New Immigration Bureau boss signals new orders so police can easily track down foreign suspects in Thailand

[BE88]

There's a new boss in charge of immigration now that's why at immigration last week everyone was looking at me with suspicion.

 

 

Edited October 14, 2021 by BE88

[LivinLOS]

Here we go.. Stage 2 of how a military government mindsets pans out for foreigners.. 

Remember all the pathetic yellow supporting farangs a few years back, cheering on the ridiculous whistle blowing anti corruption protests, led by of all people Suthep (you need to be utterly clueless about this country to champion Suthep as an anti corruption campaigner). Every single one of those supporters played a role in this, every single one of them should be shamed for the support of a military coup and the support of the removal of democratically elected governance in favor of centralized military power. 

Edited October 14, 2021 by LivinLOS

[malibukid]

round em up, tie em up, Rawhide  hee. haw

Edited October 14, 2021 by malibukid

[LivinLOS]

2 hours ago, NanaSomchai said:

Not quite, they now have biometric scanning technology at their disposal at every entry/exit point of the Kingdom, be it by land, air or sea since mid 2019.

 

Once your biometrics details have been entered into that database, you're stored there for virtually... forever.

password 123456

[NanaSomchai]

3 minutes ago, BE88 said:

Current technology still has its limits such as changing the fingerprint with the application of a false fingerprint pasted on the index finger.

 

Changing fingerprinting which is not accessible to 99.99% of the common mortals. Let's be real here.

[NanaSomchai]

1 minute ago, LivinLOS said:

password 123456

What does having a weak password has to do with biometric scanning systems?

[Orinoco]

The only thing 100% sure to be caught in Thailand,  is VD.

[CharlieH]

Some new head honcho wants to grab the headlines and make his mark.

Great until he steps on someones income stream and then gets moved to an empty desk.

Xenophobic ideas are always a winner and usually involve some major purchase to implement, and that will gather dust or never work properly either.

Same same, nothing to see here, move along, all change next month !

[thailand49]

Consistent!  One ship for the foreigners one ship for the Thais!  What ship is the Red Bull in?????

[BE88]

1 minute ago, NanaSomchai said:

Changing fingerprinting which is not accessible to 99.99% of the common mortals. Let's be real here.

Yes, because for the most part they are petty and stupid criminals but the real high-level criminals have the money to buy everything including the controllers, but this will never arrive in Thailand we all know, none is corruptible.

 

[Bigz]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

I had heard finger print scanning was fairly random, and another reason could be lack of maintenance and devices out of order, for which the country is famous. 

I hope you are correct... as keeping out foreign undesirables is fine by me.... at the moment we still seem to have them a plenty. 

Before they closed the borders I had 3-4 entries /exits a year. Fingerprint scanning was used when I crossed at Suvarnabhumi airport, 

at Mukdahan and also at Chong chom. At Nong Khai it was out of service. So yes you are right. The system is occasionally down.

[BE88]

1 minute ago, Bigz said:

Before they closed the borders I had 3-4 entries /exits a year. Fingerprint scanning was used when I crossed at Suvarnabhumi airport, 

at Mukdahan and also at Chong chom. At Nong Khai it was out of service. So yes you are right. The system is occasionally down.

I assume some big fish must pass without the annoying control.

 

[LivinLOS]

7 minutes ago, NanaSomchai said:

What does having a weak password has to do with biometric scanning systems?

The fact that the systems they design, implement and use, generally fall far short of the ability they conceived they would have due to inept design and administration. 

[maddermax]

Oh dear! This means there is no chance of the 90 day requirement being dropped soon.

[NanaSomchai]

12 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Some new head honcho wants to grab the headlines and make his mark.

Great until he steps on someones income stream and then gets moved to an empty desk.

Xenophobic ideas are always a winner and usually involve some major purchase to implement, and that will gather dust or never work properly either.

Same same, nothing to see here, move along, all change next month !

Your post screams of deja vu.

[eggers]

......And when is Immigration going to restore contact via email +++ when will 90 Day reporting be resumed OnLine, Lieutenant Pakpoomphiphat Sajjapan???

[NanaSomchai]

10 minutes ago, Bigz said:

Before they closed the borders I had 3-4 entries /exits a year. Fingerprint scanning was used when I crossed at Suvarnabhumi airport, 

at Mukdahan and also at Chong chom. At Nong Khai it was out of service. So yes you are right. The system is occasionally down.

That is my experience as well. Entered exited 3 times via Suvarnabhumi before the COVID-19 blew up, fingerprint scanning was mandatory every single time and working just fine.

