15 minutes ago, Macrohistory said:

It's going to be interesting to see the reactions by about mid-October of all the superficially brave blowhards here demanding that we "open up NOW!"  As they see people all around them (even children) falling ill and gasping for breath as they literally suffocate to death -- and there are no hospital beds to be found -- the formerly brave among us may decide:  "I should have been careful what I wished for."

 

Oops -- too late!

Lmao. Some of us superficially brave blowhards honestly just dgaf. And you can cry if you want to. It's all the same to us. ????‍♂️

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

How can it drop below 20,000 consecutively?  Once it is below 20,000 one day, it cannot drop below 20,000 again the next.  Once it has dropped, it has dropped.

To be fair, I do understand it. They have set a bar at 20,000 a day on average so every time the daily numbers are lower than 20,000, there is a drop from that number which they reset it at 20,000 for the next day, hence ....consecutively. But I reckon that is a tangential approach ????

2 minutes ago, The Cipher said:

Lmao. Some of us superficially brave blowhards honestly just dgaf. And you can cry if you want to. It's all the same to us. ????‍♂️

 

????  Says the guy who flew to Canada to get double-jabbed with Moderna or Pfizer.  Of course you're brave and dgaf!

 

 

2 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

More U turns than a Thai truck driver on here today. ????

Really? Gloating much or just like posting off topic nonsense, u turn examples?

23 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Luckily you don’t have to. Just sit back and enjoy  the double standards. 

Definition of insanity - a guy talking to himself on an anonymous forum.

 

21 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

I am wondering how they managed to get so many Pfizer vaccines suddenly. I can remember that Pfizea announced in July that all orders would be come next year because they had no capacity anymore...At that point Pfizer was not ordered by the Government yet. The US has given 1,5 million doses and suddenly there are a lot of jabs available...for schoolkids, the frontline medics, elderly people ..Besides that they announced that there would come 120 million doses this year. Sinovac, Sinopharm, Astra Zeneca (10 million a month???) but nobody says anything about the Moderna..

I am very confused... 

I see a lot of provinces with registration sites open for Pfizer. But I don’t think that necessarily means that there will be enough actual doses to go around in the short term. I recall registering for AZ, having a confirmed appointment and it was cancelled 2 days before due to lack of vaccine.

 

my understanding is the same as yours, in that currently there are about 1.5 mil Pfizer in the coffers. If registrations exceed that, some people will have to wait.

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Opening up with around 10% fully vaccinated is not being reckless then? Ok. I'm sure you know what your talking about. 

It's not reckless if they are only opening up to the 10% that are fully vaccinated though is it?  The other 90% are still in lockdown - including you - so nothing will be changing on 1 September for you.   That means that 90% (including you) will need to continue to stay indoors, order food for delivery and avoid selfishly looking to break the rules that you have supported.    I cannot fathom what you are complaining about.    Unless you are actually demanding that everything opens for 100% of people including the "not fully vaccinated" like yourself which you then say is reckless.   

14 minutes ago, Macrohistory said:

????  Says the guy who flew to Canada to get double-jabbed with Moderna or Pfizer.  Of course you're brave and dgaf!

It's true. I took off a couple of weeks ago. But, I just want to clarify - I flew back because the restrictions had made Thailand un-fun. Not specifically to get vaccinated. Now, I am going get vaccinated, but mostly to do that small act to help us put Covid behind us rather than out of any real concern about the pathogen. I do encourage everyone to get vaccinated whether or not they are concerned about Covid personally.

 

Also the 777 I took on the ICN->YVR leg was full af. Probably like 95%+ full. So sometimes I like to pretend that I am, at least, a little bit brave.

3 minutes ago, James105 said:

It's not reckless if they are only opening up to the 10% that are fully vaccinated though is it?  The other 90% are still in lockdown - including you - so nothing will be changing on 1 September for you.   That means that 90% (including you) will need to continue to stay indoors, order food for delivery and avoid selfishly looking to break the rules that you have supported.    I cannot fathom what you are complaining about.    Unless you are actually demanding that everything opens for 100% of people including the "not fully vaccinated" like yourself which you then say is reckless.   

I'm not sure if you have noticed but people are not staying inside.

They have to show they are winning the war against COVID so they can cling onto power longer and attempt to stem the growing dissatisfaction among the general public.  

 

I think we are already beyond any actions that will save this government though.  

 

The economy is toast whatever they do.

