snoop1130 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Thailand’s opposition Pheu Thai party is not concerned whether the constitutional amendments will be approved by the Senate, as the party expects to win the next election, said opposition chief whip Sutin Klangsang today (Wednesday), ahead of the vote whether to accept the popular two-ballot system proposition on Friday. The amendment to revert to the old two-ballot system, with one for 400 constitutional MPs and the other for 100 party-list MPs, instead of the current proportional representation system, is due to be voted on in the joint sitting of the House and the Senate this Friday. The amendments bill needs at least 84 senators to vote in favour for its passage through the third reading. Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/pheu-thai-confident-it-will-win-next-election-no-matter-which-ballot-system-is-used/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2021-09-08 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Always assuming it doesn't get nobbled beforehand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Hell chance not snowballs in a! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Denim said: Always assuming it doesn't get nobbled beforehand. That would be the expected move - ridding any real threatening opposition by the elitist classes. Historic precedent. And so it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclub75 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 It's totally absurd. They might win the popular vote, of course, but why the junta would... vote to go back to the previous system ? With their current system, they totally control the senate ! Hence, any prime minister nomination. It's not a bug... it's a feature ! ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Well, whatever the system used, we can bet there will be last minutes bans and rule changes in order to make sure the green/yellow network wins. Even if PTP wins, there will be still the appointed Senate, the Strategic Committee, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, candide said: Well, whatever the system used, we can bet there will be last minutes bans and rule changes in order to make sure the green/yellow network wins. Even if PTP wins, there will be still the appointed Senate, the Strategic Committee, etc.... Remembering who controls everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza2002 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Opposition have no chance without the Senate votes. As a majority of the 250 Senators were hand picked ex Army/Police Generals pretty obvious who they will be voting for.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 6 hours ago, Forza2002 said: Opposition have no chance without the Senate votes. As a majority of the 250 Senators were hand picked ex Army/Police Generals pretty obvious who they will be voting for.... "Premier for Life" is beginning to sound quite fashionable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 11 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Thailand’s opposition Pheu Thai party is not concerned whether the constitutional amendments will be approved by the Senate, as the party expects to win the next election, They must know something we don't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Oh goody, an election featuring the bad versus the worse. Splendid! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 12 hours ago, Denim said: Always assuming it doesn't get nobbled beforehand. Before, during and after. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 'no matter which ballot system is used' - What about the Bullet Ballot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NoshowJones Posted September 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2021 4 hours ago, ramrod711 said: Oh goody, an election featuring the bad versus the worse. Splendid! Like the UK? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Swagman Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Now this is an example of optimism where if their glass is half full, they head to the bottle shop to get more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) Now... a little overly confident there, Pheu Thai, aren't we? After all: North Korea: No matter which ballot system is used, Kim Jong-un will ALWAYS win. P.R. of China: No matter which ballot system is used, the CCP ALWAYS comes out on top. Turkmenistan: No matter which ballot system is used. Gurbangyuly Berdimuhamedov ALWAYS is the champ. Belarus: No matter which ballot system is used, Alexander Lukashenko makes sure to ALWAYS prevail. Thailand: No matter which ballot system is used, Uncle Too et al know a few tricks in order to... Edited September 9, 2021 by Misterwhisper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 4 hours ago, mikebell said: 'no matter which ballot system is used' - What about the Bullet Ballot? No need. The tried and trusted system of 'one for you and two for me will prevail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgMech Cowboy Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Sounds like they have increased the pay out for vote purchases (or increased the 'penalty' on the village agents who don't 'produce' the correct result). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLSEEINGEYE Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Of course they will win Takky will pay everyone to vote for him again. I'm not happy with this current Govt as they have well overstayed their welcome, but if the country goes back to Pheu Thai controlled by Takky then it will be even worse off than it is now IMHO. I've been here almost 20 years and remember all the nastiness that came along with Pheu Thai. I hope there is a 3rd option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 I keep saying it; the only way this bunch of Gangsters is going to be removed is by millions on the streets and a General Strike, a few thousand Students plus a few stragglers will never shift them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Generals should concentrate on military and police matter - not running countries. Mind you once they have filled their pockets and emptied the coffers enough they may step aside for a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Forever Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 43 minutes ago, ALLSEEINGEYE said: Of course they will win Takky will pay everyone to vote for him again. I'm not happy with this current Govt as they have well overstayed their welcome, but if the country goes back to Pheu Thai controlled by Takky then it will be even worse off than it is now IMHO. I've been here almost 20 years and remember all the nastiness that came along with Pheu Thai. I hope there is a 3rd option. Yes the "nastiness" that resulted in Pheu Thai being elected by a landslide and prior to that likewise with TRT. What I class as "nastiness" is a bunch of armed thugs led by Suthep stopping citizens from voting and forcing the democratically elected Yingluk to flee the country leaving the door open for this current junta. If it was "nastiness" under Pheu Thai then I say bring it on! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 4 hours ago, trainman34014 said: I keep saying it; the only way this bunch of Gangsters is going to be removed is by millions on the streets and a General Strike, a few thousand Students plus a few stragglers will never shift them. And remains the same over generations - 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 2:54 AM, mikebell said: 'no matter which ballot system is used' - What about the Bullet Ballot? the system where there is only one party on the ballot paper, and a soldier standing next to the voter while s/he votes??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 12:26 AM, RichardColeman said: Generals should concentrate on military and police matter - not running countries. Mind you once they have filled their pockets and emptied the coffers enough they may step aside for a few years. Actually, military and policing systems needn't be that dominate throughout a Buddhist culture. But.....that's another edition to be explored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 An inflammatory post has been rmeoved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 12:26 AM, RichardColeman said: Generals should concentrate on military and police matter - not running countries. Mind you once they have filled their pockets and emptied the coffers enough they may step aside for a few years. How might've you come to such a conclusion? If what you've mentioned above is true, they would've stepped aside a generation [or two] ago. The unsavoury financial benefits are an incentive, but what it really gets down to is the power and control that shapes their destiny. .....and the principle reason for their existence - protection of traditional institutions. All of which, have gone to seed. So....the game has become rather moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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