3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Amazing that The MOPH app for Mor Phrom app even has changed and the totals for Friday are even different from what the BP shows. So which is correct.  This shows that there is true massaging or game playing going on with numbers.

Some creative accounting going on somewhere. Numbers just not adding up and no official updates

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Some creative accounting going on somewhere. Numbers just not adding up and no official updates

Like Phuket it would appear. No wonder they are on the red list as well as Level 4 for the US no one trusts the numbers.  People wonder why we bag on the government, well this is a prime example of why and why we don't believe the stats given.

3 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Calm down. No one is calling anyone anything. 
 

Likewise with this guy who posted on the same thread in response to the poster and had the total opposite experience. 

 

“What hospital and where?

I was due for my second Astra jab on October 20th at Phayathai 2 hospital but now it's been brought forward to September 30th.” 

 

Was it 12 wks between jabs and has now been brought forward 3 wks? I find this interesting as my 2nd AZ jab is mid Oct which is 12 wks after the 1st. From what I've seen the longer the gap up to and including 12 wks the better for AZ.

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Was it 12 wks between jabs and has now been brought forward 3 wks? I find this interesting as my 2nd AZ jab is mid Oct which is 12 wks after the 1st.

My AZ vaccination jabs were 12 weeks apart exactly.

10 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

My AZ vaccination jabs were 12 weeks apart exactly.

That's recommened by the makers but here they've been doing 3 wks lately obviously to get people vaxed as fast as possible to open up. The thing is coverage for people is lessened as waning will happen a lot sooner. mRNA is 3 wks, AZ is 12 wks. 

Yep, so just 108,480 yesterday according to this one, I really can't see the point of doing over a million one day only to the go all the way down to 100K+ the next, cancelling peoples appointments so they were re booked for the 24th, the chaos caused in some vaccine sites with huge queues and no social distancing. 

 

Thailand's Vaccine Tracker (Sept. 26, 2021) Saturday saw a dip in inoculations after the Mahidol Day surge. 31,352,795 (+40,659) people have received the first dose, while 17,667,069 (+67,821) have been fully inoculated.

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1442067236118614016

 

48 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

According to this from the CCSA daily slides, only 112,215 vaccinations were administered yesterday. So you go from over a million one day to just over 100k the next? 

https://media.thaigov.go.th/uploads/public_img/source/260964.pdf

 

Although this infographic was timed at 12.07 pm?

4 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Although this infographic was timed at 12.07 pm?

Seems like the pushed foward and brought back vaccination appointment theory may have some justification. All to save face and say we did it whilst playing people as pawns in their face saving, braging, bit noting game.

22 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Seems like the pushed foward and brought back vaccination appointment theory may have some justification. All to save face and say we did it whilst playing people as pawns in their face saving, braging, bit noting game.

The overwhelming majority of the million + Thai citizens who benefitted from this day won’t give a hoot about your conspiracy theories and who scored what points.
 

They will have better things to do and be glad they have had some Covid protection and a step closer to getting back to normality, and getting their jobs and livelihoods back on track. 
 

 

 

33 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yep, so just 108,480 yesterday according to this one, I really can't see the point of doing over a million one day only to the go all the way down to 100K+ the next, cancelling peoples appointments so they were re booked for the 24th, the chaos caused in some vaccine sites with huge queues and no social distancing. 

 

Thailand's Vaccine Tracker (Sept. 26, 2021) Saturday saw a dip in inoculations after the Mahidol Day surge. 31,352,795 (+40,659) people have received the first dose, while 17,667,069 (+67,821) have been fully inoculated.

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1442067236118614016

 

And from NBT - Total 112,215

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158270664782050

1 minute ago, Kadilo said:

The overwhelming majority of the million + Thai citizens who benefitted from this day won’t give a hoot about your conspiracy theories and who scored what points.
 

They will have better things to do and be glad they have had some Covid protection and a step closer to getting back to normality, and getting their jobs and livelihoods back on track. 
 