Thailand to have 140 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines this year

 

BANGKOK, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Thailand expects to have 140 million doses of coronavirus vaccines this year as the country ramps up inoculation to fight its biggest wave of infections, which shows some signs of easing, a government spokesman said on Sunday.

 

https://news.trust.org/item/20210829035132-eimv1/

44 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Nearly a third of the population now received their first jab and over 10% fully vaccinated, with a prediction that they could achieve 70% by beginning of January. 
 

With the record number of over 900,000 doses achieved recently who is to that target won’t be reached sooner. 
 

https://covidvax.live/en/location/tha

Everything you post here is true.  But I get the sense that you post these things with great pride in the way the situation has been handled.  What is getting lost by your praise is the way things were handled in the beginning.  If you can acknowledge that Thailand waited too long to start vaccinating, I'm happy to agree with you that things are going much better now.  

 

While the world started vaccinating people in the end of 2020, Thailand sat on her hands.  At the end of March, only 180,000 people had been vaccinated.   And by the end of April, it was only 1,500,000.  And 3,700,000 at the end of May.  And that's total vaccinations, of which just a handful of people were double-vaccinated.  And I'm guessing most of the vaccine back then was Sinovac.  

 

Had Thailand not made so many false steps in the beginning, where would we be now?  Well, if Thailand had averaged 400,000 vaccinations per day since February, 84,000,000 shots would have been given, and I'd  estimate that would mean more than 50% of the population would have been double vaccinated.  And had Thailand been giving out shots for 7 months at the current rate of 500,000, today the country would be 70% double vaccinated.  

 

Having only 10% of the population double vaccinated now has caused a lot of problems.  More people getting sick than necessary.  More people getting more sick than they would have, had they been double-vaccinated.  And more people dying than would have been the case, had vaccination roll-out been better, earlier. 

 

So, to be cheering about getting to 70% by January (4-5 months late, according to my math) , seems a bit disingenuous.  Yes, they're doing a good job making up for the mess they created to begin with.  But let's acknowledge both parts.

 

And with that said, it's still not enough, inasmuch as the claim is that you now need 85% double vaccinated with Delta.  We'd be much closer to that benchmark had the vaccination program started at the right time, with the right amount of vaccines available to administer.  And we'd absolutely be able to open the country for tourism, put an end to the economic misery experienced by many today, and not be on any red lists.  

 

Can we agree on that?

11 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

They have to show they are winning the war against COVID so they can cling onto power longer and attempt to stem the growing dissatisfaction among the general public.  

 

I think we are already beyond any actions that will save this government though.  

 

The economy is toast whatever they do.

Spot on. 

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Numbers down, testing down. Probably see testing going down to 40k and infection numbers dropping accordingly. As for the vaccination number of 915,738 doses in one day I think works out to more than 10 people per second recieving a jab. Correct me if I'm wrong. 86,400 seconds in a day.

 

As I have previously posted a friend and 155 others where he works recieved their 2nd AZ jab just 3 wks after their first. How many others have had the same thing. A very good way to increase double jabbed numbers rapidly. I hope this is picked up by news outlets. Complete sham that puts the health and longer term protection of the recipients at risk. 

I got my 2nd shot (AZ) Thursday. 3-4 weeks after is standard in Thailand now. News outlets don't have to pick it up, they know.

 

I don't see how it would put recipients at risk but it could affect long term protection of course. It's always a trade off, quicker protection, shorter long term protection, slower protection, longer protection. I'm glad I got my second shot quickly to protect me now when it's really needed, I'll just have a booster shot early next year.

I think the opening of restaurants next week will cause a major face loss. As soon as staff and customers are tested for covid the numbers will blow up. Or suddenly these tests won't count towards final numbers?

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

48,487 official pcr tests carried out yesterday.

You are wrong, this is the 7 day average figure so the real tests where about 36k. Almost 1 out of 2 test positive now!

10 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Thailand to have 140 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines this year

 

BANGKOK, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Thailand expects to have 140 million doses of coronavirus vaccines this year as the country ramps up inoculation to fight its biggest wave of infections, which shows some signs of easing, a government spokesman said on Sunday.

 

https://news.trust.org/item/20210829035132-eimv1/

They got that from the official CCSA slides yesterday. B.P. did an English version graph but seeing as we can't post that here is the original graphic where I've translated the necessary points. 

 

Notable they anticipate to stop any new orders of Sinovac in Nov & Dec, great news!

 

For this month, although they said in late July that they would have 10 million doses, they actually got 13.8

For the remainder of the year, Sept = 15.3m. Oct = 24m. Nov = 23m. and Dec = 23m.

https://www.hfocus.org/content/2021/08/22866

Follow the past to understand the present.

