Health Min confident an extension of elevated measures will cut infection rates

[Jonathan Fairfield]

 

BANGKOK (NNT) - The Department of Disease Control (DDC) says that further use of elevated prevention measures against COVID-19 is expected to bring down daily infection numbers, but reiterated that the most important factor remains public cooperation.

 

In a press announcement by the Ministry of Public Health, Director-General of the DDC Dr. Opas Karnkawinpong said that based on statistical assessments of actual patient and fatality numbers following the elevation of preventative measures, an extension of the regulations would bring down daily infection rates as long as they were maintained in tandem with proactive searches for infections and vaccination of risk groups such as senior citizens, the chronically ill and pregnant women, an effort currently being taken by the Ministry of Public Health.

 

He added that with strong cooperation from the public, the daily contraction rate could drop by 20 percent in one month’s time to about 30,000 people a day, from the present number in excess of 40,000 people. The peak of infections is expected to occur in October but should be lessened by up to 25 percent if current measures are maintained and good cooperation is provided. With no regulations, the fatality rate could rise to over 500 people a day.

 

Permanent Secretary for Public Health Dr. Kiattiphum Wongrajit, reported today that with 100,000 hospital beds originally available nationwide, another 175,000 have now been set up for COVID-19 patients in particular. In Bangkok, 90 percent of provided beds have already been taken while 80 percent of beds in the provinces are occupied. Due to the ministry being unable at this time to add more beds, it has decided to adapt its approach and has introduced home and community isolation so that only severe patients are admitted to hospital. CCRT teams have also been dispatched to seek out infections.

 

Deputy Permanent Secretary for Public Health Dr. Yongyos Thammawuthi indicated that between August 4 and 10, the office would send officers into Bangkok to carry out mass Antigen Test Kit tests, and to administer vaccines to healthy people at home. Meanwhile, all public health systems are to be brought together to ensure the sick may readily access care and medicine.

 

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[Snuller21]

but reiterated that the most important factor remains public cooperation.???? No. The MOST important is to give vaccine to everybody living in Thailand, and not the Sinovac, which is NO good for Delta variant.

[Rookiescot]

Isolation for EVERYONE with covid in hospital facilities was a worthy goal when the virus was under control.

However with this current wave then isolation at home is the only option for those with mild/no symptoms. 

It does of course need to be strictly enforced and things like food delivery and daily checks on those living alone should be organised.

[SooKee]

Not sure I'm reading the article right but the news reports are of approx 18,000 infections a day yet he says the 'the present number in excess of 40,000 people'?  Did he drop a clanger?  Maybe it's a translation issue and he meant anticipated 40,000.

Edited August 1, 2021 by SooKee

[dinsdale]

7 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

He added that with strong cooperation from the public, the daily contraction rate could drop by 20 percent in one month’s time to about 30,000 people a day, from the present number in excess of 40,000 people. The peak of infections is expected to occur in October but should be lessened by up to 25 percent if current measures are maintained and good cooperation is provided. With no regulations, the fatality rate could rise to over 500 people a day.

Am I missing something here? The present daily contraction rate is in excess of 40,000? Is this just another misunderstanding?

[mtls2005]

My interpretation is that he is saying that, even with controls/mitigation/vaccination, the current accepted best-case projections are that the wave WILL rise to 40,000 per day in October.

 

And if the current mitigation efforts "work", that peak will recede from October. Have faith, and pray.

 

Unstated is "what if these efforts don't work as planned"?

 

But it is confusing.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2021 by mtls2005

[dinsdale]

Just now, mtls2005 said:

My interpretation is that he is saying that, even with controls/mitigation/vaccination, the current accepted best-case projections are that the wave WILL rise to 40,000 per day in October.

 

And if the current mitigation efforts "work", that peak will recede from October. Have faith, and pray.

 

Unstated is "what if these efforts don't work as planned"?

 

 

 

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

He added that with strong cooperation from the public, the daily contraction rate could drop by 20 percent in one month’s time to about 30,000 people a day, from the present number in excess of 40,000 people.

