Thailand reopening: There are no foreigners and no foreign flights at all - at least in the north

[freedomnow]

I think the front-end of the trip is so arduous for anyone, nevermind the 1 night hotel.

 

They have one infographic out there, but generally on the steps

the official site is a hodgepodge of steps all in text.

 

They need to convey the steps to entry in an easier visual manner.

 

They take 2nd from India in bureaucractic nightmarish ever-changing rules.

 

 

 

 

[robsamui]

1 hour ago, Barefootknobby said:

I can’t believe people are even bothering commenting on this nonsense, if only they could swallow the comments and admit they haven’t got a clue would be a step in the right direction:-)

55555 - you must be new to Thailand! (I have to assume you're talking about The Thai administration, and not the people commenting here? Your post is ambiguous.)

Spot the impossibility in this sentence . . . "if only they could swallow the comments and admit they haven’t got a clue".

Any Thai, at any level from a roadsweeper to the Prime Minister would rather slice off body parts than admit that they are incompetent (or wrong about something). Loss of face is part of their genetic make up.

It's the main reason that Tland is in the s***t right now.

Edited November 1, 2021 by robsamui

[NanaSomchai]

18 minutes ago, digger70 said:

All people ain't Stupid and Don't want to jump through All the Hoops that Thailand hold up for them plus the extra costs.

This. So much this.

[NanaSomchai]

55 minutes ago, Tarteso said:

They wanted quality tourists, billionaires, not backpackers, not dirty falangos ... what you claim, you already got it… 0 TURIST,  by now.

Offer us 69 baht draft beers while watching some sexy bird (that you can't barfine, it's just arousal) dancing on a stretch pole with loud blaring music while playing connect 4 with another (barfinable) bird that we can bring "home" for 600 baht THEN we will be back, for sure... until then... shove your quarantine, your SHA+ and your ASQ where the sun doesn't shine.

 

What I described above is what Thailand is known for and that's all it'll ever be.

 

All this "we want quality tourists" doesn't work, it never has and it never will.

 

Som nam na.

[daejung]

7 hours ago, NanaSomchai said:

I give it two weeks tops, about 15 days until they start dropping the ASQ/SHA bullsh!t, THEN and only THEN people will start flying in again... eventually.

But even if they drop that <deleted>, people will wait to be sure they won't change again later.

We cannot rely on what they announce.

[NanaSomchai]

6 minutes ago, robsamui said:

Any Thai, at any level from a roadsweeper to the Prime Minister would rather slice off body parts than admit that they are incompetent (or wrong about something). Loss of face is part of their genetic make up.

This.

 

This a hundred times, a thousand times, a billion times.

 

Loss of face, moving forward, today the First of November shall be forever officially known as the "Som nam na day".

[JustAnotherHun]

38 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

I thought people just arrived, got their VOA and extended it at the IO?

 

What type of visa are they applying for, Non-0?

 

 

I think TV or Non-O. But no matter wich one, you won't get an appointment in different countries right now. All slots fully booked.

[George Aylesham]

7 hours ago, smedly said:

It has been repeated on here for weeks that very few foreign tourists are willing to put up with their nonsense requirements that seem to be designed to gouge money before anyone sets foot in Thailand never mind when when they arrive.

 

Think again Prayuth 

 

Take a long hard look at "Green" requirements in the UK and you might get some idea of how it should be done 

 

Oh and Thailand is not open - popular  tourist destinations like Pattaya are 90% shut and shuttered with no sign of that changing any time soon.

And I ordered a beer with my lunch today, 1 November. Sorry, forbidden

[Mavideol]

where are the 7,000 that were supposed to arrive today .....555 evaporated ????

[vinci]

they are delusional thinking there will be plenty of tourist with all the requirement, nobody will wasted their time, everybody is sticking close to home.

[JustAnotherHun]

1 hour ago, mancub said:

What percentage of 'Tourists' do you believe can holiday for more than 30days ? Obviously millions from numerous places!

 

 

Tens of thousands of snowbirds from pre covid times for example. And if there was not huge interest in such visas, it would be easy to get applying appointments.

But ok, no Westerners want to come back to Thailand, TV and Non-O do not exist and the world is flat ????

[robsamui]

[3NUMBAS]

pilots are hard to come  by as many retired and none available for the forseeable future

[3NUMBAS]

i know some elderly aussi sex tourists who are planning a trip in march but they spend very little money as theyre cheap  charlies on oap money 

[piewarmer]

I came to Thailand for sex and drugs and rock and roll. none are available right now..why come?

[Jaxxper]

Steps back in amazement !! I wonder why that would be ? 

[Deli]

Did they expect people sitting at the airports allaround the world waiting for Thailand to open up again wth funny rules applied ? Fantastic job done by the clowns in BKK wearing tinsel.

[thailand49]

Well guess they will be able to deal with the surge with no foreigner visitors won't have them to blame for the surge they will just have to make due with the illegal immigrants.

[Bangkok Barry]

5 hours ago, kotsak said:

6 hours ago, harada said:

An inactive post for this bloke.

Wasn't he already? ????

Unfortunately not.