Look back at the daily infection vs deaths for the last 3 months. Here is a hint 10,000 infected equals close to 100 deaths.

Now what do we see 19k infected and 290ish deaths. Which seems to reflect the infected rate closer to 29,000 a day based off the number of death using the daily tracking history for the last 3 month in my opinion.

2 minutes ago, MikeyIdea said:

I got my 2nd shot (AZ) Thursday. 3-4 weeks after is standard in Thailand now. News outlets don't have to pick it up, they know.

 

I don't see how it would put recipients at risk but it could affect long term protection of course. It's always a trade off, quicker protection, shorter long term protection, slower protection, longer protection. I'm glad I got my second shot quickly to protect me now when it's really needed, I'll just have a booster shot early next year.

Ok. I didn't know this was the case. It is said though that the longer between shots the longer the protection. By putting them at risk I was meaning the protection will last a shorter period of time. Do you know if any other country in the world is doing this. If the company that makes the stuff says 12 wks for best protection I guess 3 wks would get you the least protection.

3 minutes ago, TheDutchEngineer said:

You are wrong, this is the 7 day average figure so the real tests where about 36k. Almost 1 out of 2 test positive now!

I only post the official figures given although you may indeed be correct.

12 minutes ago, mtraveler said:

While the world started vaccinating people in the end of 2020, Thailand sat on her hands.  At the end of March, only 180,000 people had been vaccinated.   And by the end of April, it was only 1,500,000.  And 3,700,000 at the end of May.  And that's total vaccinations, of which just a handful of people were double-vaccinated.  And I'm guessing most of the vaccine back then was Sinovac.  

 

Had Thailand not made so many false steps in the beginning, where would we be now?  Well, if Thailand had averaged 400,000 vaccinations per day since February, 84,000,000 shots would have been given, and I'd  estimate that would mean more than 50% of the population would have been double vaccinated.  And had Thailand been giving out shots for 7 months at the current rate of 500,000, today the country would be 70% double vaccinated.  

 

When the world started vaccinating people the USA, the UK, most of the EU had a massive corona problem.    These countries also contributed significant funding for the research and development of the vaccines.   Thailand did not have a big corona problem in March or any time before that really.   Demand for the vaccines is massively outstripping supply.  

 

In what world, even with the most proactive of governments, would Thailand ever been at the front of the queue for vaccines?   Would the rich western countries have given up any of their supply to ensure Thailand got a fair share despite not contributing to the funding of the research nor having anything like the number of cases/deaths the UK/USA/EU were having?  

 

I'm not sure what else they could have done based on those circumstances - they simply were never going to get western vaccines in any significant number before the rich western countries, especially not when those western countries were in much greater need of the vaccines at the time.

10 minutes ago, TheDutchEngineer said:

You are wrong, this is the 7 day average figure so the real tests where about 36k. Almost 1 out of 2 test positive now!

50,941 tests yesterday, 48,487 today. Still around the 40% mark.

3 hours ago, anchadian said:

Phuket health authorities are reporting 210 new local cases , two cases from the Sandbox and no deaths. There are now 1,538 patients in care. The #PhuketSandbox has had 77 cases since 1st July #COVID19 #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1431774287573110788

Friday and Saturday saw back-to-back 200+ daily cases in #Phuket as infections continue to rise on the island

https://twitter.com/thephuketnews/status/1431837673321218052

 

Phuket marks 210, new COVID cases, care centre patients jump above 700

 

PHUKET: The latest Phuket Provincial Public Health Office (PPHO) daily COVID situation report has marked a record 210 new local infections across the island yesterday (Aug 28), bringing the total number of people recognised as infected with COVID-19 in Phuket since Apr 3 to 3,656.

 

The latest map released by the PPHO showing the locations of the new infections across the island was released yesterday (Aug 28), but marked as accurate as of 6pm Friday (Aug 27), as follows:

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-marks-210-new-covid-cases-care-centre-patients-jump-above-700-81218.php

29 minutes ago, James105 said:

When the world started vaccinating people the USA, the UK, most of the EU had a massive corona problem.    These countries also contributed significant funding for the research and development of the vaccines.   Thailand did not have a big corona problem in March or any time before that really.   Demand for the vaccines is massively outstripping supply.  

 

In what world, even with the most proactive of governments, would Thailand ever been at the front of the queue for vaccines?   Would the rich western countries have given up any of their supply to ensure Thailand got a fair share despite not contributing to the funding of the research nor having anything like the number of cases/deaths the UK/USA/EU were having?  