He is saying in one months time it could drop to 30,000 from the current 40,000. From 40k now to 30K then. I can't see any other way of reading this.

[jerrymahoney]

20 minutes ago, Snuller21 said:

but reiterated that the most important factor remains public cooperation.???? No. The MOST important is to give vaccine to everybody living in Thailand, and not the Sinovac, which is NO good for Delta variant.

The new vaccine appointment method will be via booking in advance or “pre-registration” with the following hospitals.

As of today, the AstraZeneca and Sinovac vaccines are available.

[mtls2005]

Just now, dinsdale said:

From 40k now to 30K then. I can't see any other way of reading this.

 

Except that the current case rate is ~ 19,000 (yesterday, today it's down a bit)

 

And I assume that he knows the current and projected rates.

 

But I did say that was "my interpretation".

 

 

[mtls2005]

2 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

The new vaccine appointment method will be via booking in advance or “pre-registration” with the following hospitals.

As of today, the AstraZeneca and Sinovac vaccines are available.

 

Old, may stay current???      https://www.thailandintervac.com/

 

New     https://expatvac.consular.go.th/

 

 

[dinsdale]

Just now, mtls2005 said:

 

Except that the current case rate is ~ 19,000 (yesterday, today it's down a bit)

 

And I assume that he knows the current and projected rates.

 

But I did say that was "my interpretation".

 

 

Yes this is the point. Why say 40K? Thing is as most of us know the numbers are under reported and 40k would be closer to the mark and this would not include asymtomatic the number of which is probably massive.

[herfiehandbag]

He may be confident.

 

A lot (including many well informed) are not.

[jerrymahoney]

5 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Old, may stay current???      https://www.thailandintervac.com/

 

New     https://expatvac.consular.go.th/

 

 

So think this is registration for Moderna or Pfizer?

[mtls2005]

3 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

So think this is registration for Moderna or Pfizer?

Neither.

 

AZ or Sinovac.

 

 

[lucky2008]

The more the virus circulates, the more it will change.

Delta will not be the last variant we'll see here. 

The next “variants of interest” category — suspected of being more transmissible or vaccine resistant — includes Eta, Iota, Kappa and Lambda. 

The Greek alphabet may be insufficient to cover them all. 

[SooKee]

12 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Except that the current case rate is ~ 19,000 (yesterday, today it's down a bit)

 

And I assume that he knows the current and projected rates.

 

But I did say that was "my interpretation".

 

 

Or.......he knows what the real rate is and slipped up.

[ThailandRyan]

38 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

He added that with strong cooperation from the public, the daily contraction rate could drop by 20 percent in one month’s time to about 30,000 people a day, from the present number in excess of 40,000 people. The peak of infections is expected to occur in October but should be lessened by up to 25 percent if current measures are maintained and good cooperation is provided. With no regulations, the fatality rate could rise to over 500 people a day.

Well if yesterday shows us anything in Bangkok I have a hard time in believing this statement, as well as the numbers he states because we have not seen those numbers yet, well listed at least, so whose playing number games.  As I posted in a now closed OP I have been noticing the traffic and people on the streets here in Bangkok actually increasing the last part of this week.  Yesterday (Saturday), it seemed like it was a weekday with the roadways busy, the vendors busy, and it appeared as if the office buildings were open for the employees to come in and work.  Now maybe that was because of the 3 days at the beginning of the week (2 being holidays and then Tuesday not", so maybe those folks that took Tuesday off swapped it for working Saturday.  This morning, Sunday, the roads are fairly empty, but the large Construction sites such as The One Bangkok and the others around us are running full tilt.  The only true difference I have been noticing is that the Parks are closed thus those that would run are on the roads, and walking on the sidewalks, the Malls are closed but still have the markets downstairs open as well as pharmacies and the cell phone sellers are still open as well.  Walked in the backside of Central Silom to drop down the escalator to tops and it appeared they were doing some business even though the Central Mall was closed from the front and dark.  Lots of hidden work going on, massage shops dark, but still having folks inside, salons still working.  Did not see the normal checkpoints they set up the first few days either.  Looks like people are fed up, and thus the spread here in BKK will continue as the side Sois are packed with folks buying from the vendors and shops daily, with the 7-11 near us packed last night with a few groups of folks in the parking lot drinking and listening to music.  

