Back to UK for health treatment..

[Worldplus]

Last December I caught TB... I was shocked and after 12 mths I'm on 18 tabs a day and feeling <deleted>...

 

My blood sugar too is up and down and taking meds for that.. I've lost 18kgs this year...I'm 63.. 

 

I'm thinking of going back to UK for proper treatment..

 

What's the implications for leaving Thailand and say 2 or 3ths coming back...I've had 2 covid jabs and got a certificate..

 

TIA

[scubascuba3]

No TB implication, how did you catch it?

Edited November 21, 2021 by scubascuba3

[MUSTYJACK]

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I'm thinking of going back to UK for proper treatment..

Are you resident in Thailand, and if so are you entitled to free healthcare in the UK?

 

If you are not entitled to free healthcare are you aware of the costs involved?

[Worldplus]

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

No TB implication, how did you catch it?

Not sure...off a local for sure

[Worldplus]

1 minute ago, MUSTYJACK said:

Are you resident in Thailand, and if so are you entitled to free healthcare in the UK?

 

If you are not entitled to free healthcare are you aware of the costs involved?

Well..  I presume I am covered by UK healthcare...not lived in UK for 30 yrs..

 

I am British with a UK passport..

[Oblomov]

8 minutes ago, Worldplus said:

Well..  I presume I am covered by UK healthcare...not lived in UK for 30 yrs..

 

I am British with a UK passport..

So you've paid ZERO in National Insurance for 30 years yet you want to fly over and get free treatment? And they say migrants are a drain on resources - they work (on low wages) and pay NI and taxes - get your treatment in Thailand where you live 

[Upnotover]

21 minutes ago, Worldplus said:

Well..  I presume I am covered by UK healthcare...not lived in UK for 30 yrs..

 

I am British with a UK passport..

If you can demonstrate that you have returned permanently then you are covered.  See below from the NHS;

 

Prove you are eligible for free healthcare

The first time you have treatment anywhere in the NHS you will need to bring proof that you are eligible for free healthcare. You should bring at least two of the following documents:

Residence in the UK

• Proof of your purchase of property or a tenancy agreement
• Recent utility or council tax bill payment
• UK bank account showing recent UK activity

Employment status

• Payslip or letter from employer
• Bank statement
• Unique tax reference number
• Documentation from your local job centre to show that you are receiving job-seekers allowance

You can also use documents that prove you no longer live abroad. For example, paperwork to show that you have:

• sold or rented your house in your previous country of residence
• terminated employment or studies in your previous country of residence
• shipped goods or transferred assets to the UK
• ended insurance policies and utility contracts

[blackprince]

18 minutes ago, Worldplus said:

Well..  I presume I am covered by UK healthcare...not lived in UK for 30 yrs..

 

I am British with a UK passport..

Sorry to hear about your illness.

 

"The NHS is a residence-based healthcare system, so British expats aren’t automatically entitled to medical treatment. It’s worth noting that you must have private medical insurance to cover you, as if you don’t you will face a charge at 150% of the NHS national tariff for any care you receive."

 

https://www.thefrygroup.co.uk/insights/are-british-expats-entitled-to-nhs-treatment/

 

Thai government healthcare can be very good. I recently chose a Thai government hospital over 2 private hospitals because the facilities that I needed were better and the service was much better in the government hospital. It was covered by my insurance so cost was not a factor for me.

 

I'd enquire at your nearest main hospital before deciding to go back to the UK.

 

Best of luck

 

 

[Worldplus]

19 minutes ago, Oblomov said:

So you've paid ZERO in National Insurance for 30 years yet you want to fly over and get free treatment? And they say migrants are a drain on resources - they work (on low wages) and pay NI and taxes - get your treatment in Thailand where you live 

I have paid 27 yrs ni.. I had an engineering business..

[theoldgit]

41 minutes ago, Worldplus said:

Well..  I presume I am covered by UK healthcare...not lived in UK for 30 yrs..

 

I am British with a UK passport..

 

You are not covered for free NHS Treatment unless you are actually resident in the UK, it doesn't matter if you left the UK thirty years ago, or thirty days ago, unless to can prove that you're actually resident, apart for certain conditions, you're charged 150% of the actual cost of treatment, even if you're a UK taxpayer.

NHS Trusts are obliged by law to implement the charges.

 

If you can prove that your returning to the UK to settle, you're covered from day one.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-the-nhs-charges-overseas-visitors-for-nhs-hospital-care/how-the-nhs-charges-overseas-visitors-for-nhs-hospital-care

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/742251/guidance-on-implementing-the-overseas-visitor-charging-regulations-may-2018.pdf

[Mac Mickmanus]

You will need a UK home address to register with a G.P , you will need a utility bill or the equivalent with your name in the address 

[theoldgit]

Troll post removed.