 

I'm not sure what else they could have done based on those circumstances - they simply were never going to get western vaccines in any significant number before the rich western countries, especially not when those western countries were in much greater need of the vaccines at the time.

Australia did ok ordering vaccines when they had pretty much zero cases and they didn’t contribute much to R&D. Same for NZ.  There is no getting around it, the Thai authorities didn’t order vaccines due to arrogance and stupidity. Now they are falsifying vaccination numbers to save themselves and I think they will get the whistle blown on them at some point.

 

It was first come first serve from the get go. That was always made very clear. 
 

Also why was Thailand one of only 4 countries in the world not to sign up for Covax? Arrogance and stupidity is the reason.

34 minutes ago, James105 said:

When the world started vaccinating people the USA, the UK, most of the EU had a massive corona problem.    These countries also contributed significant funding for the research and development of the vaccines.   Thailand did not have a big corona problem in March or any time before that really.   Demand for the vaccines is massively outstripping supply.  

 

In what world, even with the most proactive of governments, would Thailand ever been at the front of the queue for vaccines?   Would the rich western countries have given up any of their supply to ensure Thailand got a fair share despite not contributing to the funding of the research nor having anything like the number of cases/deaths the UK/USA/EU were having?  

 

I'm not sure what else they could have done based on those circumstances - they simply were never going to get western vaccines in any significant number before the rich western countries, especially not when those western countries were in much greater need of the vaccines at the time.

Another fictional, self pitying and deluded rewriting of history.

After reading the goading, baiting, childish troll posts put out by your chum, we now are fed this garbage.

The UK had a vaccine procurement czar who went out and proactively bought vaccines . Their was an element of risk involved, because the UK did not know if the vaccines would be successful. Luckily, they were and therefore the UK government secured vaxcines as soon as they came to market.

What did Thailand do?

Didn't bother risking a dime booking vaccines early.

Refused India's offer of free AZ.

Didn't bother joining COVAX because it was beneath their dignity.

Ordered some submarines instead.

Thailand was going to try and get a BOGOF special when the world was awash with vaccines.

Do you really believe that vaccines could not have been procured early, if a tiny fraction of Thailand's richest 1% wealth had been deployed?

Don't blame western governments for Thailand's cheap charlie dereliction of duty to it's citizens.

 

 

Just now, GStewart70 said:

Another fictional, self pitying and deluded rewriting of history.

After reading the goading, baiting, childish troll posts put out by your chum, we now are fed this garbage.

The UK had a vaccine procurement czar who went out and proactively bought vaccines . Their was an element of risk involved, because the UK did not know if the vaccines would be successful. Luckily, they were and therefore the UK government secured vaxcines as soon as they came to market.

What did Thailand do?

Didn't bother risking a dime booking vaccines early.

Refused India's offer of free AZ.

Didn't bother joining COVAX because it was beneath their dignity.

Ordered some submarines instead.

Thailand was going to try and get a BOGOF special when the world was awash with vaccines.

Do you really believe that vaccines could not have been procured early, if a tiny fraction of Thailand's richest 1% wealth had been deployed?

Don't blame western governments for Thailand's cheap charlie dereliction of duty to it's citizens.

 

 

 

Following on from my post yesterday regarding cases in the province of Prachuap Khiri Khan, today we have leapt up to 396 cases!! Hua Hin has 226 which may be partially down to a factory cluster, no info. Prachuap itself has 126 and my local region of Bang Saphan Noi has 31. 

Bangkok may be reducing numbers but now provinces seem to be suffering.

Nothing must prevent the Grand Opening, it shall be a glorious triumph!   ????

National Vaccination Rollout:

 

DAY 77: 206,820 <— Sunday

DAY 78: 573,446

DAY 79: 585,214

DAY 80: 637,921

DAY 81: 669,189

DAY 82: 915,738 <— New High

DAY 76: 258,782 <— Saturday

 

TOTAL: 30,679,289 doses since 28 February

 

10.88% fully vaccinated

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1431848673961381891

Frankly, I barely care where the numbers are coming from, nor how accurate they are. They do indicate a positive trend, and this is extremely good news for everyone. And it will encourage the extremely timid authorities to open things up, which will put people back to work!

 

Let us hope this downward trend continues, and let us hope the vaccinations keep rolling in. For the people, for the nation, for all of us! I despise Covid. Get out of our lives. Get out now!