Do you object to being asked if you’ve been vaccinated?

[Captain Monday]

I don't mind being asked but the honour system doesn't work. Too many liars,

A digital vaccine+ health passport app need to be utilized and enforced to access most public spaces.

 

 

[Yellowtail]

14 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The Cardinal deserves it because he was in a position of authority and commanded the allegiance of a large number of Catholics. And he used that position and the respect it commands to actively campaign against vaccination and support absurd theories.

Aren't Christians just a bunch of fools that believe in fairly tails? I assume the more of them that get it the better. 

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Aren't Christians just a bunch of fools that believe in fairly tails? I assume the more of them that get it the better. 

So you're claiming that because people may believe in all sorts of unproveable things, that they deserved to be punished with a serious disease? And you've got problems with my take on Burke?

[pomchop]

So if you asked a "friend" if they have HIV and they refused to answer would you still want to do the deed? If a "friend" asked you if you have HIV would you refuse to answer or lie . I think not.  Both are deadly viruses.

[KannikaP]

8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Aren't Christians just a bunch of fools

I am a Christian, so you are calling me a fool, which is against the forum rules to insult another member.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

I wonder how many of the people that claim they don't mind bein asked have actually been asked? 

 

A better question would be who supports mandates that compel people be vaccinated? Surly everyone on the lest does, but about non-leftists?  

I was asked twice today.

 

I don’t think people should be compelled to be vaccinated, I do however think insurance companies should charge the unvaccinated according to the increased risk they present.

[Yellowtail]

9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

So you're claiming that because people may believe in all sorts of unproveable things, that they deserved to be punished with a serious disease? And you've got problems with my take on Burke?

I don't have a problem with your take on Burke, I think he deserves to die, you only think he deserves to get really sick and have a good chance of dying. 

[pomchop]

6 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

I am a Christian, so you are calling me a fool, which is against the forum rules to insult another member.

He did not call you a fool.  He asked a question.

[Yellowtail]

6 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

I am a Christian, so you are calling me a fool, which is against the forum rules to insult another member.

I was asking a question, was that not clear? 

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I don't have a problem with your take on Burke, I think he deserves to die, you only think he deserves to get really sick and have a good chance of dying. 

Actually, I hope he recovers and becomes an object of ridicule.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I was asked twice today.

 

I don’t think people should be compelled to be vaccinated, I do however think insurance companies should charge the unvaccinated according to the increased risk they present.

Asked by who? 

 

I agree that insurance companies should charge extra for additional risk. 

[Yellowtail]

Just now, placeholder said:

Actually, I hope he recovers and becomes an object of ridicule.

Is he not already an object of ridicule?

 

So much for inclusion and compassion eh? 

[Chomper Higgot]

46 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You have a truly bizarre idea of what constitutes supporting government mandates.  Just because more people are getting vaccinated does not mean more people support the government mandating people be vaccinated. I got my first shot Tuesday and I'm still against the government compelling people be vaccinated. 

 

If the Trump vaccines are so effective, what does everyone still have to wear masks and social distance? 

What’s this nonsense about ‘Trump vaccines’, there’s no such thing.

 

On the point about masks, they are protecting the people who are not vaccinated and reducing the residual risk amongst those that are.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Asked by who? 

 

I agree that insurance companies should charge extra for additional risk. 

1.  A complete stranger.

2. A long time friend who I was very pleased to meet today.

[ripstanley]

I would love to say I have but living in the north and being unable to get a jab because I am a Farang I have to say no if asked.

[sungod]

If the guy asking is from the 'flat earth society', I say no. Its just not worth the effort arguing........

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Is he not already an object of ridicule?

 

And l hope he survives and continues to be one. Of course, if he repents of this lunatic beliefs regarding Covid, I'll give him a pass. As I believe Jesus himself once said after he forgave someone or other, "Go and sin no more."

[Yellowtail]

31 minutes ago, pomchop said:

So if you asked a "friend" if they have HIV and they refused to answer would you still want to do the deed? If a "friend" asked you if you have HIV would you refuse to answer or lie . I think not.  Both are deadly viruses.

I would not ask my friends if they have HIV. 

[Yellowtail]

21 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What’s this nonsense about ‘Trump vaccines’, there’s no such thing.

 

On the point about masks, they are protecting the people who are not vaccinated and reducing the residual risk amongst those that are.

 

Sorry, the vaccines developed under the Trump administrations program. 

 

So why not make masks mandatory forever? 

[Yellowtail]

22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

1.  A complete stranger.

2. A long time friend who I was very pleased to meet today.

That's hilarious. 

[placeholder]

14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I would not ask my friends if they have HIV. 

Are you planning on having unprotected sex with them?

[nrasmussen]

1 hour ago, Captain Monday said:

I don't mind being asked but the honour system doesn't work. Too many liars,

A digital vaccine+ health passport app need to be utilized and enforced to access most public spaces.

