24 minutes ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Whats the definition of a covid19 recovery? Negative followup test?  Symptoms completely resolved ? 

Your guess is as good as mine. Wish we had a definitive answer from MOPH.

9 minutes ago, Scrotobike said:

Got it! Hope I did not offend you.

 

But I am tired of the government spin trying to deflect from the mess Thailand is getting itself into. The problem with spin (or white lies?) is the spinner starts to believe their own spin.

I could be wrong, but I think the headline here is written by Aseannow Admin?  I agree about government spin though.  I guess 'The Thick Of It' isn't shown in Thailand!

25 minutes ago, nkg said:

 

People who are vaccinated? People who are scared of their own shadow won't be going to any foreign countries for years, so let's forget about them.

Care to explain the double entendre?

10 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Most cases today are again in #Bangkok (4,552), followed by Samut Sakhon (1,683), Samut Prakan (1,388), Chonburi (1,371), Nonthaburi (691), Ayutthaya (580), Pathum Thani (540), and Chachoengsao (467) * Numbers include inmates #COVID19 #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1425278167938260993

 

Once again those who are quick to pull the trigger have been shown to be wrong. BKK is going up not down and may very well cross the 5000 mark. I wonder how many antigen positives there areor is that the 3,417. This would make BKK almost 8,000. Testing is heading south which is interesting as numbers are heading north. 6,748 tests in a day is just dismal in a population of around 8 million. Numbers obviously being under-reported. Keep numbers down by keeping testing down.

9 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Most cases today are again in #Bangkok (4,552), followed by Samut Sakhon (1,683), Samut Prakan (1,388), Chonburi (1,371), Nonthaburi (691), Ayutthaya (580), Pathum Thani (540), and Chachoengsao (467) * Numbers include inmates #COVID19 #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1425278167938260993

 

There is the answer to one of my questions. Seems like the spin on cases Declining was lime a OP months ago saying that the wave had peaked.  Looks like we need to buckle up on Bangkok as the cases are growing still, even with the ATK rapid tests. That means many more are needing hospital treatment instead of home isolation.

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

21k new cases does indicate to me at least, that the lower cases the past few days were testing related.  Additionally, my view on those recoveries listed, are that they are not just those recovered but those who have also been released to go home with medication to finish of the healing of the disease infection, and that they now only have minor symptoms left that can be self treated.  This release of those sent home to isolate will make room for those needing beds and shows just how many beds are needed for more serious cases.  Of course this is my view and might not be others.  I hope that the vaccine program picks up with the newest promised donation of 2.5 million doses of Pfizer from the US as well.  I have not seen any data indicating the AZ doses from SB in the last week or so, only a story about doctors asking that the dispensing of that vaccine to other countries be ceased as they fear many more cases to come in the next few months.  Do they know something we do not?

 

Waiting also to see if the upward trend we saw in BKK yesterday continues upward, or if it was as one posters likes to say, an Artifact.  I hope that those who have tested positive  with the ATK rapid tests at home or at a facility are getting the treatment the government promised.  Seems that there are many of these folks just here in BKK.

They have done that with my brother in law sent him home after 10 days in hospital, with a load of medication he live alone so easy to isolate

56 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I suspect we will never know how many Antigen tests are performed at home, and never reported.

 

As I predicted a week ago, the number of Hospital Positives has dropped.

This in the main will be due to the number of ATK tests that will be performed at Home by people who suspect they may be Infected with Covid.

Many of these will never be reported when positive, as the people will just take a Paracetamol or two, and refrain from going outside the Home a little ( or not )

All this will do is to transmit the Virus around Communities, as Home Isolation will not work, and the Authorities will not have any input into whether those tested are positive or not.

Pharmacies should have to declare who they sell the tests too

Ok, not all will be positive tests when taken, but the Authorities will know who is potentially positive. 

Or maybe they dont want to know,

I get released today from a covid hospitel at noon after testing positive for covid on my 2nd day in ASQ. I’ve been here 2 weeks today.

4 minutes ago, LiamB80 said:

I get released today from a covid hospitel at noon after testing positive for covid on my 2nd day in ASQ. I’ve been here 2 weeks today.

What are the conditions like?

3 square a day?

Showers, toilets, snacks........etc 

So is it a hotel similar to staying ASQ?

5 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

They have done that with my brother in law sent him home after 10 days in hospital, with a load of medication he live alone so easy to isolate

Would you call him fully recovered? I guess if he has to isolate he isn't. A load of medication as anyone who has been to a doctor here knows is the norm. If he isn't fully recoverd then we know why release numbers are so high. Not fully recovered but released from medical care but classified as recovered. Just more subterfuge.

Just now, DrJack54 said:

What are the conditions like?

3 square a day?

Showers, toilets, snacks........etc 

It’s a small hotel room. Everyone here has covid, I’ve only seen one other foreigner. We get 3 meals a day which are usually cold when they arrive, have a shower in the room and a balcony. No extra amenities at all. We only have water to drink and no deliveries. It was a rough 2 weeks. 

3 minutes ago, LiamB80 said:

It’s a small hotel room. Everyone here has covid, I’ve only seen one other foreigner. We get 3 meals a day which are usually cold when they arrive, have a shower in the room and a balcony. No extra amenities at all. We only have water to drink and no deliveries. It was a rough 2 weeks. 

Cost?

6 minutes ago, LiamB80 said:

It’s a small hotel room. Everyone here has covid, I’ve only seen one other foreigner. We get 3 meals a day which are usually cold when they arrive, have a shower in the room and a balcony. No extra amenities at all. We only have water to drink and no deliveries. It was a rough 2 weeks. 

Sounds horrible. 

So today after release your free so to speak. What's the plan.....just grab a hotel somewhere? 

