My wife is laughing at my fat gut that is developing rapidly.

[Chad3000]

1 minute ago, Walker88 said:

Fat always puzzles me.

I think it's two things

 

1. a half kilo a year and you weigh a ton in 15.

2. Beer. I only drink beer when I'm out because I can't trust the quality of the scotch and it's a poor value.

 

I've put on 4kg over this last year in lockdown. I'll lose it by December. My goal always is 3kg over my high school weight.

 

I'm not doing ridiculous diets, giving up whiskey or running (I hate running and static gym exercise).

 

Good luck op.

 

Drop carbs

[Will B Good]

4 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Fat always puzzles me. I see so many foreigners waddling around Bangkok and Pattaya with waists I figure must be 50 inches/125 cm or more. Their walking is labored, and I would guess the fat came first and led to the labored gait, as the weight puts extra stress on joints. These guys did not go to bed one night a svelte 180 lbs./~80kg on a 185 cm frame and wake the next day at 125 kg. That takes a lot of conscious (lack of) effort to get that obese. Do folks not see it happening? Why do so many wait so long to even consider taking action?

Guilty to a degree.

 

Working all hours, having to entertain (business), the wife is a "feeder", lived in hotels for 5 months......bang up to 90kg.

 

Fought back down to 74kg, got lazy and drifted back up to 82kg......time to get active again.

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

no use telling people to “go to a gym”. not the way.

refer my above “ simple easy” steps approach…….

first just cut out the junk intakes…..

see the “ i get my health from the pharmacy” types are slowly emerging

[Will B Good]

4 minutes ago, WhiteBuffaloATM said:

no use telling people to “go to a gym”. not the way.

refer my above “ simple easy” steps approach…….

first just cut out the junk intakes…..

see the “ i get my health from the pharmacy” types are slowly emerging

Best advice I heard was from a doctor in the USA......

 

.......he said the only difference between fat people and thin people is thin people only eat when they are hungry and stop eating as soon as they don't feel hungry!!!

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

yeah but healthy / unhealthy is real distonction, not fat/ thin. 

plenty thin types extremely unhealthy ( often heavy smokers).

[1FinickyOne]

33 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

For the OP, eat less and exercise.

 

As for the young sexy girls....agree.  If the OP can't get an erection with a young hottie, he's already dead. 

banana banna and a fo... 

 

and there isn't any name that I can't rhyme

[4737 Carlin]

Cut out all the bad foods and get cycling. Not just rolling around the neighbourhood either. Get a proper road bike and go hill climbing if your in a mountainous region. I don't know any fat cyclists here and most are in good shape for their age.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, 4737 Carlin said:

Cut out all the bad foods and get cycling. Not just rolling around the neighbourhood either. Get a proper road bike and go hill climbing if your in a mountainous region. I don't know any fat cyclists here and most are in good shape for their age.

I would agree, although my boss, fit as fiddle, thin as a lat, 52, rode about 100 miles every weekend.......dropped dead in the middle of the pack......they reckon he was 'dead' before his face hit the tarmac.......luck of the draw!

 

Might have died at 42 if not for cycling of course.

[vandeventer]

12 hours ago, olfu said:

in short--life is tough and then you die.

All these diets, but who follows them and for how long if you do? I am in better shape now than when I was in my forty's. Yes I exercise everyday, I would like to walk some, but the dog packs in my area are many.I   have found drinking 1 tablespoon of Apple cider vinegar mixed with water gets rid of most of my belly fat. Try it it might help you 

[RachaRob]

Well i just lost 50 kgs.... She walked out the door with her suitcase today.

[Polaky]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

No idea, I tried the black P3 and it worked ......... there is also P1, P2 and M1 to try.

What the hell is black cocoa?, there is cocoa which is refined and there is cacao which is the bees knees, as many have already said sugar is the biggest enemy, eradicate it from your diet, keep away from beer = carbs and sugar = pot belly, if you drink then vodka on ice preferably or whiskey, no junk food, no bread, regular exercise, does not have to be strenuous, so long as it is regular, work up to doing 100 pushups a day, not in one hit but as many as you can do at a time, try keto which is great, no low fat milk, get the full cream high fat milk, stay away from oils except olive and instead have butter, if you want proof of that lookup butter bob on yt, make your own ghee and cook solely with that, plenty of eggs/bacon, at night a teaspoon of physilium husk with plenty of water, and if all that doesn't work think about a separation lol!.