 

 

You still haven't answered the question of what the opening up of the borders looks like for tourists?

What's that 'getting back to normality' look like in terms of restrictions?

With a paltry 100,000 plus jabs yesterday, it evened out .

More playing to the gallery for gullibles like you.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

The overwhelming majority of the million + Thai citizens who benefitted from this day won’t give a hoot about your conspiracy theories and who scored what points.
 

They will have better things to do and be glad they have had some Covid protection and a step closer to getting back to normality, and getting their jobs and livelihoods back on track. 
 

 

 

And this is the result from a hospital last Friday.

 

Just a reminder - https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1441369371062931456

 

5 minutes ago, anchadian said:

And this is the result from a hospital last Friday.

 

Just a reminder - https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1441369371062931456

 

Your wasting your time with him.

The Thai government endangered their citizens at over crowded, covid spreading scrums to get a headline, so their misguided apologists could post on forums like this.

 

 

A reminder of what? 
 

You and the other foreigners who commented on it  are obviously  more bothered about the crowds and lack of social distancing than they were. 
 

I guess it was ok when another regular poster joined the queues a few weeks back for his jab. No comments made then. 
 

The result was they got a much needed vaccination. 

31 minutes ago, anchadian said:

And this is the result from a hospital last Friday.

 

Just a reminder - https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1441369371062931456

 

A sad but good example of how not to conduct a responsible vaccine roll out, all for the sake of carrying out 1 million plus in a day when it would have been far safer spread over a couple of days and not end up with empty vaccine sites the following day.

 

I remember when they first started the roll out in Phuket, there were a couple of sites that needed to be closed as they turned out to be spreader events and they were not even that bad.

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yep, so just 108,480 yesterday according to this one, I really can't see the point of doing over a million one day only to the go all the way down to 100K+ the next, cancelling peoples appointments so they were re booked for the 24th, the chaos caused in some vaccine sites with huge queues and no social distancing. 

 

Thailand's Vaccine Tracker (Sept. 26, 2021) Saturday saw a dip in inoculations after the Mahidol Day surge. 31,352,795 (+40,659) people have received the first dose, while 17,667,069 (+67,821) have been fully inoculated.

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1442067236118614016

 

One word, grandstanding by the government. Look how good we are, we done 1 million vacs in a day. They went from 800k to next 2 days at 600k to 1 million down to 100k. All about the look instead of getting jabs into people's arms as soon as possible. If you have the vacs in stock, get them given, don't hoard them and save them up just to look good on one day. Your dealing with saving lives, not a playground boasting game. 

51 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

The overwhelming majority of the million + Thai citizens who benefitted from this day won’t give a hoot about your conspiracy theories and who scored what points.
 

They will have better things to do and be glad they have had some Covid protection and a step closer to getting back to normality, and getting their jobs and livelihoods back on track. 
 

 

 

And I'm sure 300-400k of them could have been given a shot a few days earlier.

25 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

A sad but good example of how not to conduct a responsible vaccine roll out, all for the sake of carrying out 1 million plus in a day when it would have been far safer spread over a couple of days and not end up with empty vaccine sites the following day.

 

I remember when they first started the roll out in Phuket, there were a couple of sites that needed to be closed as they turned out to be spreader events and they were not even that bad.

Sort of like the Bang Sue debacle that Anutin denied was happening when they first opened up for Jabs and a few of the members of this forum vouched as truly happening by providing photos much like what was posted on twitter at the time. I hope those members who believe this Government is doing the right thing can admit the actual faults are true instead of denying facts and calling us names and such.

