Delta Plus COVID variant may be 15% more transmissible than Delta strain, experts say

[webfact]

 

Delta Plus, which is a sub-variant of the Delta strain of COVID-19, may be 15% more transmissible than the original Delta variant and is responsible for increasing COVID-19 infections in the United Kingdom, said Dr. Chalermchai Boonyaleephan, vice chairman of the Senate health committee, citing preliminary studies. 

 

Delta Plus cases account for 6% of new infections in the UK, but the sub-variant is still regarded as a “Variant under Investigation” (VUI), and not yet a “Variant of Concern” (VOC) as there is still insufficient information about its ability to cause sickness or its vaccine resistance, said Dr. Chalermchai.

 

The first case of Delta Plus in Thailand was found in the central province of Ayutthaya in September but was revealed only yesterday (Monday).

 

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[Deli]

And shall we hide in a blue roofed  cave now ?

[BangkokReady]

5 minutes ago, Deli said:

And shall we hide in a blue roofed  cave now ?

What is a blue roofed cave?

[ThailandRyan]

29 minutes ago, webfact said:

The first case of Delta Plus in Thailand was found in the central province of Ayutthaya in September but was revealed only yesterday (Monday).

So the case was found over a month ago and they thought best to hide the facts from the populace.  These folks really are special needs children.  One has to wonder how many more of the cases are out there.  Now I know why Thailand decided to open up and then the UK placed them on the travel list, yep no one outside of this Government knew the real story.  Now lets see what's happens.

[mancub]

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

So the case was found over a month ago and they thought best to hide the facts from the populace.  These folks really are special needs children.  One has to wonder how many more of the cases are out there.  Now I know why Thailand decided to open up and then the UK placed them on the travel list, yep no one outside of this Government knew the real story.  Now lets see what's happens.

What I think we may see is, in Kiwi-speak, referred to as " sheet happens"

[RafPinto]

If there was only ONE  case since September, what are they worried about?

[Petey11]

2 minutes ago, RafPinto said:

If there was only ONE  case since September, what are they worried about?

One case discovered but now revealed 18 cases, and given the low amount of testing and genome sequencing, anyone's guess as to how many cases.

[dinsdale]

It may be more transmissable but the real problem lies in is it a vaccine breakthrough variant and is it more severe. I've got a good idea to test this out. Have a really big New Years show that costs Bt100,000,000 (whilst people are starving) and find out. Worked well for Sonkran.

[Sametboy2019]

Anyone see a pattern occurring here? Vaccine and new variant. Well it's called a vaccine. Helps not to kill you but you can still spread it of course.

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, Sametboy2019 said:

Anyone see a pattern occurring here? Vaccine and new variant. Well it's called a vaccine. Helps not to kill you but you can still spread it of course.

The pattern I see since the beginning is an evolving virus.

[Nojohndoe]

May be more....?.! The game continues . Interesting that after a proliferation of variants (of note or concern) this is the only one made public in quite some time!

[Virt]

22 minutes ago, Sametboy2019 said:

Anyone see a pattern occurring here? Vaccine and new variant. Well it's called a vaccine. Helps not to kill you but you can still spread it of course.

Virus do what virus is supposed to do.

It copy itself and quite often that copy is not an exact copy of the original.

Some of those mutations are more dangerous, but most are not.

 

Nothing to do with the vaccines.

 

If we didn't have any vaccines, we would have more mutations, since more people would be infected and the virus had to copy itself a lot more times.

[RichardColeman]

42 minutes ago, Sametboy2019 said:

Anyone see a pattern occurring here? Vaccine and new variant. Well it's called a vaccine. Helps not to kill you but you can still spread it of course.

Only people getting richer are the vaccine companies, the people making PPE and test kits. Might be worth seeing who invested in these companies months before the pandemic !

[mark131v]

All this shows is that Thailand needs to get their <deleted> in gear and get vaccines into arms!

