Money Grabbing Veterinary Surgeons.

[fredscats]

5 minutes ago, In Full Agreement said:

 

 

Possible to bury pet at Wat.    You have to dig the hole yourself.

Cats come into my garden usually get killed by my dogs,stupid cats know they are there,but..  Tried burying but ground too hard,put in plastic bag into roadside bin    gawd they smell after a bit

[In Full Agreement]

5 minutes ago, fredscats said:

Cats come into my garden usually get killed by my dogs,stupid cats know they are there,but..  Tried burying but ground too hard,put in plastic bag into roadside bin    gawd they smell after a bit

 

Fred your body would smell as well "after a bit".

[Neeranam]

48 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said:

That is an totally irresponsible attitude and your post should be deleted. 

Deleted by whom, and why?

[fishtank]

2 hours ago, possum1931 said:

Good post Rob, but I still think money is part of it.

Money is all of it.

Pure greed and lack of compassion for the poor animal involved.

Shameful.

Caring Vets are out there if you look.

[IvorBiggun2]

17 minutes ago, fishtank said:

Caring Vets are out there if you look.

Thailand's a big country. Where do we start? I live NE.

[Doctor Tom]

37 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Deleted by whom, and why?

By you.  If you are not a vet, or at a push a medical doctor, you have no idea how to put down a sick animal painlessly and effectively, unless you blast it with a shotgun. 

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

The Vets were refusing to euthanise long before this Covid hit.

But the Siamese did have the death penalty a good while back.

They still have

[jak2002003]

2 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

It's a Buddhist thing.

 

 

So how come that rule does not concern the people working on farms and in slaughter houses?

 

How come all my neighbours think it's fine to go out and break the neck of one of their chickens to cook for dinner,?

 

How come I see all those people everyday fishing in the clong or using fish traps in the river?  Or the people buying poison and glue traps to kill nice and rats?

 

Any why is everyone eating meat every day?

 

 

 

 

Edited August 14, 2021 by jak2002003

[jvs]

3 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

So how come that rule does not concern the people working on farms and in slaughter houses?

 

How come all my neighbours think it's fine to go out and break the neck of one of their chickens to cook for dinner,?

 

How come I see all those people everyday fishing in the clog or using fish traps in the river?  Or the people buying poison and glue traps to kill nice and rats?

 

Any why is everyone eating meat every day?

 

 

 

 

It is because people are hypocrites,even vegans are in the same ship imo.

People who eat meat should be willing to kill and butcher the meat they eat.

I was born and raised on a farm and i have killed and dressed many animals,pigs,cows,goats,countless chickens and other species.

All thru the ages people have had to do this in order to survive.

Vets who do eat meat and are not willing to end the suffering of an animal?

don't make me laugh.

[KannikaP]

18 minutes ago, jvs said:

People who eat meat should be willing to kill and butcher the meat they eat.

Have a look at Kill It, Cook It , Eat It on You Tube.

[IvorBiggun2]

29 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

So how come that rule does not concern the people working on farms and in slaughter houses?

 

How come all my neighbours think it's fine to go out and break the neck of one of their chickens to cook for dinner,?

 

How come I see all those people everyday fishing in the clong or using fish traps in the river?  Or the people buying poison and glue traps to kill nice and rats?

 

Any why is everyone eating meat every day?

You obviously don't live in Thailand or understand 'The Five Precepts'?

[Neeranam]

39 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said:

By you.  If you are not a vet, or at a push a medical doctor, you have no idea how to put down a sick animal painlessly and effectively, unless you blast it with a shotgun. 

<deleted>. You don't need a medical degree to know how to do this. 

[NoshowJones]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

What is unethical of putting down an suffering animal ? For them its religion. I might not agree with it but that is how they see it. 

I think it is a little to do with religion, but being used as an excuse through their greed for money, and little thought for the animals or their owners.

[KannikaP]

2 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

You obviously don't live in Thailand or understand 'The Five Precepts'?

I DO live in Thailand, but DO NOT understand these 5 Precepts. What are they please?

No stealing, adultery, killing animals, drugs/booze and ??????????????. 

Us Them Christians had TEN. 55555

Edited August 14, 2021 by KannikaP

[jak2002003]

3 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

You obviously don't live in Thailand or understand 'The Five Precepts'?

I live in Thailand 14 years. 

 

I am not religious...so no idea about the 5 precepts.

 

Are you saying the 5 precepts say its fine to let terminally ill pet animals suffer in pain for weeks while charging their heartbroken loving owners large sums of money saying it's wrong to kill it because of their religion, BUT the same people can then go home and kill a few fish and a chicken to cook for dinner?

 

Or they go and buy meat from the market knowing full well the factory farmed animals has been reared in hell like conditions before being horrifically slaughtered?

 

I can't believe the religion teaches that is right. I suspect the vets are deliberately using it as an excuse to make more money from the suffering from pets and their owners. 

[Doctor Tom]

12 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

I think it is a little to do with religion, but being used as an excuse through their greed for money, and little thought for the animals or their owners.

