Countryside Town or Province EXTRA Quarantine?

[NoshowJones]

3 minutes ago, GreasyFingers said:

It is a direction of the Provincial Governor. The puu yai just carries out the orders, unless you do it differently in the city.

I don't live in a city, just a Village/ small town. I have never heard my wife mention any headman even after 15 years here. But I take on board what you have said.

[GreasyFingers]

4 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

I don't live in a city, just a Village/ small town. I have never heard my wife mention any headman even after 15 years here. But I take on board what you have said.

But you can tell the forum all about how useless, uneducated they are.

[scorecard]

3 hours ago, Farma said:

What a lot of you are missing is the fact covid is being introduced into villages from people mostly travelling back from Bangkok or other red zones.

 

I've been told by medical staff that sometimes up to 80% of my provinces daily cases can be traced to an outside arrival not quarantining then spreading it to family and friends. I imagine the same could be said for other provinces.

 

The locals, pu yai barns, volunteers and police have been told to report anyone not following the rules with police escorting non compliant people to quarantine. Word spreads fast even to neighbouring villages.

 

Just about every largervillage i drive through has it own little quarantine area.

 

I've done ASQ followed by another 14 days home quarantine. It not a big problem. 

Well said. I add that it seems to me there's  an ongoing / historical factor that a very high % of Thai folks (county and city folks) don't read newspapers and don't watch TV news programs (flip over to the soaps) so they are very poorly informed.

 

Further, many folks (more especially the older folks) grew up being told/observed that it's not their business to decide anything, just do as you're told by the puu yai baan. 

 

Then there's a reliance on whether the puu yai baan understands the details and whether he/she does regularly inform the village folks. 

[NoshowJones]

Just now, GreasyFingers said:

But you can tell the forum all about how useless, uneducated they are.

I take it you mean AN members? I am not telling the forum anything, I have learned a lot through reading TV/AN and living here  over the last 15 years, so all I am doing is giving my opinion which is what all the posters do. So think again before coming away with such nonsense.

[Farma]

1 hour ago, possum1931 said:

Looks like this is just another Thai going on a power trip. Just like other Thai traits like making unnecessary noise and wearing uniforms.

Just what authority does this headman or whatever he is, have over the OP? Would he actually have the power to call the cops and demand that they tell the OP to do what he says? Can the OP not just tell this little Hitler where to get off?

Each province issues its own rules. Heres an example.

 

"Travel restrictions to Sisaket

Latest update from 15.09.2564

Translated by Google

 

Maximum and Strict Control Areas Bangkok, Chachoengsao, Chon Buri, Nakhon Pathom, Nonthaburi, Narathiwat, Pathum Thani, Pattani, Tak 29, Phra Nakhon Si Ayutthaya Province, Yalas, Songkhla, Samut Prakan, Samut Sakhon, Kanchanaburi, Nakhon Nayok, Nakhon Ratchasima, Prachuap Khiri Khan, Prachin Buri, Phetchaburi, Phetchabun, Rayong, Ratchaburi, Singburi, Samut Songkhram, Saraburi, Suphan Buri and Ang Thong, Kamphaeng Phet, Khon Kaen, Chanthaburi.

 

The highest controlled areas: Kalasin, Kamphaeng Phet, Khon Kaen, Chanthaburi, Chainat, Chaiyaphum, Chumphon, Chiang Rai, Chiang Mai, Trang 37, Trat Province, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Nakhon Sawan, Buriram, Phatthalung, Phichit, Phitsanulok, Maha Sarakham, Yasothon, Ranong, Roi Et, Lampang, Laphun, Sisaket, Sakon Nakhon, Satun, Sa Kaeo, Sukhothai, Surin, Nong Khai, Nong Bua Lam Phu, Uttaradit, Uttaradit.

 

Controlled areas in 11 provinces, Krabi, Nakhon Phanom, Nan, Bueng Kan, Phayao, Phang Nga, Phrae, Phuket, Mukdahan, Mae Hong Son and Surat Thani.

 

Ask those who travel to Sisaket province to behave as follows.

Those who travel to the area report to the public health officers / village health officers, community leaders in the area immediately after traveling to Sisaket province or residing in Sisaket province and scanning QR code to register all and screening travel history from risk areas.

 

Traveling from the area 1. There is a test result of coviral-19 by RT-PCR method "no infection test result" no more than 72 hours with maximum control and must have documents confirming "no need to quarantine"

 

strict 29 provinces 2. 

In the case of people who received 2 doses of COVID-19 vaccine or completed doses, or according to the number of each vaccine and the highest control area, or who received 1 dose of AstraZeneca vaccine for not less than 14 days, or who have recovered from their illness in 37 provinces  With Covid-19 for no more than 90 days, “no need to quarantine”

 

3. Those who travel from abroad who have completed 14 days of state quarantine quarantine, “do not need to quarantine 4. If there is no evidence or documents of any kind  One of the items in Article 1 or Item 2 or Item 3 “must self-isolate at a government facility for 14 days and collect samples for COVID-19 testing.

