Thailand to cease Sinovac vaccine use when stocks end this month

[mikebell]

16 hours ago, jacko45k said:

That will upset their Chinese friends....

Anutin will switch to Sinopharm - got to keep up his mortgage repayments.

[Guderian]

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Thailand used over 31.5 million Sinovac doses since February, starting with two doses to frontline workers, high-risk groups and residents of Phuket, a holiday island that reopened to tourists early in a pilot scheme.

It helps to explain why the rate of new infections in Phuket is running at around four times the national average. Nothing to do with tourism, just that the government gave everyone an ineffective vaccine.

Edited October 19, 2021 by Guderian

[0815]

16 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Sinovac isn't very good, but Sinopharm seems much better. Of course the gold standard is Pfizer.

 

I think Sinopharm followed up by AZ should be ok!

So you are a vaccine specialist ?

[DPKANKAN]

17 hours ago, Ohyesuare said:

They'll make it up by buying more faulty ATK test kits instead.

And Submarines!!????????????????????????????????

[overherebc]

16 hours ago, wadman said:

Thailand will be buying sinopharm vaccines instead. They are already buying it. Sinopharm has very little in terms of size effects, unlike AZ and Pfizer. Many Thais prefer sinopharm for that reason. 

 

Personally, I have had 1 AZ shot so far, with a fair bit of side effects. It does make me worry about what it is doing to my body (beside the protection against covid). 

Only side effect I had was a flair up of my psoriasis. Usually I get a couple of small patches but after my first AZ I got much larger patches with a bit of swelling I've never had before. It was something I had never heard of and a bit of searching showed it's uncommon but is being reported elsewhere and studied.  My usual cream did clear it but it took much longer than usual to do so. Interested to know if anyone else has had a similar experience.

Edited October 19, 2021 by overherebc

[wadman]

3 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

Define “significant”.
 

A bit oftiredness and/or sore arm for a couple of days isn’t significant. Of all the people I know in the UK, Singapore and Thailand, only one had “significant” side effects and that was over in a couple of days. They did feel bad for those two days though.

 

so based on my little study, your statement “AZ and Pfizer likely to result in significant side effects,” is entirely false.

 

agreed, sinovac seems even less likely to have significant side effects, but don’t play up what isn’t there on the others.

First, you say that AZ and Pfizer aren't likely to have significant side effects. In the very next sentence, you say that sinovac seems to have even less significant side effects! Lol! 

 

You are just playing with the wording here. How about this: sinovac and sinopharm's side effects are significantly less than those of AZ and Pfizer. 

[WingFat]

No mention why they are eschewing the Chinese vaccines...but silence on that matter speaks for itself.

[Henryford]

Brown envelopes finished?

[Jimbo2014]

Hey! - what will we use to dilute the AstraZenka now?

[tonray]

35 minutes ago, John Drake said:

Almost three weeks in and I'm still constantly dizzy, tired, and have recurring bouts of nausea. I wish I had never taken the AZ.

More likely something else than the vaccine after three weeks. After three weeks if you believe it's the vaccine...you should see a doctor as something is terribly wrong out of the ordinary range of symptoms.

[tonray]

4 minutes ago, Jimbo2014 said:

Hey! - what will we use to dilute the AstraZenka now?

Lao Khao would be my choice

[John Drake]

5 minutes ago, tonray said:

More likely something else than the vaccine after three weeks. After three weeks if you believe it's the vaccine...you should see a doctor as something is terribly wrong out of the ordinary range of symptoms.

It's tied to inner ear problems. Many people with a vestibular condition have been laid low by these vaccines. Here is just one topic with 643 pages of people having neurological and balance problems after taking the vaccines, especially Pfizer and Moderna. 

 https://vestibular.org/forum/dizziness/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/

[wadman]

12 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Only side effect I had was a flair up of my psoriasis. Usually I get a couple of small patches but after my first AZ I got much larger patches with a bit of swelling I've never had before. It was something I had never heard of and a bit of searching showed it's uncommon but is being reported elsewhere and studied.  My usual cream did clear it but it took much longer than usual to do so. Interested to know if anyone else has had a similar experience.

10 hours after my first AZ shot, my body got cold, lasted for about 12 hours. That's a fairly typical experience for AZ. But for me, my feet was the coldest part of my body. To the point, where I turned off the aircon, turned off the fan, and was still cold (and this is in Thailand). Covered my feet with a blanket, put socks on, still cold! Before, my feet were the least coldest part of my body. Usually, when I cover myself with a blanket, my feet stick out from underneath it. 

 

3 weeks later my feet don't feel as cold, but some of it is still there. The skin on my feet has a dry, slightly wrinkly feeling to it. 

 

This is in addition to some other side effects. 

[aBigSmile]

17 hours ago, wadman said:

Thailand will be buying sinopharm vaccines instead. They are already buying it. Sinopharm has very little in terms of size effects, unlike AZ and Pfizer. Many Thais prefer sinopharm for that reason. 

 

Personally, I have had 1 AZ shot so far, with a fair bit of side effects. It does make me worry about what it is doing to my body (beside the protection against covid). 

I can attest that some Thais prefer to pay for two shots of Sinopharm than to get the nRMA or viral vector products. 

Edited October 19, 2021 by aBigSmile

[mickyr55]

17 hours ago, Ohyesuare said:

They'll make it up by buying more faulty ATK test kits instead.