Well said and dead on.  vets here are shirking their clear responsibilities, that is to avoid undue and avoidable pain and distress in animals. It's pathetic, as they hide behind the religious argument, which has no validity in this context.   

[CharlieH]

Off topic posts and responses removed.

The topic is about Vets, NOT euthanasia  for people.

[BritManToo]

Two of my rabbits were sick a couple of weeks back.

1) New baby white had ear mites ............ total 300bht for the consultation and treatment.

Nearly cured now, 10 days later, ears looking good again.

2) Medium Chinchilla got the runs, 3 days of 2x injections @ 300bht (total 950bht).

Poops nearly back to normal now, happy rabbit eating normally.

 

Your 1,000s baht bills would have given me extreme sticker shock.

[Doctor Tom]

Those of us with animals who we love, and would hate to see suffer at the end of their life, or with serious and incurable illnesses, need to keep the contact details of local vets that will put down a sick animal, that is, vets that do their duty.  I have heard say of two in Pattaya that do so and another who will provide a syringe and drug, with instructions.  At this stage with my young dogs, I haven't followed this up, but I think reading this post that I will do so. If anyone has such information for the Pattaya area, perhaps you would be good enough to PM me. 

[IvorBiggun2]

34 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said:

vets here are shirking their clear responsibilities, that is to avoid undue and avoidable pain and distress in animals.

Their hands are tied by their religion.

 

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 Some Buddhists just like the Thai Buddhists allow their pet suffer to their last breath no matter how severe the pain is due to teachings which include 'to cut short an animal's suffering prevents them from extinguishing their karma leading to poor rebirth'.

 

[Doctor Tom]

2 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Their hands are tied by their religion.

No they are not; they are tied by their ignorance of their own religious teachings.  They need to read more of what The Buddha had to say, or is recorded as saying, before coming up with ridiculous, indefensible reasons to not do their duty. 

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Right, I don't think anyone answered my question, apart from a troll. 

 

Why don't you put down a pet by yourself? It is easy to give an injection to die painlessly. 

I would if I had to. But obviously getting hold of the correct medicine would be difficult, but not impossible. 

The same as I would do for myself if I ever got into that situation.

Edited August 14, 2021 by KannikaP

[thaitom]

7 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Moved to Pets n Vets forum.

Ha... yeah , I was surprised also that there is a pet forum.

 

[fredscats]

2 to mind, South Pattaya Rd   about 200 yards on left turning from Suk highway  Pattaya Animal hospital     Good vet, tells it  as it is   0931361605 another Naklua or north Pattaya animal hospital  about 3 k from Dolphin roundabout  on left side, takes them 4 or 5 days to PTS

 

I really like the first vet, been with him a long time  does animal charity too, but will not hesitate to PTS if no hope, does it for me for 500  guess others 1500

 

Copied this from thread of years ago  The first one closed down last year moved to na Jomtien,prob number as well,but can be traced using it   Dr Death I called him,any soi mutt I too ill to recover PTS instantly  500 baht...if u are interested PM me ill see if I can contact again      the second vet is superb  cheapish too

 

There is a vet too  up by the lake  animal charity place  think the good doctor  Dr death does work there too

Edited August 14, 2021 by fredscats

[fredscats]

5 hours ago, Doctor Tom said:

You need to read the post that I was responding to. Yes that does need to happen, scientifically, by a trained person, not just by someone who THINKS they know how to do it painlessly and with sensitively.  

The averageJoe will never hit the vein of a dog  virt impossible,  tried dozens of times training by Dr Death   even he took years to hit the spot

[CharlieH]

Off topic removed.

[jak2002003]

3 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Their hands are tied by their religion.

 

 

Not true at all.

 

If that were true there would be not animal products or meat in Thailand.

 

The vets are not part of a temple. They are not monks. They are vets and need to do their job, and if their personal religious beliefs won't allow them to end an animals suffering they need to look for a different career path. 

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, possum1931 said:

It was obvious the cat was not going to recover and the vet was just prolonging the cats life.

Is it religion that stops vets from putting animals to sleep

...or perhaps the vet was just doing what he was asked to do?   Did she ask him to put it down?  

Edited August 14, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[CharlieH]

PLEASE do not post methods or "how to" end an animals life.

 

[DBath]

9 hours ago, robblok said:

Whatever you think is irrelevant right now, because most Thai vets are like this. So its more likely to be religion related then anything else. I have had the same thing with our dogs. If you look into topics of vets putting animals down there are very few that are willing to do so.

 

So its clearly a religion thing, i feel they should put animals down but that is my western view. My dog might have to be put down and we found a vet willing to do so through friends. But its hard. I really think its not a money thing at all. 

It may or may not be a money thing, how can one really know? This scenario plays well into the hands of scammers - if this were another country it would be obvious, but it's Thailand.

 

Some religions need fixing, IMO. I believe in God, but I also believe most humans are corruptible when it comes to money and I am never quick to trust ANYONE.