Traveling from non-quarantine areas unless with a history of risk assessed by responsible health officials in 11 prefectures subject to 14-day self-quarantine at home/residence and collecting samples for COVID-19 testing.

 

Please observe any abnormal symptoms. If you have a fever and respiratory symptoms, your nose doesn't smell, your tongue doesn't taste, you need to go to the doctor. Please observe strict self-protection according to the measures “Stay away - Wear a mask - Wash your hands -  Measure temperature - detect infection - scan Thai Chana  (DMHTTA)” and protect themselves to the utmost in accordance with the “Universal Prevention for coMD 19) by taking the utmost care of yourself, thinking that everyone you meet is likely to be infected and seeks medical attention.  Cooperate with citizens to travel only when necessary. From our control:"

 

Then you can get additional instructions when clusters appear. Notice the instructions to inform on violators. 

 

"Announcement of the District Disease Control Operations Center (Prof. Por. A.D. )

Benjalak District

Those who attended the funeral of Ban Nong To, Village No. 4, Nong Hang Subdistrict, Benchalak District, between September 12-18, 2021, ask them to detain.  Observe yourself for a while. Stop meeting people. If you feel unwell, please inform Kinglay staff 082-xxx-xxxx Han found violators inform Mr. Amnat H hotline number 081-xxx-xxxx."

 

[recom273]

47 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

I don't live in a city, just a Village/ small town. I have never heard my wife mention any headman even after 15 years here. But I take on board what you have said.

Really? Doesn’t he blurt his messages from the village tannoy system in the morning and evening?

 

We thought we needed to introduce ourselves and we needed a little assistance, turns out it’s nepotism .. his wife’s father used to be headman - even tho we have land, we made small talk about some more, his house is prime land overlooking the village reservoir and he came up with more land in prime locations at exorbitant prices, all belonging to his wife’s family.

 

They may get orders from the municipality but I would imagine they have creative license on ways to enforce and selectively use enforce the rules that benefit them financially. 
 

The day we moved from our house there was no directive from the municipality, he bowed to pressure from local residents, 14 days self isolation wasn’t announced until the day we arrived - and then it changed 2 days later to state quarantine. 
 

General ignorance and poor education - the 100% 

Edited September 20, 2021 by recom273

[NoshowJones]

2 minutes ago, recom273 said:

Really? Doesn’t he blurt his messages from the village tannoy system in the morning and evening?

 

We thought we needed to introduce ourselves and we needed a little assistance, turns out it’s nepotism .. his wife’s father used to be headman - even tho we have land, we made small talk about some more, his house is prime land overlooking the village reservoir and he came up with more land in prime locations at exorbitant prices, all belonging to his wife’s family.

 

They may get orders from the municipality but I would imagine they have creative license on ways to enforce and selectively use enforce the rules that benefit them financially. 

I have heard messages in Thai from loudspeakers attached to telegraph poles nowhere near any people except in passing vehicles. I assume that would be the headman, just shows their mentality.

I would certainly agree with your last paragraph.

[1FinickyOne]

sounds to me as if he is protecting the people in the village..  many people safer at the expense of a few.. 

 

you do know people are dying... real people. not statistics

[superal]

1 hour ago, Farma said:

Each province issues its own rules. Heres an example.

 

"Travel restrictions to Sisaket

Latest update from 15.09.2564

Translated by Google

 

Maximum and Strict Control Areas Bangkok, Chachoengsao, Chon Buri, Nakhon Pathom, Nonthaburi, Narathiwat, Pathum Thani, Pattani, Tak 29, Phra Nakhon Si Ayutthaya Province, Yalas, Songkhla, Samut Prakan, Samut Sakhon, Kanchanaburi, Nakhon Nayok, Nakhon Ratchasima, Prachuap Khiri Khan, Prachin Buri, Phetchaburi, Phetchabun, Rayong, Ratchaburi, Singburi, Samut Songkhram, Saraburi, Suphan Buri and Ang Thong, Kamphaeng Phet, Khon Kaen, Chanthaburi.

 

The highest controlled areas: Kalasin, Kamphaeng Phet, Khon Kaen, Chanthaburi, Chainat, Chaiyaphum, Chumphon, Chiang Rai, Chiang Mai, Trang 37, Trat Province, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Nakhon Sawan, Buriram, Phatthalung, Phichit, Phitsanulok, Maha Sarakham, Yasothon, Ranong, Roi Et, Lampang, Laphun, Sisaket, Sakon Nakhon, Satun, Sa Kaeo, Sukhothai, Surin, Nong Khai, Nong Bua Lam Phu, Uttaradit, Uttaradit.

 

Controlled areas in 11 provinces, Krabi, Nakhon Phanom, Nan, Bueng Kan, Phayao, Phang Nga, Phrae, Phuket, Mukdahan, Mae Hong Son and Surat Thani.

 

Ask those who travel to Sisaket province to behave as follows.

Those who travel to the area report to the public health officers / village health officers, community leaders in the area immediately after traveling to Sisaket province or residing in Sisaket province and scanning QR code to register all and screening travel history from risk areas.