[Bluespunk]

4 hours ago, bbabythai said:

Why do you recommend this?

It might help with weight loss but not in isolation. 
 

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/coffee-increase-metabolism#TOC_TITLE_HDR_4

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

yeah but healthy / unhealthy is real distonction, not fat/ thin. 

plenty thin types extremely unhealthy ( often heavy smokers).

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

that lost 50kg is 45 + 5 or 35 +15 ? both meeting my strict “ very small” criteria…. for women not bags ……

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

being healthy is nothing to do with (faddish) “diets”

nor is that apple cider vinegar weight loss bs

weight is basically calories in / calories out. no “ supplements” involved.

[mokwit]

2 minutes ago, WhiteBuffaloATM said:

weight is basically calories in / calories out. no “ supplements” involved.

Yes, but whether they spike insulin on the way in and out is important.

[mokwit]

2 hours ago, perconrad said:

What is the advantage of black cocoa against normal brown cocoa?

Other way 'round I thought. Black cocoa has been treated with alkali (potassium) in a process called 'Dutching' which makes it less bitter (acidic), more soluble in water, and darker. It also reduces the available antioxidant flavenols/oids.

 

I drink a super heaped tablespoonful of the least treated I can find for the Magnesium content (180mg per super heaped tablespoonful). Other supposed benefits i.e. antioxidant flavenols/oids and compounds that reduce blood pressure are nice side effects if they are fact.

 

 

Edited October 16, 2021 by mokwit

[BE88]

16 hours ago, Gaccha said:

 

 

I run (not jog) 8km every 2 days. Build yourself up to this. Start with babysteps: 1 slow jog of 5km per week. Lots of running Apps to help you build up. I find this so easy now that the next day I feel nothing. 

 

 

Every morning, do a bit of weightlifting in your bedroom and around 100 press-ups and sit-ups. 

 

 

 

It doesn't seem to me that you lead a sedentary life but rather a life as an athlete ready for the Olympics game.????

 

[Gaccha]

12 minutes ago, WhiteBuffaloATM said:

being healthy is nothing to do with (faddish) “diets”

nor is that apple cider vinegar weight loss bs

weight is basically calories in / calories out. no “ supplements” involved.

We now know this way of understanding is flawed. The body holds your fat in a way which is unaffected by strategies which simply count calories. It is too responsive to feedback loops.

 

Think of your fat storage as like a deep dreeze in the garage. Insulin spikes (produced the most by sugar but there are many culprits) open the deep freeze and let the calories in. Fasting is the only way to get the fat out of the body.

 

It sounds intuitive to say 10 calories = 10 calories but it's not true. 10 calories of certain foods are far worse than others. The science on this is staggeringly complex, and I recommend a deep dive into the scientific literature. But we all intuitively grasp this; we feel "empty calories" from highly processed foods are worse than some fruit or vegetables. And we're right. 

 

Please nobody listen to this 1980s simple and wrong message. We also know the equally naive idea that eating fat is bad is also wrong. It had the same wrong simple idea: fat = fat. Not true. In fact, eating fat is needed to lose fat. 

[allanos]

There is a wealth of helpful, informative advice in this thread, for the OP, much of it highly complex.

 

Wouldn't it be easier, and simpler, for him to get rid of the missus and find a new chick who

doesn't laugh at his paunch?

 

One poster has mentioned the high cost of growth hormone. As we age, our production of growth hormone `drops until it is virtually non-existent. Research has shown that giving growth hormone to elderly recipients has shown terrific improvements in their overall vitality and mind clarity.

 

Personally, I take one 3mg melatonin cap every night before sleep, to stimulate the production of growth hormone in my body. Melatonin is inexpensive. It may require a doctor's script.

 

I also believe in the benefits of omega 3 capsules, thrice daily, particularly as I seldom eat fish.

