Thailand Nov 1 reopening to go ahead providing COVID-19 situation remains stable

[10baht]

5 hours ago, pagallim said:

An example of some of the SHA+ accommodation available under the Phuket Sandbox.   Might be of interest to those budget conscious.

B fricking S, I went to the web page and 800 THB / night X .07 VAT , no breakfast: 1 Nov-Mar 31.

 

[Farangus]

I think that the root of all problems is not only the corruption of the authorities, but also the misconception of all Thai citizens about their country as the center of the world. I am a bachelor and have many Thai girls with whom I have friendly (and more intimate) relationships. All all Thai girls like to ask: for how many days I have arrived. However, not a single Thai girl asked me if I would return to Thailand AGAIN. But they all ask: how soon will I be back to Thailand NEXT TIME? Those, they do not even have the idea that there are many other countries on our planet and I can go somewhere other than Thailand.
Probably, the authorities have the same concept and they imagine that millions of people are ready to return as soon as possible and no one will be stopped by their stupid COE and quarantine. I am almost sure that in November there will be another failure in the plans and only this will make the Thai authorities think and go for another liberalization for tourists.

[Bkk Brian]

There'll be a nice uptick in arrivals the week before Christmas with all the students attending international boarding school and all the UNI students returning home for 2 or 3 weeks. Great for totting up the numbers.

[smew]

and then a surprise to your plans .. in a last minute a government so called ''expert'' will announce a change due to whatever  and bcs and you must do 2 week quarantine a a hotel so and so.... another scamming opportunity     

[bkk6060]

21 minutes ago, Farangus said:

there are many other countries on our planet and I can go somewhere other than Thailand.

Then go, but

 

21 minutes ago, Farangus said:

I am a bachelor and have many Thai girls with whom I have friendly (and more intimate) relationships.

You probably will not have this..

[drenddy]

They will open, in some way, they just need to figure out how to squeeze the incoming tourists.

[DLock]

4 hours ago, bolt said:

 

I believe that by November 1^st or 15^th, the 5 other Sandboxes will be ready, BUT it’s not announced or Royal Gazetted yet

 

So my plan is wait until November, for the NEW 5 sandboxes are announced, and then enter via that route, I’ve already done Sandbox in Phuket and even though 14 days was too long, 7 days will be fine as long as we’re allowed out using same principle as Phuket sandbox.

 

The areas are

1. Bangkok,

2. Chiang Mai (Muang. Mae Rim, Mae Taeng and Doi Tao districts),

3. Prachuap Khiri Khan (Hua Hin district),

4. Phetchaburi (Cha-am district) and

5.Chon Buri (Pattaya, Bang Lamung and Sattahip districts), government spokesman Thanakorn Wangboonkongchana said on Saturday. 

Edited just now by bolt

So, on the 15th November, in Chiang Mai, I can leave my AQ Hotel at 7am, and go anywhere I want in Chiang Mai and return at midnight?

 

...or Prachuap, or Cha-am, or Bangkok?

 

This is all I'm trying to figure out.

 

In which case, what is the purpose of the AQ?

[ThailandGuy]

With all the requirements Thailand imposes on tourist for entering the country?  No thank you!  This is not opening. It is still a holiday with many limitations and feels like a jail with benefits.  I just want to travel free around the country. No stamps, tracking devices, quarantine, insurance issues (we all have medical insurance coverage way beyond 100.000usd , but some will not provide a paper saying they will cover 100.000 usd).  So i will visit again another country this year.

[pagallim]

1 hour ago, 10baht said:

B fricking S, I went to the web page and 800 THB / night X .07 VAT , no breakfast: 1 Nov-Mar 31.

 

If anyone was interested, I would email them as yes, the Sandbox rate isn't mentioned in their website.

[dave moir]

9 hours ago, Fujionrye said:

What does reopen mean?

 

Tourists can come but can't drink alcohol or enjoy themselves ????????

