Death of trespasser: Swiss man's Thai wife was having affair with victim, say family

[PingRoundTheWorld]

4 minutes ago, khunpa said:

Now should he ever turn up again, I can beat the <deleted> out of him, without worries.

Personally I'd move and lose all contact with him. I actually moved countries when I broke up with my bipolar schizophrenic ex-gf a few years back. Our first month together she was fine, but the next couple of months went downhill fast. After she started getting violent and attacked me a couple of times, threatened to throw herself off the balcony if I left her, and even pulled up a knife (which I quickly disarmed) I figured the only way to get out of this was to cut all contact - so I went on an overseas vacation and never came back (to her). And of course she also had a psycho criminal ex-bf who was stalking her and threatening me.

 

I got out of the situation pretty quickly, but I'm sure had I stayed I would've ended up either badly hurt or in jail.

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

Was the deceased going to the house for a bit of ‘nookie’ after he received a phone call from the wife (as the family claimed) - Phone records will prove that - but why take a gun ????

Or did the Swiss mans wife have a plan afoot to get rid of her husband?

[Destiny1990]

Why the farang is in jail for defending himself against an intruder with a gun? 

[jazzdog32095]

1 hour ago, BE88 said:

In the end it seems that the story resumes that the wife had a brother who in addition to having sex with his "sister" wanted money from the stupid farang who did not pay him enough to have sex with his wife called sister.

 

The first rule in Thailand is to always check and re check the brother..

I'm confused, somewhere the thief / dead Thai is called the son, now brother of the drunk wife??

[Mac Mickmanus]

5 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Or did the Swiss mans wife have a plan afoot to get rid of her husband?

Yes, She did phone him and tell him to come and visit 

[ukrules]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

BUT... It has been admitted by the family that the deceased owned the gun - WHY did he take the gun to the Swiss mans house ????

 

IF they are admitting there was no reason (or attempt) to steal... What was the deceased doing at the house with a gun ?????

Indeed they are so sure he wasn't there to rob him, that can only mean one thing - he went there to kill him.

[Sydebolle]

Good script for a soap opera

[ukrules]

51 minutes ago, connda said:

Swiss farang is now a terrible person deserving of jail and whatever hell the Thai legal system can throw at him while cheered on by the attacker's family and the Thai public.

This is not what's happening in the Thai social media, from what I've heard they're all overwhelmingly backing the Swiss guy here.

[hotchilli]

8 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

Why the farang is in jail for defending himself against an intruder with a gun? 

Because he's a farang and this is Thailand.

If anyone should be investigated it's the missus for phoning him with an invitation to come over and bring a gun.

[wadman]

5 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Indeed they are so sure he wasn't there to rob him, that can only mean one thing - he went there to kill him.

I think it's more likely that Sathian went there to tell Rudolph to move on and move away.  The house is likely in the wife's name, so can Rudolph kindly make himself scarce now, so Sathian and Lak can live happily ever after in her house.

[ukrules]

It's interesting that he's living back in the same house as his wife and mother in law right now.

 

I'll bet that creates a difficult atmosphere while they're sitting having dinner each night.

[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

He chose the "mia farang".

Just one obstacle to that...

[connda]

1 hour ago, connda said:

So the story gets twisted Thai style.

The wife has a boy-friend who jumps the fence and threatens the Swiss farang with a deadly weapon - a revolver.  The Swiss farang defends himself, disarms the attacker, and ties him up for the police.  Attacker dies.  Swiss farang is now a terrible person deserving of jail and whatever hell the Thai legal system can throw at him while cheered on by the attacker's family and the Thai public.  He's obviously a guilty bad-man because his wife and the attacker were screwing behind his back and ripping off his wealth.  So the entire affair is the Swiss farang's fault and he should be thrown into a prison for the rest of his life - or pay the family his life savings.  Anyway you cut it, the Swiss farang is guilty as hell and the authorities will find something to pin on him in the name of "justice."
Does that sound about right?  Yeah? 
Why do I think he was the only victim?

I've been thinking about how the Thai press and RTP will spin this:

"Jealous farang husband lures wife's lover into home and entices him to bring a loaded firearm before brutally murdering the defenseless armed intruder in a fit of rage!!!"

Does that sound about right???

[ukrules]

26 minutes ago, wadman said:

I think it's more likely that Sathian went there to tell Rudolph to move on and move away.  The house is likely in the wife's name, so can Rudolph kindly make himself scarce now, so Sathian and Lak can live happily ever after in her house.

Sure, that's why he took the gun with him right?

 

So you're suggesting he went there to rob the guy of the house, make him homeless but not steal his money? Makes perfect sense ????

[connda]

31 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Because he's a farang and this is Thailand.

If anyone should be investigated it's the missus for phoning him with an invitation to come over and bring a gun.

 

9 minutes ago, connda said:

I've been thinking about how the Thai press and RTP will spin this:

"Jealous farang husband lures wife's lover into home and entices him to bring a loaded firearm before brutally murdering the defenseless armed intruder in a fit of rage!!!"

Does that sound about right???

The story will never get spun as "wife calls Thai boyfriend to family home with gun in order to murder farang husband."  