 

The UK and most likely most of the world has/will soon have the new variant and whilst it may/may not be more transmissible that's irrelevant if you have been vaccinated you are far less likely to get seriously ill or die, the UK is essentially open for business due to vaccination with good quality vaccine that focused on the elderly and vulnerable

 

Thailand on the other hand has a bumbling circus of clowns running the asylum with sub par vaccines and little regard for the elderly and vulnerable so that makes their ineptitude potentially costly but they don't care the eejits in charge are all vaccinated and have private health insurance, criminal really...

[IAMHERE]

13 hours ago, RafPinto said:

If there was only ONE  case since September, what are they worried about?

Worried that it is home grown and can not be blamed on a farang, is my best guess.  Hard to blame on a farang with the protocols that are in place for a farang to come into the country.

[spidermike007]

Lock up this creepy doctor for instilling yet more fear, into the minds of the general public. Isn't fear mongering a crime? If not, it should be. The people are already whipped up into a frenzy, without lowlife creeps like this guy adding to the mess. His contribution is totally useless and unnecessary. 

 

This is NOT the Zombie Apocalypse. This is NOT Bubonic Plague. 

[hotchilli]

18 hours ago, Deli said:

And shall we hide in a blue roofed  cave now ?

Nothing wrong with my man cave,it's fitted out quite nicely.

[TooMuchTime]

People still falling for the variant trick?

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, TooMuchTime said:

People still falling for the variant trick?

Do you care to explain your comment, or did you mean because delta has mutated to a + now it has not learned any new tricks and is just a name for tracking purposes only?

 

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/08/13/1031844/delta-plus-covid-variant-naming/

If you’ve been worried by recent news stories about a strain of covid called “delta plus,” it may freak you out to hear that scientists just expanded the delta family from four variants to 13. 

Please take a deep breath. Scientists would really like you to understand that there’s no evidence delta has learned any new tricks, and these new names are for helping keep track of covid’s evolution—not nine new reasons to panic.

 

And many researchers are also really, really hoping you’ll stop saying “delta plus.”

“The name ‘delta plus’ is completely incorrect, because it gives the perception that this will cause more damage,” says Anderson Brito, a member of the Pango Lineage Designation Committee, which assigns scientific names like B.1.1.7 to new branches of the virus. “So far, we have no evidence any of the mutations affect behavior compared to the original delta variant.”

 

It might be helpful to think of covid as a tree. Delta is like a thick branch on that tree—a big family of viruses that share a common ancestor and some of the same mutations, which let them spread between people more quickly. When the big branch grows new twigs, which happens all the time, scientists keep track by using technical names that include numbers and letters. But a new scientific name doesn’t mean those viruses will act any differently from the branch they grew from—and if one of those new branches does start to change its behavior, it gets a new Greek letter, not a “plus.”

[RafPinto]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

Nothing wrong with my man cave,it's fitted out quite nicely.

Yes.This room and the GF equipped with a walkie talkie.

Sweetie, I am hungry.

Sweetie, I am thursty.

 

Reply: yes boss, I am on my way.

[AgMech Cowboy]

Colds and Flus... We've known about the different strains of flu for many years. Makes you wonder why they didn't get better distinctions; bird flue, swine flu, avian flu, influenza viruses: A, B, C and D. Human influenza A and B viruses cause seasonal epidemics of disease (known as the flu season). 

 

I wonder how many times the common cold has mutated and why we don't hear all the hodge podge of different variants. We have certainly gotten a bit of an education (if you've been paying attention) in the past 18-20 months about virology.

[RafPinto]

And soon the germans come.

 

2 weeks ago, around 5-6000 cases a day.

Yesterday, 23000

 

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[ThailandRyan]

33 minutes ago, Boedog said:

Hear we go again this has been long overdue the old Delta variant had run its course, wait for the Governments around the world listen to big Pharma and say previous vaccines aren't any good against the new variant so all line up again for a new improved vaccine, in Australia people who have been doubled jabbed already are getting told its time for your booster shot and if you don't you are same as the unvaccinated, the covid circus rolls on

Only an anti vaxxer would believe that. Boosters are a way of life for many who protect themselves against viruses and types of illnesses like TB, Hep B, the Flu, Pneumonia and hell even Shingles. However, if you believe your immune system will keep you from that pine box or the crematorium well then  more power to you.

