes ago, superal said: and have to do a 14 day quarantine when they return to their homes having been to deep red zone Bangkok I wonder how much you need to pay a taxi driver to do a return trip to Bangkok and then not work for 14 days? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overt2016 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 that's great news, but it is now 4-11pm 'oops too late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsari Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 minute ago, StevieAus said: The problem with the Australian Aged Pension is that it is means tested and as I stated in the early post the requirements have been tightened in recent years to exclude more people. Also you have to be in the country to apply and there are also fairly strict residential requirements, again in my opinion to exclude more recipients. I have spoken to expats from several other countries including the US, none of whom face face such onerous requirements. Thank you for you input . I have lived in a country that has a social agreement with Australia for many years . I am waiting for a reply on the years spent in Australia to be added to the pension i receive . I am not holding my hopes up high on any success sad to say . The real problem with Australian aged pensions is there is no means to appeal . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watthong Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said: I've now read everything public about this wham-bam process & discovered each embassy was allotted only 100 jabs! Token beau geste courtesy of Thailand to its (bigger) allies... But a slap in the face to the expat community at large. At least what it did was waken us to our sense and turn elsewhere for our survival and comfort. While the American (et al) "window of vaccination opportunity" opened and closed in less time than it took the lady to open two bottles of beers (with her "opener"), good old thaiintervac portal was equally open and let you through to register with MedPark, in a leisurely manner and especially, in style ("hey, no pushing or shoving please, folks!") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanaplaza666 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 5 hours ago, John Drake said: What are you talking about? Do you live here? Thais are getting AZ, and it's not much better than Sinovac. Yes i live here and not much better in my book is still better . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsari Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, StevieAus said: The problem with the Australian Aged Pension is that it is means tested and as I stated in the early post the requirements have been tightened in recent years to exclude more people. Also you have to be in the country to apply and there are also fairly strict residential requirements, again in my opinion to exclude more recipients. I have spoken to expats from several other countries including the US, none of whom face face such onerous requirements. You write the facts and well put . I have met many Australian citizens and migrant Australians that are being robbed of there pension rights . It is a shame when you consider Australia has grown from immigration over the last 300 years . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overt2016 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, itsari said: Thank you for you input . I have lived in a country that has a social agreement with Australia for many years . I am waiting for a reply on the years spent in Australia to be added to the pension i receive . I am not holding my hopes up high on any success sad to say . The real problem with Australian aged pensions is there is no means to appeal . Yes there is!!!! I returned to OZ back in 2014 [aged66] and was knocked backed.I appealed and was eventually was given the full pension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 10 hours ago, pegman said: Likely shamed into doing it because of that stupid Embassy joke post. Be nice if more countries did this for their nationals. For a nice change France taking the lead in showing the way! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Rex Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Aussieroaming said: I could apply for citizenship given that i moved there nearly 50 years ago, don't have any type of police record, got my tertiary education in Australia and paid tax for 30 odd years. Plus my now adult children are Australian by birth. I didn't in the past because I felt that I was treated pretty equally to a citizen in all matters including voting rights, health care and owning property etc. Maybe I will feel different after this and consider duel citizenship with my UK Passport. I am an Australian citizen , and like you I have paid bucket loads of tax over the last 35 years working in Australia. I have now made the choice to live in Thailand - (like you?). I expect to receive nothing from Australia in the future . I will not be eligible for any government support or pension. I do , however, understand that the benefits that I received while living in Australia- education for myself (free) and subsidised for my children , free health care , stable (<deleted>$y government) and a true first world lifestyle- all come at a cost. I think it is a bit much to expect to get the tax that We have paid back in our retirement. As far as I know it was never a loan. such is life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsari Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, overt2016 said: Yes there is!!!! I returned to OZ back in 2014 [aged66] and was knocked backed.I appealed and was eventually was given the full pension. I