[dallen52]

And Thailand pass has crashed already

Pathetic...

[dallen52]

8 hours ago, smedly said:

It has been repeated on here for weeks that very few foreign tourists are willing to put up with their nonsense requirements that seem to be designed to gouge money before anyone sets foot in Thailand never mind when when they arrive.

 

Think again Prayuth 

 

Take a long hard look at "Green" requirements in the UK and you might get some idea of how it should be done 

 

Oh and Thailand is not open - popular  tourist destinations like Pattaya are 90% shut and shuttered with no sign of that changing any time soon.

And the Thailand pass has crashed already.

[Bangkok Barry]

2 hours ago, JustAnotherHun said:

Have a look at the appointment systems of thai embassies and consulates in different countries: Waiting lists for two months and more to apply for a visa.

That's the reason there are no arrivals, isn't it! Plenty of places for people to visit without waiting months for 'permission' to come and fill the hotels and bars and spend their money. Jeez! They just don't get it.

[Charlie Halliday]

Oh wow aren't we all shocked. We've been saying for weeks that nobody in their right mind will risk the testing on arrival and 6 days later. The 6k people arriving today at Suvarnabhumi are mostly Thais returning home after being stranded for 2 years. My daughter who we haven't seen for almost 3 years is desperate to visit but won't risk the current conditions. Who wants to be dragged to a hospital for 2 weeks. Come on Prayut, the only chance is to follow Singapore, Europe and now Australia. Just open to all double vaxxed people. Economy flights from UK at this time of year used to be around 500 quid. Now they're around GBP1k plus with the PCR and SHA Hotel and insurance. It's another 500quid. So just to get here is 1500 quid and then you may end up in hospital. Forget it. Another high season gone and millions out of work. 

[raccos21]

If the government wants to keep up these complicated policies and want to rip off the foreigners at the entering point then I guess I can see how the Thailand tourism industry will be in the future.

 

 

[brucegoniners]

Gee, maybe when the government makes their decisions one week prior to opening it might just impact people's plans...

[elektrified]

4 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

Went to Airport Plaza today.  It was packed. I would estimate 99% locals. Saw a few foreign faces here and there.  The big even today looked like teenagers getting vaccinated in the town hall portion of the mall.  Otherwise another Monday in Chiang Mai.  November 1, 2021 "The Grand Re-Opening"???  Well, maybe it will be better on December 1, 2022??  The local economy will live and die with how much locals spend or not spend.  

I'm there at least 3 days each week. It is rarely "packed". It was busy today because around 6,000 students were vaccinated today. They started giving the vaccines at 6:00 in the morning when it was pitch dark! Most of the people who "packed" the place were parents and family of students.

[johnhender]

What I fail to understand is why Thai tourist "leaders" don't go on travel forums to get a feel for what tourist are thinking the cost benefit ratio of going to Thai is a negative there are better cheaper places to go just getting their is a pain add the taxi's, quarantine overpriced testing etc. it just isn't worth it unless you are desperate. "Saving Face" is what holds Thailand back,  A millionaire I know lost his business but he dealt with it with dignity he could have lied and no one would have said anything But he didn't lie to himself like a lot of Thai's do. I wont be returning till these silly requirements get cancelled. You would have thought that any smart country would have used this down time to get their tourist sector sorted out, Get rid of the rip offs, Taxi's, double pricing, clean the streets and fix the street flooding, get the airport straightened out etc. But it seems Thailand moved in reverse. Are the leaders of Thailand so obtuse they can't see what is going on around them. They miss this high season for tourist and it will be a very long year for a lot of people, But it isn't like the rich every cared for the poor thai's anyway they were just something to be used and exploited.

Thailand wants to be a high value tourist country I spend $4.5K a trip average Yet when I go there nothing is ever right Long lines on entry, indifferent immigration agent slow walking your entry, slow baggage,  I have yet to stay in a hotel room that is correct 1st time out or not get sick from food, wealthy travelers wont put up with this or their other nonsense  I want to return why do they make this so hard there are so many other places I can go and in December I will be going to them 

[vVDB]

80% of people unfortunately come for the nights (drink, drugs, sex ...)

Thailand only wants quality tourists so only the other 20%.

That 20% will not spend more than they did in 2019.

The tourism industry will collapse.

(If the 80% bothers you put 70% or 60% but the result will be the same.)

Edited November 1, 2021 by vVDB
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[soalbundy]

8 hours ago, NanaSomchai said:

There we go, as I said in another thread; Massive loss of face incoming.

 

I give it two weeks tops, about 15 days until they start dropping the ASQ/SHA bullsh!t, THEN and only THEN people will start flying in again... eventually.

 

I doubt that, long haul holidays require some planning in advance not a few weeks before the Christmas season, if they haven't got their <deleted> together now then the main holiday season is dead already. Add to that that the financial situation of many westerners (especially the Brits with higher taxation and higher mortgages and rents in the offing) will deter many from taking a winter holiday at all.

[Flink]

8 hours ago, hioctane said:

I suspect more will be flying into areas with alcohol first. How can you realistically reopen to the world without reopening domestically?

Realistically, no, but since when have TAT and the government here ever dealt in reality?