[BritManToo]

Good luck OP,

I'd just go back and not mention ever being outside the UK.

They probably won't ask if you don't volunteer the information. 

 

TB can be hard to treat, you might be back there for a long time.

[scubascuba3]

Turn up in a dinghy they'll treat you straight away

[Mac Mickmanus]

53 minutes ago, Oblomov said:

So you've paid ZERO in National Insurance for 30 years yet you want to fly over and get free treatment? And they say migrants are a drain on resources - they work (on low wages) and pay NI and taxes - get your treatment in Thailand where you live 

Well, I suppose that its nice that the Christmas spirt hasn't started too early this year

[IvorBiggun2]

29 minutes ago, theoldgit said:

You are not covered for free NHS Treatment unless you are actually resident in the UK, it doesn't matter if you left the UK thirty years ago, or thirty days ago, unless to can prove that you're actually resident, apart for certain conditions, you're charged 150% of the actual cost of treatment, even if you're a UK taxpayer.

What a load of tosh. Fly into the UK, UK citizen or not, and go to your nearest hospital emergency department and you will be treated free of charge. Them's the rules.

[geisha]

Why not go to a Thai hospital ? I’m sure they are well versed in TB. 

[Upnotover]

3 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

What a load of tosh. Fly into the UK, UK citizen or not, and go to your nearest hospital emergency department and you will be treated free of charge. Them's the rules.

Correct.  For an A&E emergency.  Hardly applicable in this case.

[geisha]

Whatever, it is strictly forbidden to travel with a TB infection. 

[IvorBiggun2]

4 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

Hardly applicable in this case.

Oh but it is classed as an emergency condition. Another person talkin out his *****.

 

 

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Is TB a notifiable disease in the UK?

 

TB is a notifiable disease in the UK. By law, doctors must report suspected and confirmed cases of TB within three days to their local health protection team.

 

 

[Chris.B]

Wish I could lose 18 kgs but I don't want TB to do it! ????

[HighPriority]

8 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

Correct.  For an A&E emergency.  Hardly applicable in this case.

They may decide that someone of no fixed abode wandering the streets with TB is an emergency though…

OP, you sound unhappy with your treatment so far for TB in Thailand…? Have you tried a different Dr/hospital ?

[Chris.B]

9 minutes ago, geisha said:

Whatever, it is strictly forbidden to travel with a TB infection. 

That make sense. Is it contagious?

[blackprince]

7 minutes ago, geisha said:

Whatever, it is strictly forbidden to travel with a TB infection. 

A very good point. The link below is from the USA but there are plenty of others.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/02/health/tuberculosis-us-airways/index.html

 

Given that TB is a lung infection, and Covid is a lung infection, and the legal health and moral issues of flying with TB, and the fact that the OP does not qualify for free NHS care. I'd have thought it's better to get treatment in Thailand ????

 

[Chris.B]

25 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

What a load of tosh. Fly into the UK, UK citizen or not, and go to your nearest hospital emergency department and you will be treated free of charge. Them's the rules.

Agreed, a while ago a lot of NHS staff including Doctors were saying they wouldn't enforce charges on health tourists to the UK because they didn't think it was right!  

Edited November 21, 2021 by Chris.B

[IvorBiggun2]

9 minutes ago, HighPriority said:

They may decide that someone of no fixed abode wandering the streets with TB is an emergency

Once again. You do not have to have a fixed abode to receive free treatment on the UK NHS. Just being in the UK qualifies you.

[Oblomov]

28 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Well, I suppose that its nice that the Christmas spirt hasn't started too early this year

Members of our family and friends work in the struggling UK health service, which now has a waiting list of 6 million +  people who are tax payers and residents in UK, so instead of idiotic comments like yours, have a bit of sense and ask yourself why someone should fly in for treatment, after no contributions for 30 years - No doubt you think the magic money tree applies to health services. Idiotic argument 

[blackprince]

27 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

What a load of tosh. Fly into the UK, UK citizen or not, and go to your nearest hospital emergency department and you will be treated free of charge. Them's the rules.

"The NHS is a residence-based healthcare system, so British expats aren’t automatically entitled to medical treatment. It’s worth noting that you must have private medical insurance to cover you, as if you don’t you will face a charge at 150% of the NHS national tariff for any care you receive."

 

Them's the rules.

 

 

https://www.thefrygroup.co.uk/insights/are-british-expats-entitled-to-nhs-treatment/

 

 

[IvorBiggun2]

1 minute ago, blackprince said:

Them's the rules

Wrong wrong wrong.

[HighPriority]

2 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Once again. You do not have to have a fixed abode to receive free treatment on the UK NHS. Just being in the UK qualifies you.

????

once again… I made no claim that a fixed address was required.

Its an infectious disease being the pertinent point.