 

For a typical petty criminal to defeat the system he would:

 

1) Get a new citizenship from a different country he's known for in Thailand.

2) Get a firstname/surname change in his new passport.

3) Be extremely lucky and bet on the sheer chance that the system is down on the day he's entering/leaving the Kingdom every single time.

 

Seems highly unpractical to me.

[NanaSomchai]

13 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

The fact that the systems they design, implement and use, generally fall far short of the ability they conceived they would have due to inept design and administration. 

Excepted in this case, the system used in Thailand has been designed, implemented, installed and maintained by a German vendor. There's nothing Thai to it.

[phutoie2]

Breaking hot poop news from Immigration:

 

90 day reporting to be replaced with 90 minute reporting. 

 

We need to know what these pesky foreigners are up to.... 

 

 

[Rampant Rabbit]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

The newly installed immigration police chief wants to create a climate of fear against foreign criminals

But  not their own force  then

[Rampant Rabbit]

3 hours ago, Crossy said:

Sadly, whilst I do think increased vetting is a sensible idea, I suspect this initiative will result in a standard Thai "sledge hammer and nut" solution.

 

It's far easier to assume we are all criminals on the run than it is to actually filter out the bad guys.

You always  looked  dodgy to me????

[BestB]

Tourists have not even started to return yet and they already looking for ways to make it hard .

 

you want better tracking ? Fix your websites which are always down 

[ThaiFelix]

But why would criminal elements want to use Thailand as a base?  I mean its not like the police, customs, army, even Govt ministers, are world renown (a hub you might say) to likely take a bribe to turn a blind eye or be corrupt enough to work in partnership with any criminal activities going on here??  And its not like Thailand has a long history of being a major producer of illicit drugs such as Thai Sticks, heroin, opium etc., although nowadays more of a conduit for methamphetamine from Myanmar to the rest of the world??  Its a mystery to me.  Maybe its the climate, beaches and dual pricing that attracts all these criminals here.

[SuwadeeS]

For me it just proves that this xenophobic country should Not re-open at all.

Just Jeep the borders closed to make sure no foreigners at at all enter the country.

 

That will also protect the foreigners from getting cheated by dual pricing. 

Which by now is officially legal after a THAI court decicion.

 

[bradiston]

You keep writing subs like you have here in italics, any judge is going to throw the case against him out of court. 

[mokwit]

1 hour ago, meechai said:

Sadly I think so too

 

I am imagine a new tougher reinstated version of TM30 soon ????

What irritates me is they let 39m people a year into the country without stopping to consider that with that many there are bound to be a fair number of criminals. There is no country with 39m people that doesn't have a criminal element. Having let them in they then apply a "collective punishment" approach such as 90 day. TM30 to try and control them.

[DTL2014]

let's be honest , criminals are the law enforcements meat and veg.

[internationalism]

so thai biometric system is already for many years, yet every month there are high profile arrests of criminals under false identity, banned from thailand earlier.

Uyghur erewan bombers some 7 years ago got their stamps from aranyaprathet for 20k, as well as visa runners who just gave passports to agents and never went to border themselves.

There were high profile cases of criminals, terrorists departing thailand on stole passports, which were never checked against some 50 mln international missing passport database.

 

As to stopping criminals from boarding air planes to thailand. They will go to any neighbouring country and enter overland or sea. If somehow detected, they will pay thai smugglers to sneak them through green border and pay visa agent to take care of fake entry stamp and extensions.

Thai borders are very porous and immigration officers are very corrupt. Thousands cross thai borders every single day in any direction. Maybe only 10% are detected on the border. Another 10% within country. The rest get settled for years with help of local officials 

Edited October 14, 2021 by internationalism

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, NanaSomchai said:

May I ask, was this by air/land or sea and how recent were these entries/exits into the Kingdom?

2019 and 2020 by air .............

[BritManToo]

11 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

But why would criminal elements want to use Thailand as a base?  I mean its not like the police, customs, army, even Govt ministers, are world renown (a hub you might say) to likely take a bribe to turn a blind eye or be corrupt enough to work in partnership with any criminal activities going on here??  And its not like Thailand has a long history of being a major producer of illicit drugs such as Thai Sticks, heroin, opium etc., although nowadays more of a conduit for methamphetamine from Myanmar to the rest of the world??  Its a mystery to me.  Maybe its the climate, beaches and dual pricing that attracts all these criminals here.

You forgot the main reason ......... money laundering.

There were Chinese coming in with suitcases full of money