[mtls2005]

6 minutes ago, SooKee said:

Or.......he knows what the real rate is and slipped up.

Well, I guess anything is possible if you believe.

 

 

 

 

[smedly]

39 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

The Department of Disease Control (DDC) says that further use of elevated prevention measures against COVID-19 is expected to bring down daily infection numbers

if they didn't make statements like this then they wouldn't lose face if it doesn't happen 

 

The statement should have looked something like this

 

The Department of Disease Control (DDC) says that the further use of elevated prevention measures against COVID-19 was an attempt to reduce the rising numbers of infection across the country, it is what we must do until we have deployed enough effective vaccines, these measures require the continued cooperation of the public, we will publish accurate data on infection spread accross the country so that the public are well informed of the situation.

 

 

[2long]

Is this the same Anutin who said (among many other things) that there would be no vaccination delays starting in June, and that from August they'd be administering 1 million doses per day? And that farang don't shower and shouldn't be trusted?

If it IS the same guy, then why are we bothering to listen to the latest verbal diarrhoea to spout out of his gob?

[DrJack54]

So soft lockdown extended for how long? Announced later today??

2 weeks at a time seems to be the modus operandi.

[SooKee]

51 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Well, I guess anything is possible if you believe.

 

 

 

 

It's not about having to 'believe' because of some warped interpretation.  It's determining what he said from the specific words that the article quotes him saying.  'Present number in excess of 40,000' means 40,000+ now, not a figure anticipated at some time in the future.  If it's an anticipated figure why use the term 'present'.  The only 'if you believe' scenario is interpreting the article to mean something other than what he actually said.

Edited August 1, 2021 by SooKee

[Rampant Rabbit]

Im Confident, VERY  confident, that he's an ass.

[Rampant Rabbit]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

He added that with strong cooperation from the public, the daily contraction rate could drop by 20 percent in one month’s time to about 30,000 people a day, from the present number in excess of 40,000 people.

Is  that and admission?

[watthong]

1 hour ago, Snuller21 said:

not the Sinovac, which is NO good for Delta variant.

Dis-information alert!

(Getting really tiring swatting off these (f)lies.) 
 

[Guderian]

1 hour ago, SooKee said:

Not sure I'm reading the article right but the news reports are of approx 18,000 infections a day yet he says the 'the present number in excess of 40,000 people'?  Did he drop a clanger?  Maybe it's a translation issue and he meant anticipated 40,000.

Does anybody honestly believe that the current rate of new infections is much lower than 40,000? At least the guy is being honest, though his bosses may be none too pleased about it.

 

1 hour ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

The peak of infections is expected to occur in October

Blimey, yesterday it was September when we would reach the peak, and now it’s already gone back a  month! Never mind, I’m sure the cretin-in-chief will soon pop up like a Spitting Image puppet, assuring us that his plans to reopen to foreign tourists in mid-October will never be derailed.

[jerrymahoney]

13 minutes ago, watthong said:

1 hour ago, Snuller21 said:

not the Sinovac, which is NO good for Delta variant.

Dis-information alert!

(Getting really tiring swatting off these (f)lies.) 
 

The siren song of the virologist wanna-be.

[peterpaintpot]

My word! Everyday I read the The Thailand Live post to keep up to date with Thai news. Now I am unable to differentiate between the Thai politicians and their so called experts. I have to pinch myself to make sure I am not dreaming that I have been trapped in a Christmas Pantomime at the Theatre Royal at Windsor.

 

So I am shouting out to the Minister of Health, "Oh no it's not!!".  The Answer is Vaccination, Vaccination and more Vaccination.