Back to UK for health treatment..

[IvorBiggun2]

4 minutes ago, blackprince said:

"The NHS is a residence-based healthcare system, so British expats aren’t automatically entitled to medical treatment. It’s worth noting that you must have private medical insurance to cover you, as if you don’t you will face a charge at 150% of the NHS national tariff for any care you receive."

But if it's deemed an emergency you will be treated free of charge.

[blackprince]

Just now, IvorBiggun2 said:

Wrong wrong wrong.

I've provided linked evidence 3 times, and rational argument. You've indulged in monosyllables.

 

Feel free to PM the OP with your bank details so that he know's where to direct the NHS to for payment.

 

Unless of course you are suggesting he lies to the NHS about where he's been residing. That would be a criminal charge of fraud on top of the 150% charge for treatment.

 

 

[IvorBiggun2]

2 minutes ago, HighPriority said:

once again… I made no claim that a fixed address was required.

Its an infectious disease being the pertinent point.

I never said you did. Get yer facts right.

[IvorBiggun2]

1 minute ago, blackprince said:

Feel free to PM the OP with your bank details so that he know's where to direct the NHS to for payment.

 

I was in the Uk 2 years back. The missus thought she swallowed a fish bone. Nothing found in her throat. Upon requesting a bill I was told 'No charge'. Registered abode Isaan. 

[Boyn]

After working in the UK for 50 years and paying national insurance you would think i would be entitled to health care in the UK for the rest of my life but my doctor told me that if i move to Thailand i would not, NHS is a residence based service ie. you have to live here

[blackprince]

1 minute ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

But if it's deemed an emergency you will be treated free of charge.

They won't watch him die true, it's Britain after all old chap.

 

They'll just bill you 150% when you wake up as per my link twice here, and as per the NHS webpage that I linked for a different OP a few days ago.

 

That's assuming there's an available space in a ward anyway - everything's a bit crunched up now because of covid, right ????

 

An impecunious non resident setting out to defraud the NHS will not be top of their list. Especially when he reveals he's knowingly flown around the world with TB - see my earlier post on the latter.

 

[IvorBiggun2]

1 minute ago, Boyn said:

NHS is a residence based service ie. you have to live here

If it is deemed an emergency the treatment is free. Can yous people not understand that?

[IvorBiggun2]

Just now, blackprince said:

They'll just bill you 150% when you wake up as per my link twice here, and as per the NHS webpage that I linked for a different OP a few days ago.

You are spouting complete hogwash.

[Pravda]

1 minute ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

If it is deemed an emergency the treatment is free. Can yous people not understand that?

 

It seems you're the only one without a clue here.

[IvorBiggun2]

 

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Treatment in A&E departments and at GP surgeries remains free for all.

Please read the link page.     https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-the-nhs-charges-overseas-visitors-for-nhs-hospital-care/how-the-nhs-charges-overseas-visitors-for-nhs-hospital-care

 

I accept apologies     

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Treatment in A&E departments and at GP surgeries remains free for all.

 

Edited November 21, 2021 by IvorBiggun2

[blackprince]

6 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

 

Please read the link page.     https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-the-nhs-charges-overseas-visitors-for-nhs-hospital-care/how-the-nhs-charges-overseas-visitors-for-nhs-hospital-care

 

I accept apologies

I suggest you read your own link and then learn what "ordinarily resident" means.

 

The OP is not "ordinarily resident" in the UK as is clear from his first post, and hasn't been for a very long time.

 

The OP will learn the hard way what "ordinarily resident" means if he falls for the nonsense you are proposing.

[Chris.B]

9 minutes ago, Pravda said:

 

It seems you're the only one without a clue here.

No, I don't agree. I knew emergency treatment is free on the NHS. As for the other poster, do you think they are going to let a TB sufferer roam the streets without being treated? No, of course they are not!

[Bkk Brian]

Infectious diseases like TB are free to treat regardless of status, they are under the exemption which includes emergency care, 

 

Exemptions

There is no charge for certain types of treatment such as A&E outpatient treatment, treatment for infectious diseases specified in the regulations, treatment of sexually transmitted infections and family planning services.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-the-nhs-charges-overseas-visitors-for-nhs-hospital-care/how-the-nhs-charges-overseas-visitors-for-nhs-hospital-care

[MUSTYJACK]

You need to be registered with a GP to be seen, to register with a GP you will need an address and proof that you are resident there.

 

Turn up at A and E as a tourist with a broken leg and they will X ray it and treat it.