just say two words , returned or outside the country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsari Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, G Rex said: I am an Australian citizen , and like you I have paid bucket loads of tax over the last 35 years working in Australia. I have now made the choice to live in Thailand - (like you?). I expect to receive nothing from Australia in the future . I will not be eligible for any government support or pension. I do , however, understand that the benefits that I received while living in Australia- education for myself (free) and subsidised for my children , free health care , stable (<deleted>$y government) and a true first world lifestyle- all come at a cost. I think it is a bit much to expect to get the tax that We have paid back in our retirement. As far as I know it was never a loan. such is life One thing you are correct on . Dont expect any pension from Australia whether you have paid buckets of tax or not . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsari Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, StevieAus said: The problem with the Australian Aged Pension is that it is means tested and as I stated in the early post the requirements have been tightened in recent years to exclude more people. Also you have to be in the country to apply and there are also fairly strict residential requirements, again in my opinion to exclude more recipients. I have spoken to expats from several other countries including the US, none of whom face face such onerous requirements. Dr Jack has a strange sense of humour it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsari Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, G Rex said: I am an Australian citizen , and like you I have paid bucket loads of tax over the last 35 years working in Australia. I have now made the choice to live in Thailand - (like you?). I expect to receive nothing from Australia in the future . I will not be eligible for any government support or pension. I do , however, understand that the benefits that I received while living in Australia- education for myself (free) and subsidised for my children , free health care , stable (<deleted>$y government) and a true first world lifestyle- all come at a cost. I think it is a bit much to expect to get the tax that We have paid back in our retirement. As far as I know it was never a loan. such is life You are nieve . Good luck to you that does not need what you paid into . Many are in the opposite position . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, itsari said: Dr Jack has a strange sense of humour it seems Several posts above show lack of understanding of the word Pension. In Oz it refers to "old age pension". This is not the case in UK or USA for example. I'm not from those countries but their use of the word Pension is completely different from AU. In Oz we have superannuation. That is an amount that is taken out of your pre tax income. Currently think it's 9%. The government in turn matches that. That is what many Australians retire on. In any event all this is off topic. Nothing to do with thread. BTW permanent resident in my book means little. You have easy passage to obtain Au citizenship. Edited July 17, 2021 by DrJack54 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said: Settle down now! This is blowing smoke just as thick as the junta's! Five countries (Australia, Austria, Canada, New Zealand & USA) notified citizens who were registered with their embassies (lots are not) on Friday evening. Had to register by noon Saturday. For AZ jabs Sunday at a remote cement factory on the northern outskirts of Bangkok. Expats who lived upcountry were not accommodated. I've now read everything public about this wham-bam process & discovered each embassy was allotted only 100 jabs! The dips must be taking night school from the dics in power! This febrile effort is sure to result in even more breakthrough rage ffrom expats. Dudes, they have NO intention of making sure we're vaxxed... nah, they didn't learn this idiocy from the Thais - just look at the track records in the west to see where this came from. PR bs at it's worst.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsari Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Just now, DrJack54 said: Several posts above show lack of understanding of the word Pension. In Oz it refers to "old age pension". This is not the case in UK or USA for example. I'm not from those countries but their use of the word Pension is completely different from AU. In Oz we have superannuation. That is an amount that is taken out of your pre tax income. Currently think it's 9%. The government in turn matches that. That is what many Australians retire on. In any event all this is off topic. Nothing to do with thread. Off topic yes , yet somewhat relevant to Australias good will to there citizens living in Thailand offering in short notice to obtain a vaccine only in dark red Bangkok . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 minute ago, itsari said: Off topic yes , yet somewhat relevant to Australias good will to there citizens living in Thailand offering in short notice to obtain a vaccine only in dark red Bangkok . No such thing occured. The AU and other Ambassadors arranged little publicly stunt. Dish out few crumbs perhaps as low as 100 jabs per country and do a little video release. I provided details as soon as site was up last night and didn't get an appointment. Exactly what happens at daily registrations at those 2 bkk hospitals. It's a big game. A joke. Bar Bar black sheep rubbish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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