9 hours ago, anchadian said:

UPDATE: 12,353 confirmed cases, 1,759 probable cases, and 125 deaths (1.04%). Out of 122,463 patients , 35,051 are in hospital, 66,357 in ‘hospitel’ and 15,023 in home/community isolation. 3,324 in a serious condition (+1) with 724 on ventilators (-5) #Thailand #COVID19

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1441938511393746945

Ironically, TL is doing better than the UK now
UK has a pop of 67 mil , fully vac rate of 71% n 29,746 cases while TL has a pop of 69 mil, less than 25% vacc rate  n just 12,353 cases
So its ludicrous for the UK to classify TL as a red zone n to not recognize vaccines used in TL when its  having far higher cases .

The myth about Sinovac generating more recurring breakthrough cases is also plain uneducated BS as TL is already having 50% less covid cases than the UK despite the latter having "so called " superior vaccines.
Chile (19 mil pop), which is 84% vacc with 95% of vaccines being Sinovacc only have 700 cases now n of cos China ( the elephant in the room) have virtually near zero cases despite the spread of Delta to 32 cities a few months ago ... 

15 minutes ago, relax33 said:

Ironically, TL is doing better than the UK now
UK has a pop of 67 mil , fully vac rate of 71% n 29,746 cases while TL has a pop of 69 mil, less than 25% vacc rate  n just 12,353 cases
So its ludicrous for the UK to classify TL as a red zone n to not recognize vaccines used in TL when its  having far higher cases .

The myth about Sinovac generating more recurring breakthrough cases is also plain uneducated BS as TL is already having 50% less covid cases than the UK despite the latter having "so called " superior vaccines.
Chile (19 mil pop), which is 84% vacc with 95% of vaccines being Sinovacc only have 700 cases now n of cos China ( the elephant in the room) have virtually near zero cases despite the spread of Delta to 32 cities a few months ago ... 

Thailand is not testing as the UK is, and truthfully the positivity rate in Thailand is around 30% looking at what's given as tests completed and number of daily infections.  So your view is incomplete.

1 hour ago, Kadilo said:

The overwhelming majority of the million + Thai citizens who benefitted from this day won’t give a hoot about your conspiracy theories and who scored what points.
 

They will have better things to do and be glad they have had some Covid protection and a step closer to getting back to normality, and getting their jobs and livelihoods back on track. 
 

 

 

Look at the numbers. Why was there such an increase on Friday? I'll tell you why because they said that's what will happen and they made it happen by moving peoples jabs to Friday be it pushed forward or brought back. No conspiracy just more manipulation by an untrustworthy government. 

Now this is indeed hearsay but I was told somewhere around half of the million were students. Don't know how many of these were jabbed with Sinopharm but I would guess a lot. Anyone knows details on this I'd like to hear.

32 minutes ago, relax33 said:

Ironically, TL is doing better than the UK now
UK has a pop of 67 mil , fully vac rate of 71% n 29,746 cases while TL has a pop of 69 mil, less than 25% vacc rate  n just 12,353 cases
So its ludicrous for the UK to classify TL as a red zone n to not recognize vaccines used in TL when its  having far higher cases .

The myth about Sinovac generating more recurring breakthrough cases is also plain uneducated BS as TL is already having 50% less covid cases than the UK despite the latter having "so called " superior vaccines.
Chile (19 mil pop), which is 84% vacc with 95% of vaccines being Sinovacc only have 700 cases now n of cos China ( the elephant in the room) have virtually near zero cases despite the spread of Delta to 32 cities a few months ago ... 

Guess you have to test to find. As I've been saying New South Wales in Australia with around the population of BKK is doing around 120,000 tests a day which is probably 3x more than Thailand as a whole is doing with a population of 70,000,000. I'm guessing that the UK looks at Thailand's testing and I guess they know that ATK positives are not being added to daily infection numbers. I'm thinking they don't trust what they're seeing from here. 

51 minutes ago, relax33 said:

Ironically, TL is doing better than the UK now
UK has a pop of 67 mil , fully vac rate of 71% n 29,746 cases while TL has a pop of 69 mil, less than 25% vacc rate  n just 12,353 cases
So its ludicrous for the UK to classify TL as a red zone n to not recognize vaccines used in TL when its  having far higher cases .