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

yeah but Will, healthy / unhealthy is real distinction not fat/ thin. 

plenty of thin types are extremely unhealthy (often heavy smokers).

 

with you again Gaccha, thats why I simplified for OP benefit with “ basically”.

calories in / out is not flawed just simplistic.

dont recommend calorie counting,or do it myself, as its unnecessary, over-complicated & tedious.

of course you must eat only “good” foods.

if you overfeed even only on the healthiest foods you will be fat. period.

if you drink too much water ….even the best……you will die.

trying to keep this simple…..

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

HGH sufficient natural stimulation always possible with Sleep, Fasting & No Junk Intake.

Simply No Need for artificial HGH, by any means, particularly not Drugs…….

Melatonin has Major Side Effects.

[Card]

17 hours ago, Gaccha said:

Yep. After a high blood pressure result, I went all in over 2 years ago and I'm down to 20.5 BMI. You need commitment. And forget the idea about your metabolism slowing down: that's not science, it's not a thing. Metabolism only really slows down over 60 years old and not even by much. 

 

I run (not jog) 8km every 2 days. Build yourself up to this. Start with babysteps: 1 slow jog of 5km per week. Lots of running Apps to help you build up. I find this so easy now that the next day I feel nothing. 

 

I don't eat for 18 hours. Eat within a 6 hour time period only. If you have a pretty sedentary life, you only need one meal a day. So stop eating at 6pm and next eat at 12pm. But splash out on it. So long as the body enters "famine mode" for 3 or so hours a day (it kicks in around 15 hours of not eating), then you're cutting away that fat. You'll feel high when you enter famine mode. It just feels great.

 

During the 18 hour period, only water, tea (no milk/sugar), coffee (no milk/sugar). Or herb teas.

 

No sugar. This is your true enemy. Substitutes work with a lot of people (e.g. Stevia). You can buy no-sugar chocolate, no-sugar sweets, no-sugar ice cream etc. But even these you should probably not take during the 18 hour famine period (the science is out on this).

 

No alcohol. Except say once a week. 

 

You'll need to control hunger pangs. Drink Japanese Green Tea. That will kill your hunger. Fill your stomach with water. Drink hot ginger. 

 

Every morning, do a bit of weightlifting in your bedroom and around 100 press-ups and sit-ups. 

 

You'll start to lose body fat rapidly. You'll find getting below 17.5% body fat is extremely challenging but the first few kgs will be surprisingly easy.

 

Buy a body fat/BMI/muscle weight measurement machine. They're dirt cheap. 

 

You will feel massively more energetic and sleep better. And girls will be hitting on you, and your wife will be angry and try to get you fat again. 

 

What's the fun part?

[earlinclaifornia]

Aging is the main reason, I'm 72 and changes are expected. I too do fast walks 6 to 8 k but lost my gut three years back from my quitting two beer.s a day enjoyment. 

[Dart12]

4 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

sure, the rest of us just get fat

only ingredient bad in there is the sugar.  Ways around that. 

But yeah, as is...I'd get fat LOL

[Tropposurfer]

I relate and commiserate. There's no simple answer to mid section middle age weight gain. It's a metabolic certainty this will happen. However, this can  be spread can restrained so take heart.

I was an athlete of reasonable note and always had a six to eight pack, at age 55 I started to put on fat around my kidneys and had a small roll of fat across my belly, weight went from 76 up to 80 kgs.

I consulted nutritionists, doctors, naturopaths etc in Aussie and they all told me these same things.

 

The bad news is you will have to work out more, more regularly, more intensity in these, and more effectively to loose it. As we get older we need to work harder and more consistently to keep both fit, maintain muscle mass, and help out testosterone and potency levels up. Fit men perform better at sex. Hard consistent weight training which includes the large lower body muscles e.g. glutes, hammies has shown an improvement in both testosterone and performance.

As to sex after a big meal that's not a recipe for good performance.

 

First thing is cut way down on fried foods ... occasionally is okay but the unhealthy English breakfast is not a good idea. Substitute for poached eggs, small amount of brown high fibre toast, some grilled bacon, grilled tomato, smashed avocado! And 2 eggs, maybe 1 rash of bacon (not fatty) etc.