These headlines could have easily read,
"Swiss pensioner murdered in home invasion as wife slept."
 

My Spidey-Sense tells me that's how the headline may have been supposed to read.
But I'm thinking it's closer to the truth.  ????

Edited October 6, 2021 by connda

[tomyami]

If the swiss man was shot dead would it have being covered up, like so many farang who have disappeared in the sticks, to thai's its just another farang house recovered.

 

[wadman]

2 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Sure, that's why he took the gun with him right?

 

So you're suggesting he went there to rob the guy of the house, make him homeless but not steal his money? Makes perfect sense ????

To intimidate him into moving away.  Not on the spot, but hopefully soon.  A gun is a great tool to add to the intimidation.

[wadman]

3 minutes ago, tomyami said:

If the swiss man was shot dead would it have being covered up, like so many farang who have disappeared in the sticks, to thai's its just another farang house recovered.

 

If the Swiss was shot dead, he would have no one to speak up for him (I doubt the wife would).  

[tingtongfarang]

1 hour ago, connda said:

So the story gets twisted Thai style.

The wife has a boy-friend who jumps the fence and threatens the Swiss farang with a deadly weapon - a revolver.  The Swiss farang defends himself, disarms the attacker, and ties him up for the police.  Attacker dies.  Swiss farang is now a terrible person deserving of jail and whatever hell the Thai legal system can throw at him while cheered on by the attacker's family and the Thai public.  He's obviously a guilty bad-man because his wife and the attacker were screwing behind his back and ripping off his wealth.  So the entire affair is the Swiss farang's fault and he should be thrown into a prison for the rest of his life - or pay the family his life savings.  Anyway you cut it, the Swiss farang is guilty as hell and the authorities will find something to pin on him in the name of "justice."
Does that sound about right?  Yeah? 
Why do I think he was the only victim?

I reckon in the next days the cops will have him in the station jamming bags over his head demanding money

[BE88]

1 hour ago, connda said:

So the story gets twisted Thai style.

The wife has a boy-friend who jumps the fence and threatens the Swiss farang with a deadly weapon - a revolver.  The Swiss farang defends himself, disarms the attacker, and ties him up for the police.  Attacker dies.  Swiss farang is now a terrible person deserving of jail and whatever hell the Thai legal system can throw at him while cheered on by the attacker's family and the Thai public.  He's obviously a guilty bad-man because his wife and the attacker were screwing behind his back and ripping off his wealth.  So the entire affair is the Swiss farang's fault and he should be thrown into a prison for the rest of his life - or pay the family his life savings.  Anyway you cut it, the Swiss farang is guilty as hell and the authorities will find something to pin on him in the name of "justice."
Does that sound about right?  Yeah? 
Why do I think he was the only victim?

If you don't count that dead man, yes

 

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, Mavideol said:

as the old saying goes "" there are always two (2) versions to a fact/story "" if it smells like fish it must be fishy

Never heard "the old saying" that goes, "there are always two versions of a fact".   Where did you find that gem?

[HAPPYNUFF]

OK, so  he didnt say Money money, but Maa nee,,, come here,,,,    ...come here farang Im going to kill you so I can  get all your  money as well as your dog of a wife.     And  gee,  all those thousands of baht he was carrying in his pocket, as everyone does at night while climbing fences of course, is now missing.... that  damn farang probably stole   that too.... Im sure the   wife didnt. shes far too nice a person...not.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Aussieroaming said:

I hope that the Swiss Embassy gets involved in this to make sure that the Swiss guy doesn't get railroaded for defending himself and his property

Embassies will not provide legal assistance, they direct their citizens to lawyers.

[bobandyson]

3 hours ago, Mavideol said:

as the old saying goes "" there are always two (2) versions to a fact/story "" if it smells like fish it must be fishy

Sometimes 3 sides to a story...............in this case we have; 

 

his side, her side and the TRUTH.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

1 hour ago, LeatFingies said:

He carries 400,000baht around everywhere? Right.

No, but the robbers may take him to the location of where the money was kept

 

The bank?

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

As we all know, the truth has little or no value in Thailand.

"As we all know..."

Such garbage.   Just get so sick of posters saying "as we all know", as though what follows that is ever accepted or substantiated fact, eg.  "the truth has little or no value in Thailand".

Edited October 6, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[matchar]

He has been cremated already? What were the results of the autopsy? At least we have established the gun belonged to the intruder as I already suspected.

I wonder if poor Rudolf has any life insurance policies that the wife might have benefited from? Either she was involved or the jealous Thai man went there of his own accord.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Destiny1990 said:

Why the farang is in jail for defending himself against an intruder with a gun? 

Because he killed him!

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, connda said:

I've been thinking about how the Thai press and RTP will spin this:

"Jealous farang husband lures wife's lover into home and entices him to bring a loaded firearm before brutally murdering the defenseless armed intruder in a fit of rage!!!"

Does that sound about right???

No, it sounds like shi_te.

[tomyami]

47 minutes ago, wadman said:

If the Swiss was shot dead, he would have no one to speak up for him (I doubt the wife would).  

I would bet the village where all in on it wife drunk on the night premiture celebration, but the plan backfired