[Jiggo]

9 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Following the reopening, the government expects to earn 1.5 trillion baht from tourism in 2022, Mr Thanakorn said. 

 

Straight into the money cloud....

[ThailandGuy]

5 minutes ago, Jiggo said:

Straight into the money cloud....

Which probably gets hacked and quickly disappears like snow in the sun.... ????????????

[Pjeffries]

its a case-demic not a pandemic.. stop the unreliable pcr testing ( what cycle threshold is thailand using btw) and the problem goes away. Those dying,  is it from covid ? or testing positive with covid and dying of other factors - this is happening here in the uk, its labelled a covid death even if you die in a car crash within 28 days of a positive covid test. Scores here in the UK test positive, no symptoms , no viral load can be passed to others - even W.H.O and fauci said asymptomatic do not drive pandemics. 

i  know a teacher who was off 6 weeks because her weekly tests kept coming back positive to the point the college contacted a government department and they said to ignore the test results, she can go back.....

 

time to stop the theartre and get back to normal.

Edited October 10, 2021 by Pjeffries

[DrPhibes]

And don't count on the Chinese to save the high season.  Has anyone looked at flights out of Beijing or Shanghai lately?  I only found Cathay pacific with an 8hr flight Shanghai to BKK, all the rest were like 30+ hrs and about $2,000 USD round trip.  Last stories I read are the population is trying to at least get their college age kids out before the door really closes.  The Chinese gov is not renewing passports, closed down Crypto-currency (easy to move money out of the country), recently instituted a data handling law that is actually way more than just saying how a company handles data and can be used retroactively, and upping it's nationalistic social conditioning.  All signs of closing out the rest of the world and keeping the citizens in the dark and indoctrinated.

[bangon04]

9 hours ago, charmonman said:

So this announcement is maybe we will, maybe we won’t- have fun making your plans!

Starting Point:   Read it in the Royal Gazette......

[NokYai611]

For now, as a practical matter, this announcement means nada.

 

To obtain a COE (I am in process)………Thai embassies have no new guidance from Bangkok ….7 day ASQ booking or Sandbox approach still REQUIRED for permission to “plan” for Thailand arrival in early November.  TIT

 

 

[BadSpottedDog]

39 minutes ago, DrPhibes said:

And don't count on the Chinese to save the high season.  Has anyone looked at flights out of Beijing or Shanghai lately?  I only found Cathay pacific with an 8hr flight Shanghai to BKK, all the rest were like 30+ hrs and about $2,000 USD round trip.  Last stories I read are the population is trying to at least get their college age kids out before the door really closes.  The Chinese gov is not renewing passports, closed down Crypto-currency (easy to move money out of the country), recently instituted a data handling law that is actually way more than just saying how a company handles data and can be used retroactively, and upping it's nationalistic social conditioning.  All signs of closing out the rest of the world and keeping the citizens in the dark and indoctrinated.

Yep. I commented on another article. My daughter teaches English to Chinese kids online. The companies that that provide this service, are now having to shut down. Chinese don't want any more foreign influence, and are prohibiting foreign teachers. 

[CartagenaWarlock]

10 hours ago, alex8912 said:

So if a "cluster" appears 10/30 or 10/31 then no opening 11/1?!!  That is exactly what the article says. Who the $&@" would book a ticket?

People who are desperately looking for brides or orgies. 

[Gerard052]

9 hours ago, bolt said:

Lots of choices on AGODA Quarantine, I’m guessing the new AQ package includes the mandatory PCR tests (day 1 & day 6)

The PCR test cost approx. 2500-3,000 each, maybe less now.

 

Bangkok Quarantine AQ 7 day

NOVOTEL 7,800

 

Pattaya Quarantine AQ 7 day Still not showing up yet

 

Make sure its Quarantine package DON”T PAY unless your 1,000,000% sure you have everything sorted

Thank you very much, I'll check it out.