Edited October 27, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[Cake Monster]

23 hours ago, webfact said:

Delta Plus, which is a sub-variant of the Delta strain of COVID-19, may be 15% more transmissible than the original Delta variant and is responsible for increasing COVID-19 infections in the United Kingdom, said Dr. Chalermchai Boonyaleephan, vice chairman of the Senate health committee, citing preliminary studies. 

 

And the original Delta Variant was only 20 % more Infectious than Alpha.

No need to say anything else.

 

[david555]

We shall find out if so as 15% more transmisable when "the flood gates of tourisme " ????... opens 1 November ????

 

Yep !..here we go again .....

 

( meaning the rise of infections ....not the re- birth of Patts nightlife ????)

 

 

 

Edited October 27, 2021 by david555

[Scott]

Off-topic posts removed. 

 

[spidermike007]

9 hours ago, honcho said:

are you sure we are not all going to become zombies?

Well, according to the retrogrades, this is a possibility. But, as we know, this is not Bubonic plague. Just a very bad virus. 

[Boedog]

20 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Only an anti vaxxer would believe that. Boosters are a way of life for many who protect themselves against viruses and types of illnesses like TB, Hep B, the Flu, Pneumonia and hell even Shingles. However, if you believe your immune system will keep you from that pine box or the crematorium well then  more power to you.

I don't ever remember get 3 flu shots in a year before, but each to there own, you seem like the person that believed the media when people were apparently dropping dead in the streets from covid

[ThailandRyan]

3 hours ago, Boedog said:

I don't ever remember get 3 flu shots in a year before, but each to there own, you seem like the person that believed the media when people were apparently dropping dead in the streets from covid

Your a little out of the loop. Annual Flu Booster, Annual Pneumococcal Vaccination, every 5 years TB Booster, Hep B series 3 shots in 12 weeks and then an annual Tither check and a booster as needed every 5 years.  Seems that the Covid vaccinations are very similar to Hep B inoculations. 

[spidermike007]

On 10/27/2021 at 9:22 AM, ThailandRyan said:

Do you care to explain your comment, or did you mean because delta has mutated to a + now it has not learned any new tricks and is just a name for tracking purposes only?

 

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/08/13/1031844/delta-plus-covid-variant-naming/

If you’ve been worried by recent news stories about a strain of covid called “delta plus,” it may freak you out to hear that scientists just expanded the delta family from four variants to 13. 

Please take a deep breath. Scientists would really like you to understand that there’s no evidence delta has learned any new tricks, and these new names are for helping keep track of covid’s evolution—not nine new reasons to panic.

 

And many researchers are also really, really hoping you’ll stop saying “delta plus.”

“The name ‘delta plus’ is completely incorrect, because it gives the perception that this will cause more damage,” says Anderson Brito, a member of the Pango Lineage Designation Committee, which assigns scientific names like B.1.1.7 to new branches of the virus. “So far, we have no evidence any of the mutations affect behavior compared to the original delta variant.”

 

It might be helpful to think of covid as a tree. Delta is like a thick branch on that tree—a big family of viruses that share a common ancestor and some of the same mutations, which let them spread between people more quickly. When the big branch grows new twigs, which happens all the time, scientists keep track by using technical names that include numbers and letters. But a new scientific name doesn’t mean those viruses will act any differently from the branch they grew from—and if one of those new branches does start to change its behavior, it gets a new Greek letter, not a “plus.”

Viruses have been mutating since the beginning of time. What makes this unique is the lovely designations each mutation is given, along with the amount of press each "celebrity variation" is given. And of course the huge degree of fear mongering each one is accorded.