Cut way down on carbs ... as we move past middle age our bodies need far less carbs and more clean protein so cut way down on breads cakes, biscuits, pancakes, crumpets, rice. You need carbs yes, but far less than before the middle years.

 

One thing that really impacted my wellbeing was to reduce the size of my meals. A lot of westerners eat way way too much at a sitting. 

Never leave the table feeling full. Increase the veggies and fruits, if you don't eat a natural Greek style yoghurt then add this to your diet a few times a week at least. Maybe some no sugar added, non-toasted (fat!) muesli.

I have been eating an Aussie brand yoghurt called Farmers Union with vanilla bean in it and its delicious, natural, no added sugars which a lot of yoghurts have - bad. Yoghurt (lie fish sauce) is full of probiotics and is really good the the gut and digestion. 

Eat grilled meat n fish wherever possible. 

 

There's a rule about our metabolism and weight:

If you eat more calories than you burn you will store this as fat (either fat you can see or fat you can't [around the heart and other organs].

So, the solution is this;

Burn more than you consume AND to do this efficiently without needing to train 4 hours a day! raise the metabolic rate by heating the core/furnace as they say. This means to work intense short interval training, get hot, sweat, and raise the heart rate as high as you can for short intervals. Jogging 5 kms slowly is nothing compared to running 1 km up a hill hard n fast, a moderate effort bike ride compared to a few KM's fast hard leg burning.

 

If you can afford it get a personal trainer for a while and grow your knowledge and understanding.

 

I'd also suggest you add these activities (if you don't do them). You can substitute soe of these. No need to do ALL as some of these are mirrors of each other in effect.:

• Skipping for 20 minutes non-stop every day or every other day (like a boxer does) - plenty of UTube stuff on how to jump rope this way. You'll notice they skip in an interval, high load way. It's a perfect thing to do next to the pool, or during the rainy season.
• Sprinting where the ground is very flat so you can go as fast as you can without fear of injury - start with say 5 x 50 metre (less if you are not aerobically fit) and increase to 100 metre sprints - aim to be able to do 10. Run, push ups, jog back to start, repeat.
• Add push ups and sit up versions at each end of these sprints when your aerobic recovery gets good.
• Running stairs, slopes, a bush path type area where the ground requires you to change your cadence all the time. Maybe a beach too. Sprint in the soft sand - interval style with exercises at either end to vary the other type of sprinting you do.
• Take up boxing training twice a week
• Swimming - freestyle all the way with the goal of 1 km - once or twice a week. Easy on the joints, good for the back with the rotation action. Remember you must swim at a pace that loads the heart! You should get out of the water wasted more often than not!
• Circuit training if you like this calisthenic style - good strong boxing training will give you the same results.
• Take up yoga and do every day as the core of your wellness [first thing at dawn is best time] - mix with yoga-classes with others to learn how to practice and to share the experience.

Here's a biggie!

• Weight training at least 3 times a week - short fast interval style, and max-load slower style lifting - get a coach for this too to grow what you might know and to spot and critique your.

Weight training is proven to do a whole raft of amazing things for us;

• increase bone density
• prevent falls - proprioception increases with free weight training 
• increased testosterone and slowing and reversal of the natural lack of production of sperm as we age
• increased libido
• increased cardiovascular health
• lowers blood pressure
• relieves hypertension

 

 

 

[Tom89]

18 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

 

Drink coffee not tea

Why coffee instead of tea?

[Dart12]

oh.  No one has mentioned this:

drink lots of water all day.  Start with 1 to 1.5 L in the morning first thing.

[hotchilli]

19 hours ago, bbabythai said:

In summary, Im getting fat, my sex life is no good anymore and my morning tea tastes like <deleted>. My wife finds all this funny. Any suggestions?

thanks

Tell her her you get stage fright when playing in the "Albert Hall" and ar#e is huge, see if she still laughs.

[LukKrueng]

20 hours ago, bbabythai said:

My wife finds all this funny. Any suggestions?

Change wife?