 

 

Here is how that works in my home country: https://en.coronasmitte.dk/corona-passport

[Chomper Higgot]

13 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Sorry, the vaccines developed under the Trump administrations program. 

 

So why not make masks mandatory forever? 

Can you name these vaccines you referred to and identify which are available in Thailand.

 

What’s this nonsense about mandatory masks for ever? I’ve never heard such s thing suggested.

[Chomper Higgot]

19 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I would not ask my friends if they have HIV. 

You might if you were about to share a means of transmitting the virus with them.

[Captain Monday]

1 minute ago, nrasmussen said:

Here is how that works in my home country: https://en.coronasmitte.dk/corona-passport

Nice to be a citizen of a rational country.

 

In America we have state governors who prohibit mask mandate let alone vaccines.

The worst having been somewhat illegally jabbed three times already, the Texas Governor, gets a positive test , then demands and gets monoclonal antibodies even though he is asymptomatic. 

 

He has spent the lasthow many days spreading covid-19 around, maskless of course

 

Texas Governor Abbott. He  blames the pandemic on immigrants.

[pomchop]

1 minute ago, Captain Monday said:

Nice to be a citizen of a rational country.

 

In America we have state governors who prohibit mask mandate let alone vaccines.

The worst having been somewhat illegally jabbed three times already, the Texas Governor, gets a positive test , then demands and gets monoclonal antibodies even though he is asymptomatic. 

 

He has spent the lasthow many days spreading covid-19 around, maskless of course

 

Texas Governor Abbott. He  blames the pandemic on immigrants.

and yet people continue to support these politicians and cheer their anti vax anti mask <deleted> as if it is a patriotic thing to refuse to at least attempt to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem....reminds me too much of jim jones and the kool aide cult...keep drinking it long enough and you may well end up dead.

[orchis]

i dont mind

[codemonkey]

20 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

Nice to be a citizen of a rational country.

 

In America we have state governors who prohibit mask mandate let alone vaccines.

The worst having been somewhat illegally jabbed three times already, the Texas Governor, gets a positive test , then demands and gets monoclonal antibodies even though he is asymptomatic. 

 

He has spent the lasthow many days spreading covid-19 around, maskless of course

 

Texas Governor Abbott. He  blames the pandemic on immigrants.

Yeah, Cuomo is another example, but he's done now.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/10/its-good-cuomos-gone-but-dont-forget-the-nursing-home-scandal/

[55Jay]

No, don't mind and would answer "No, not yet". 

[sbf]

I tell the truth which is I want the vaccination as soon as I can get it. I am in the 60+ age group but in reasonable health with no underlying health issues. I seldom have the chance to mix with other expats, so almost entirely I am talking with Thai's about this matter. When I detail my quest to be vaccinated and the impediments I have come up against ( the latest being province of domicile for immigration purposes being different from province I am locked down in - as in 1600km apart).

 

I explain that all Thai nationals living in my home country of my age group whether permanent residents, long or short term visa holders or even overstayers / illegal immigrants have been able to be vaccinated with a good quality vaccine for free for many months if they wish it. I also explain that I am very much hoping to receive a vaccine which would enable me to travel abroad as I have three grown children dispersed around the globe and that I really worry about being in the situation of needing to travel to see one of them in case of an emergency but not being able to quickly or easily get to them through lack of vaccination or having a vaccine which is not accepted internationally for travel.

 

I go on to say that I would be more than happy to cover the expense of the vaccination and save the burden falling on Thai taxpayers ( even though we pay substantial amounts of tax to the Thai treasury and we employ many workers directly, and indirectly through the supply chain literally thousands ). I then say that sadly that option is not yet open to me for any of the three vaccines of choice allowing me freedom to travel which I desire.  

 

The response is interesting. I cannot recall a single person who has not said one or a combination of these 3 things.

 

Thailand is too corrupt - there is a general feeling amongst people that vaccines are being milked by those who can. In addition the people see the wealthy and connected getting vaccinated and they also see that the elderly, the poor and the vulnerable not being vaccinated. Even well educated middle class coup supporting friends have expressed embarrassment and dismay at what they perceive as corruption in the most important public health issue that Thailand has faced in a generation

 

Do not take Sinovac - there is a huge mistrust of this but strangely not really any other vaccines. So it is an anti-Sinovac rather than an anti-vax sentiment. I am not sure where this has come from, rumor or popular press. Few can offer any scientific argument so I am pretty sure their opinion is not based on reading the latest papers and journals evaluating efficacy. 

 

Overwhelmingly to the point where I can only recall one person who did not say this, they say that change in those in power is needed. Most everyone expresses this in terms of political masters but a few go further. I first came to Thailand in 1982. I have never in that 40 years heard so much resentment expressed against the government of the day.