[kennw]

11 hours ago, alex8912 said:

So if a "cluster" appears 10/30 or 10/31 then no opening 11/1?!!  That is exactly what the article says. Who the $&@" would book a ticket?

Opening criteria should be WHO guideline ie. less than 5% positive in wide scale random testing means covid is under control. Singapore currently 1.2% Malaysia 4% Viet 7% , Thailand 26%. Reach your own conclusions. 

[thailand49]

Knowing the leaders don't have much fortitude or brain power I hope it happens but when they say open from past history don't expect the opening to be any wider than the crack in the puppet butt!????

[spidermike007]

We want to open. We really need the money. But, we are petrified of this Bubonic plague. It really scares us.

 

And we can't wrap our minds around the possibility that the Thai people are now more dangerous than foreigners, as proven in Phuket, where only 1% of cases are from foreigners. 

 

Maybe we can get some adults to help us plan this. 

[cape]

7 hours ago, bolt said:

Sorry COE is Permission to enter, nothing to do with quarantine

you need an COE to enter Phuket sandbox.

 

COE will remain

COE was created to verify that people entering Thailand weren't a threat by bringing in covid.

The method was quarantine and covid insurance.

Once you remove these requirements, you will have removed the COE.

[drgoon]

Tell him he's dreamin'

 

 

[13thomas13]

I'll wait...booked for Feb...fingers crossed as usual.

[zib]

15 hours ago, Fujionrye said:

What does reopen mean?

 

Hotel booking req will be dropped. Only simple COE required showing you have some insurance + vaccine. Still test before flying and one on arrival. Unclear if also a test after 1w.

[joecoolfrog]

14 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

That's quite a few domestic trips. They must have included the scooter trips to Seven.

Not to mention the trips outside for a dump.

[joecoolfrog]

14 hours ago, smedly said:

and will you still come here if entertainment/bars are shut and a curfew is running at 10pm and 90% of the city is closed (Pattaya) and you have to stay in a 4+ star hotel at 3000 plus baht per night and must take 3 PCR tests at 3000baht each and if you test positive be force quarantined at your own expense for at least 14 days - seriously are you mad

 

They might be saying / claiming Thailand is open meaning you can come here after agreeing and paying but Thailand is far from open when you get here - it is shut and shuttered with a state of emergency still in place and Covid still spreading throughout the country

What we need from TAT is precise clarity as to what ' Open ' actually means. Instead its just more fantasy numbers which help absolutely nobody .

[joecoolfrog]

13 hours ago, chilli42 said:

Oh come on.  Enough of the hysterics and alarmist reactions.  

Those figures are not in the least alarmist , if anything they are conservative compared with a fully open UK which has a similar population size.

Infections mean little in themselves , hospitalisations and deaths are key.

Unfortunately for Thailand it is still some months away from the requisite level of vaccination that allows total reopening.

November will be nothing more than another fudge , tourist friendly conditions next spring maybe.

[joecoolfrog]

13 hours ago, rupert the bear said:

for me i think that tourist arrivals will be minimal[many people coming thru the sandbox are actually long term residents] until this nonsense stops,IE insurance,the hotel scam,the never ending redtape and the dodgy expensive testing.it must be like this for people to enter in large nos-fully vaccinated with a neg covid 19 test. pcr or rapid antigen.simple hassle free to a large extent.you can book a tckt get on the plane with a test in hand.i can travel to a multitude of destinations across the world tody without all this hassle and that no will grow as the time passes. by next mnth it will include the majority of tourist  destinations in Europe,the uk USA, mid east,some latam countries and so on.the hold out will be down under where things are very curious.their own citizens are having problems getting home.neighbouring asian countries will open soon that are tourist competitors as they have high vacc nos IE singapore,malaysia,cambodia and others will follow soon after.simply put who wants to put up with this nonsense. thailands not such a great draw is the true reality and when you double down with this type of expense and time wasting ....forget it.

You know this , I know this and the Thai government know also.

We are being fed a diet of nonsense , I doubt anybody knows why.