And place order for more submarines ????????????

[wadman]

9 minutes ago, tonray said:

More likely something else than the vaccine after three weeks. After three weeks if you believe it's the vaccine...you should see a doctor as something is terribly wrong out of the ordinary range of symptoms.

3 weeks after AZ I still have some low grade headaches and dizziness. Not terrible, but just enough to be annoying. If I was trucker (which I am not), I probably shouldn't be driving 10 hours a day with it. These type of symptoms are not atypical. 

[aBigSmile]

16 hours ago, Gold Star said:

Exactly. Which are produced in your body in advance of an infection in mass quantities ready for battle by using a vaccine. Why are the anti vaxxers so daft they can't understand this simple concept? 

The nMRA and viral vector vaccines only produce a minute sequence of the virus (the spike itself). Once the virus mutates, by way of altering that small sequence, the virus breaks through. That's the exact reason the Delta variant is successful in evading the existing vaccines -- its spikes are different enough from the Alfa and Beta strains, to which the vaccines have been originally designed. 

 

 

Edited October 19, 2021 by aBigSmile

[Xin Loi]

Large increase in Covid in and around the nearby villages. This past weekend the Amphur sent out a bus to inoculate all comers with Sinovax. I’m glad that one is disappearing, I was told by the hospital reps, I can only take the Phizer injection. So I will start looking for it but I trust my natural immunity first and foremost.

[Jeffr2]

10 minutes ago, Xin Loi said:

Large increase in Covid in and around the nearby villages. This past weekend the Amphur sent out a bus to inoculate all comers with Sinovax. I’m glad that one is disappearing, I was told by the hospital reps, I can only take the Phizer injection. So I will start looking for it but I trust my natural immunity first and foremost.

Too many who trusted their natural immunity are no longer with us. Jabs are our only way out of this mess right now.

[lolalol]

Why don't they order more?  They've been saying sinovac is a good vaccine.

[ivor bigun]

18 hours ago, GeorgeCross said:

hahaha wife told me today she and her friends are waiting until after the 19th to register for their vaccinations as pfizer and AZ will be on the menu ????

 

 

its on the menu ,wife gets it tomorrow az that is ,was waiting for moderna ,gave up.

[Smokey and the Bandit]

The Chinese are NOT going to like this!! LOL

[illy]

19 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Sinovac isn't very good, but Sinopharm seems much better. Of course the gold standard is Pfizer.

 

I think Sinopharm followed up by AZ should be ok!

Unless you are Australian, and this mixture is not accepted at all. Sinopharm not accepted either.

[illy]

Be aware that a mix of Sinovac and AZ is not accepted in many countries [or at least Australia].  

[Gold Star]

5 hours ago, peter zwart said:

Because they may assume that their own immune system will successfully fight the virus and in the future know what to do in the event of a next covid attack.

 

 

 

 

 

When running a marathon, and offered a 25 mile head start, it is sad that there are still a few who don't trust the officials, and begin from the starting line.

[mommysboy]

20 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Sinovac isn't very good, but Sinopharm seems much better. Of course the gold standard is Pfizer.

 

I think Sinopharm followed up by AZ should be ok!

Even Pfizer isn't as good as Pfizer these days! If you see what I mean.

 

 

[mommysboy]

3 hours ago, wadman said:

3 weeks after AZ I still have some low grade headaches and dizziness. Not terrible, but just enough to be annoying. If I was trucker (which I am not), I probably shouldn't be driving 10 hours a day with it. These type of symptoms are not atypical. 

'These type of symptoms are not atypical. '

 

After 3 weeks they are very atypical.  Maybe you are ill- perhaps just low sodium or something.  See a doctor.

[jkline1605]

20 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Sinovac isn't very good, but Sinopharm seems much better. Of course the gold standard is Pfizer.

 

I think Sinopharm followed up by AZ should be ok!

I understand Moderna is even more effective than Pfizer for delta variant 

[mommysboy]

5 hours ago, Khun Yogi said:

This whole vaccine roll out debacle just shows you how useless this Govt. really is. Tests in China proved that one shot of Sinovac was less that 25% effective against Delta, but the Govt kept buying it and using it at a higher cost than many other vaccines. Now those that had two shots of Sinovac need a third shot.!!!!!! The Govt knew about this problem 4-5 months ago but they still kept buying it and using it. Moderna is another debacle. Many people paid for this 3 months ago and it still isn't here. So Pinnochio and his puppets really need a reality check.

Looks like the standard dosing regime for all vaccines is going to 2 plus one 6 months later.

 

Sinovac is good enough.  It prevents serious illness and death- maybe not as much as AZ though.

[Uroller]

Just wanted to provide some positive feedback for a change???? My experience with the Pfizer registration in Phuket run by Bangkok Hospital was flawless. Arrived at Central Festival on assigned date and time, registered, jabbed and received appointment day and time for second jab 2 weeks later. Showed up for second jab early ( about an hour), no problem, filled in a short form then went into the main area, my details were input into the system and I moved in for the jab. Waited the 30 mins after the jab then received my certificate and on my way????Kudos to Bangkok hospital and all the staff for a job well done????????

The one little issue was the first jab registration as unregistered people tried, some were successful in gate crashing the party (Farangs), but didn’t ruin the fine work by all????
As a side note I didn’t want to get vaccinated but unfortunately needing to travel forced the issue and at least I got Pfizer.