 

Turn up at A and E asking for treatment for TB and they will want to know where and how you were diagnosed and which GP you are registered with. Treatment is with tablets over a period of many months. The hospital will not give out 6 months supply of tablets, they will instruct your GP to prescribe medication and monitor your progress. Normally patients start feeling better after a few weeks of medication

 

Treatment will certainly be cheaper in Thailand than spending months in the UK and the distinct possibility of having to pay for the health care, and travelling on a plane after a TB diagnosis is putting the health of every other passenger at risk. 

 

If you are losing weight and not feeling better after months of TB treatment in Thailand perhaps you should get checked out for conditions  more sinister than TB.

 

 

[blackprince]

From the BBC.

 

"All visitors to the UK and British expats are charged 150% of the cost of non-emergency NHS treatment in order to discourage people travelling to the UK just to use health services - so-called "health tourism"."

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34685022

 

TB can be life threatening, but the OP's condition is clearly not an emergency or he wouldn't be posting here and contemplating flying round the world for treatment.

[IvorBiggun2]

10 minutes ago, Chris.B said:

No, I don't agree. I knew emergency treatment is free on the NHS. As for the other poster, do you think they are going to let a TB sufferer roam the streets without being treated? No, of course they are not!

At last someone with brains. Thanks Chris.

[IvorBiggun2]

7 minutes ago, blackprince said:

"All visitors to the UK and British expats are charged 150% of the cost of non-emergency NHS treatment in order to discourage people travelling to the UK just to use health services - so-called "health tourism"."

You only pointed out what  what concerns your agenda. What about 

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Treatment in A&E departments and at GP surgeries remains free for all.

 

[oliverphoenix2]

TB is one of the conditions which are exempt of charges for overseas visitors. From UK.gov website page 30.https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/742251/guidance-on-implementing-the-overseas-visitor-charging-regulations-may-2018.pdf

Edited November 21, 2021 by oliverphoenix2

[IvorBiggun2]

Just now, oliverphoenix2 said:

TB is one of the conditions which are exempt of charges for overseas visitors.

I'm still waiting for apologies.

[HighPriority]

1 minute ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

I'm still waiting for apologies.

With your personality it’ll be a pretty cold day in hell first…

[Mac Mickmanus]

55 minutes ago, Oblomov said:

Members of our family and friends work in the struggling UK health service, which now has a waiting list of 6 million +  people who are tax payers and residents in UK, so instead of idiotic comments like yours, have a bit of sense and ask yourself why someone should fly in for treatment, after no contributions for 30 years - No doubt you think the magic money tree applies to health services. Idiotic argument 

I was just giving him the information and the requirements , I wasn't passing judgement .

   My comment was based in facts and current requirements , not sure how you can regard them as being idiotic , 

[FritsSikkink]

To go on a plane with active TB is crazy.

[Sheryl]

30 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

To go on a plane with active TB is crazy.

Actually if he is no longer infectious (as determined by sputum test) it is OK. People typically become sputum negative well before they have completed the full course of treatment.

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, Worldplus said:

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

No TB implication, how did you catch it?

Not sure...off a local for sure

Why "a local"?  How do you know it wasn't from a foreigner?

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, Oblomov said:

So you've paid ZERO in National Insurance for 30 years yet you want to fly over and get free treatment?

Maybe he paid NIC for 30 years before he came here?

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Good luck OP,

I'd just go back and not mention ever being outside the UK.

They probably won't ask if you don't volunteer the information. 

He will definitely be asked for his address and which GP he's registered with.

[it is what it is]

 

keeping a uk address; family/friend, staying registered with a GP and keeping a uk bank account is a sensible precaution. i'd never cut all ties with the uk, too much to lose. plus keeping up NI contributions which is a no brainer

Edited November 21, 2021 by it is what it is

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, geisha said:

Whatever, it is strictly forbidden to travel with a TB infection. 

"Strictly forbidden" by whom?  Think you'll find that's an advisory.    Are passengers checked for TB before check-in?

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He will definitely be asked for his address and which GP he's registered with.

I'd tell them I can't get registered with a GP because I'm homeless.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, blackprince said:

Given that TB is a lung infection, and Covid is a lung infection, and the legal health and moral issues of flying with TB, and the fact that the OP does not qualify for free NHS care. I'd have thought it's better to get treatment in Thailand ????

 "According to the WHO, no active TB case has been identified due to exposure on a commercial aircraft so far. This is because airplanes are built with HEPA (High-Efficiency Particulate Air) filter systems on board which kill germs when air is circulated in the aircraft. Travellers can rest assured that under normal conditions, cabin air is cleaner than the air in most buildings".

 

https://www.iamat.org/travel-and-tuberculosis