 

Traveling from the area 1. There is a test result of coviral-19 by RT-PCR method "no infection test result" no more than 72 hours with maximum control and must have documents confirming "no need to quarantine"

 

strict 29 provinces 2. 

In the case of people who received 2 doses of COVID-19 vaccine or completed doses, or according to the number of each vaccine and the highest control area, or who received 1 dose of AstraZeneca vaccine for not less than 14 days, or who have recovered from their illness in 37 provinces  With Covid-19 for no more than 90 days, “no need to quarantine”

 

3. Those who travel from abroad who have completed 14 days of state quarantine quarantine, “do not need to quarantine 4. If there is no evidence or documents of any kind  One of the items in Article 1 or Item 2 or Item 3 “must self-isolate at a government facility for 14 days and collect samples for COVID-19 testing.

Traveling from non-quarantine areas unless with a history of risk assessed by responsible health officials in 11 prefectures subject to 14-day self-quarantine at home/residence and collecting samples for COVID-19 testing.

 

Please observe any abnormal symptoms. If you have a fever and respiratory symptoms, your nose doesn't smell, your tongue doesn't taste, you need to go to the doctor. Please observe strict self-protection according to the measures “Stay away - Wear a mask - Wash your hands -  Measure temperature - detect infection - scan Thai Chana  (DMHTTA)” and protect themselves to the utmost in accordance with the “Universal Prevention for coMD 19) by taking the utmost care of yourself, thinking that everyone you meet is likely to be infected and seeks medical attention.  Cooperate with citizens to travel only when necessary. From our control:"

 

Then you can get additional instructions when clusters appear. Notice the instructions to inform on violators. 

 

"Announcement of the District Disease Control Operations Center (Prof. Por. A.D. )

Benjalak District

Those who attended the funeral of Ban Nong To, Village No. 4, Nong Hang Subdistrict, Benchalak District, between September 12-18, 2021, ask them to detain.  Observe yourself for a while. Stop meeting people. If you feel unwell, please inform Kinglay staff 082-xxx-xxxx Han found violators inform Mr. Amnat H hotline number 081-xxx-xxxx."

 

1 dose of AstraZeneca vaccine for not less than 14 days, 

      1 dose of AZ is not sufficient protection and this is coming from those in control and who must be obeyed , similar to the Phuket sandbox when they said 1 sinovac at least needed to qualify working in Phuket . Even the top government officials go along with this . Why are they not aware of the correct requirements ?  B/S baffles brains ? 

[zzaa09]

7 hours ago, possum1931 said:

I don't live in a city, just a Village/ small town. I have never heard my wife mention any headman even after 15 years here. But I take on board what you have said.

All local municipalities secure a loose-knit societal/political kinship with a Phu Yai, Arbator, Ombudsman, Village Council, etc - usually elected in a round about manner. 

[moon47]

On 9/20/2021 at 7:13 AM, Farma said:

What a lot of you are missing is the fact covid is being introduced into villages from people mostly travelling back from Bangkok or other red zones.

 

I've been told by medical staff that sometimes up to 80% of my provinces daily cases can be traced to an outside arrival not quarantining then spreading it to family and friends. I imagine the same could be said for other provinces.

 

...

 

I've done ASQ followed by another 14 days home quarantine. It not a big problem. 

It is a bit of a problem for me, I have limited time here and allot to do.

 

All of witch will take longer than expected because of COVID restrictions. I only have 90 days on my Non-o (Getting a multi entry is useless now) and I do not want to go through the hassle and money required to do the 1 year extension.

 

We can only stay  a max. of less than 6 months.  Otherwise my wife will loose her ability to get US citizenship. Otherwise she has to wait another 3 years and more problems with US immigration.

 

I will probably still have to do the 1 year as I anticipate not having enough time, having lost almost 1/3 of my time to ridiculous quarantine requirements. I will probably end up having to purchase 1 year of insurance and go through Thai immigration hoops just to get less than 3 more months use from all that.

 

Getting a covid extension now will not help and I do not anticipate it being available when I need it.

 

Hoping for the best and expecting the worst. It's usually the latter. =[

 

 

I do understand the need to be extra safe.

 

However these people carrying COVID from province to province are most likely unvaccinated people that are visiting bars and shopping malls before they return home. Not usual fully vaccinated people that received 3 PCR tests, reported their temperature 2 times a day then left 14 day ASQ and went straight to the country.

 

To me if you are contracting and or spreading COVID there are just a few main reasons:

- you are either forced into a dangerous situation like nurses or poor working conditions in a factory/construction site

- you are being irresponsible, ignorant or just not being safe

- you are exposed and infected by the above two without your knowledge (least likely)

 

The germaphobes had it right all along. Whoever points and laughs at someone using a tissue to open a door or carrying disinfectant with them now is just ignorant by choice?

 

People in our town always looked at my funny. Now they do it with ignorant hatred when most cases are spread by the locals.

 

Sigh, please forgive my lengthy rant...

 

Sincerely,

 

Frustrated with humanity... =[

[moon47]

I can not express in words how relived I am about the COVID extension being pushed out until November.

 

It makes all this trouble that much easier to swallow... 

 

Whew...