Obviously your aware of the restrictions currently in place.

You can travel inter province as those restrictions are flexible.

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Cost?

My insurance covered it. I had AXA insurance company.

1 hour ago, nkg said:

 

People who are vaccinated? People who are scared of their own shadow won't be going to any foreign countries for years, so let's forget about them.

Yes people who are fully vaccinated will be more than happy to holiday here in the high season once it opens up, such as those from the UK where Thailand still sits in the amber zone so no quarantine on return. The fact that it was not upgraded to red will reassure many it’s safe to come. 

 

Not everyone lives in fear thankfully. 

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

Sounds horrible. 

So today after release your free so to speak. What's the plan.....just grab a hotel somewhere? 

Obviously your aware of the restrictions currently in place.

You can travel inter province as those restrictions are not strict, it would seem.

It was horrible, it’s not a good environment for recovering from covid either. Today is my 1st day of freedom, I’m gonna get a coffee as soon as I get out then I check into a hotel for a few days to decompress then I can finally start my Thailand trip. I can’t believe this happened to me. It was an experience .

5 minutes ago, LiamB80 said:

My insurance covered it. I had AXA insurance company.

Even though you had no symptoms.

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Nice to see the more positive headline.

Stand by to be ridiculed for being cheerful......... ????

4 minutes ago, LiamB80 said:

I can finally start my Thailand trip.

Don't know what your 'Thailand trip' involves.......however check places out prior to travel as many things are closed and I don't just mean bars and eateries.

 

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Even though you had no symptoms.

Yes, I got my discharge papers already. Just waiting for noon to officially leave this place.

5 minutes ago, LiamB80 said:

It was horrible, it’s not a good environment for recovering from covid either. Today is my 1st day of freedom, I’m gonna get a coffee as soon as I get out then I check into a hotel for a few days to decompress then I can finally start my Thailand trip. I can’t believe this happened to me. It was an experience .

What were the circumstances around your positive test? From where and what transport ?

17 minutes ago, LiamB80 said:

It’s a small hotel room. Everyone here has covid, I’ve only seen one other foreigner. We get 3 meals a day which are usually cold when they arrive, have a shower in the room and a balcony. No extra amenities at all. We only have water to drink and no deliveries. It was a rough 2 weeks. 

good to hear you made it through the infection.  alot of the returnees (including myself) were very worried about this potential outcome.  sorry you got the bad draw.  good luck from here on out !!

COVID recoveries outnumber new cases in Thailand for second day running

 

 

Thats ok then! nothing to see here, open some more quicksand areas all tourists welcome, continue with the  absolute minimum possible testing and daily statements about ordering vaccines, dont worry about covid deaths.... that frees up hospital beds.

 

Numbers will go down and back to normal well done Junta and the crew of retards at the helm.

7 minutes ago, sungod said:

Stand by to be ridiculed for being cheerful......... ????

Thre was no ridicule there, just a little humour, even though people accuse this forum of all doom and gloom

12 minutes ago, LiamB80 said:

It was horrible, it’s not a good environment for recovering from covid either. Today is my 1st day of freedom, I’m gonna get a coffee as soon as I get out then I check into a hotel for a few days to decompress then I can finally start my Thailand trip. I can’t believe this happened to me. It was an experience .

Good that’s all over. Now look forward to the rest of your trip here. Plenty to look forward to.  
 

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13 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Yes people who are fully vaccinated will be more than happy to holiday here in the high season once it opens up, such as those from the UK where Thailand still sits in the amber zone so no quarantine on return. The face that it was not upgraded to red will reassure many it’s safe to come. 

 

Not everyone lives in fear thankfully. 

Did you not see the USA is warning it's citizens even those fully vaccinated about travel to Thailand.

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Thre was no ridicule there, just a little humour, even though people accuse this forum of all doom and gloom

When you choose to leave out this positive news from your post you'd forgive people to think this way.

3 minutes ago, morrobay said:

What were the circumstances around your positive test? From where and what transport ?

I believe I contracted covid on the airplane or at the airports. I flew from Tampa to Chicago to Frankfurt Germany to BKK. The airports were extremely packed and every seat on the flights were taken. I knew I had covid the day I arrived. I had a temperature and a headache with bloodshot eyes. You can feel it and there’s no doubt. I tested positive on day 2 when they gave me a pcr test in ASQ. They then moved me from ASQ to what they call a hospitel which is a hotel acting as a hospital.

i know my suggestions will be immediately rejected by most.  but here it goes.  not long ago i did a comparison btwn the peak in india and what the peak might be in thailand.  we all know the official numbers for both countries are not perfect but most likely give a general idea on the direction of up or down.  india's peak was roughly 400,000 cases/day (7 day daily avg) and 4,000 deaths.  divide by 20 and that put thailand at 20,000 and 200.  again, it isn't a perfect analysis, far from it, but it does give you some idea.  as an example, we probably won't see 1,000 deaths in a day (using the 7 day daily avg).  will we see 500 ?  probably not.  300 ?  i wouldn't bet against that one.  my bet/guess is we are getting close to the peak of this wave.  coming back down won't feel great with alot more deaths to register.  but hopefully we are almost halfway through and the vaccines will help fight the next wave.

Today was Thailand's only third time above 21,000 cases, and as predicted, the day's case count rose again after the not uncommon downturn period over the weekend that had daily cases in the 19,000s. So much for some folks' downward trend.

 

I think the more interesting question is should we, and the government, be adding the 2,081 new antigen test positives for the day to the 21,038 regular positive cases? Both today, and on an ongoing basis moving forward.

 

Has it ever been explained if all of those ATK positives are in fact followed up with regular RT-PCR tests, or do they just vanish into the night, statistically speaking, like the Phetchabun chicken plant cases?