The myth about Sinovac generating more recurring breakthrough cases is also plain uneducated BS as TL is already having 50% less covid cases than the UK despite the latter having "so called " superior vaccines.
Chile (19 mil pop), which is 84% vacc with 95% of vaccines being Sinovacc only have 700 cases now n of cos China ( the elephant in the room) have virtually near zero cases despite the spread of Delta to 32 cities a few months ago ... 

China has a zero covid policy as well.

A single case and a million plus get tested, enforced lockdowns and 21 day quarantine upon entry into the country.

The UK is concerned Thailand hasn't adequate genome sequencing and doesn't know what's going on.

A la virtually no proactive testing compared to a million tests a day in the UK.

There was nearly 70,000 at the Joshua fight last night in London.

I would worry about Thailand not the UK.

Nice to know of your concern though.

Thoughtful.

1 hour ago, Kadilo said:

A reminder of what? 
 

You and the other foreigners who commented on it  are obviously  more bothered about the crowds and lack of social distancing than they were. 
 

I guess it was ok when another regular poster joined the queues a few weeks back for his jab. No comments made then. 
 

The result was they got a much needed vaccination. 

How can you say this without saying who the regular poster is. Really? Are you just making this up. This is just a nonsensical post without you supporting your comment. I remember posts from Bang Sue showing huge crowds. Of course this might just have been the camera angle.

2 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said:

Your wasting your time with him.

The Thai government endangered their citizens at over crowded, covid spreading scrums to get a headline, so their misguided apologists could post on forums like this.

 

 

This is a particularly supurb post. Both concise and astute.

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

This is a particularly supurb post. Both concise and astute.

Thanks.

@Kadilo posts fantasies masquerading as facts.

He still hasn't given me an answer about his utterances on Thailand's borders opening and how 'high season' will be achieved.

It's now 26th September.

National Vaccination Rollout:

 

DAY 105: 256,392 <— Sun

DAY 106: 469,052

DAY 107: 811,915

DAY 108: 646,519

DAY 109: 626,896

DAY 110: 1,300,677 <— New High

DAY 111: 112,215 <— New Low

 

TOTAL: 50,101,055 doses since 28 February #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1442122376037089281

5 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said:

Thanks.

@Kadilo posts fantasies masquerading as facts.

He still hasn't given me an answer about his utterances on Thailand's borders opening and how 'high season' will be achieved.

It's now 26th September.

No. You will not see that. 

1 hour ago, relax33 said:

Ironically, TL is doing better than the UK now
UK has a pop of 67 mil , fully vac rate of 71% n 29,746 cases while TL has a pop of 69 mil, less than 25% vacc rate  n just 12,353 cases
So its ludicrous for the UK to classify TL as a red zone n to not recognize vaccines used in TL when its  having far higher cases .

The myth about Sinovac generating more recurring breakthrough cases is also plain uneducated BS as TL is already having 50% less covid cases than the UK despite the latter having "so called " superior vaccines.
Chile (19 mil pop), which is 84% vacc with 95% of vaccines being Sinovacc only have 700 cases now n of cos China ( the elephant in the room) have virtually near zero cases despite the spread of Delta to 32 cities a few months ago ... 

Yet in the UK everything is open, schools, all businesses, events, concerts, festivals and they are living with the virus after the successful vaccination plan they had. Every household in the country can get a free pack of 7 rapid tests daily, children from 12 up just started to get their covid vaccines, Pfizer one shot each. The numbers that have swelled are predominantly in students from 10 to 19 years old, who have returned to school but once vaccinations are completed this will decline. 
 

Tell us again how Thailand is doing right now?

2 hours ago, Petey11 said:

And I'm sure 300-400k of them could have been given a shot a few days earlier.

You’re sure or you’re joining the guessing bandwagon. ?