Thai PM demands seamless "Thailand Pass"

[Xonax]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

the country's leader is demanding that the Thailand pass system is working seamlessly to facilitate the arrival of foreign travellers and tourists

So why didn't he make that demand, before they just ordered it from the usual supplier of official websites??

[candide]

It looks like it has been well improved. I got my approval and QR code only after a few seconds.

[tomacht8]

Would say that the high season 2021 is gone. As always, those responsible start thinking and planning too late.

 

It is the same with my craftsmen. A hole has to be drilled. Until they then realize that you need a drill mashine, the right stone drill bits, the drill chuck key and an extension cord ...... half the day is over.

Edited November 22, 2021 by tomacht8

[Moon6966]

They always think they have great idea to bring the tourists in 

It started last year October with the stv

Total disaster... 

Then they started to demand less 

I think with time they will realize this Thailand pass system not really working and no mass tourism 

And they will drop demands 

And make it easier 

[berrec]

5 hours ago, keith101 said:

There is no such a thing as a seamless Thai Gov web site they either dont work or are just down and on the odd occasion they are working its pure luck of the draw .

Dear PM your IT wizards can't even fix a simple online 90 day reporting system after years of jigging with it. (still broke today).

 

So you have yours and Buckley' chance of getting Thailand Pass to a seamless, reliable state while you are still in the big PM chair.

[berrec]

3 hours ago, RafPinto said:

ChaCha, please have a chat with immigration too.

90days online not working and now, they even don't bother to send anything back by post.

Waiting already 7,5 weeks and nothing.

Amen Thai IM 90 day online reporting RIP!

[TheFishman1]

I need to get rid of the tie pass and all the other requirements TIT

[berrec]

2 hours ago, internationalism said:

as with everything related to official work in thailand also Thailand pass is manned with lazy employees.

You get to bkk airport and AOT information desk is not able to help with your driver.

They have to redirect to hotels tables, where you have to try find yours.

Than misspelled names, with habitual "h" added at random.

So even if handed out a boarding card they answer "no have your name".

Of you go to yet another AOT information desk, which might now be willing to help and call the driver (who doesn't speak english, so can't call him directly or even find him in cars parked outside gates) so 5 or maybe 10 minutes waiting time turns into 45 minutes.

And wait for the driver, who suppose to be on stanby at airport, but is on it's way to hospital or hotel with another passenger.

Half a.sed work with tens of employees at the arrival hall playing on their smartphones.

Nothing ever changes in thailand. They don't learn on their previous mistakes. They never excuse for making mistake.

They blame bad spirits or outright the foreigner for coming to their country.

Nailed it; been coming here for 25 years; living here now for the last 5....nothing at that airport ever changes with all the actors you mentioned. 

 

IMHO they just don't give a rats and are too dumb to even understand customer service efficiencies.  

 

 

[BestB]

In all honesty, i do not understand WHY it even needs to be mentioned or discussed.

 

It is common sense and logic that Thailand pass should work without a glitch

 

Why and how on earth some need to be reminded or told

[LivinLOS]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

 

One of the PM's ideas was to promote the idea of offering holiday packages, said the media. 

Genius... 

Where would this country be without Dear Leader !! 

[Road Warrior]

SEAMLESS !!! not in thai dictionary !!!   only know how to make more paperwork   -- just dreamer !!!!!

[Golden Triangle]

5 hours ago, jackdd said:

If they want to get tourists they will have to scrap it

Sooner or later that will sink in through their thick skulls, until then however.........................

[RichardColeman]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

There are now 1,128 SHA+ affiliated hotels onboard.

Here's the problem with that number, by only having 3,000 arrivals a day that is about 2.8 rooms per hotel per day, before they move on to their own accommodation 99% being expats and thais. 3 people a day is more likely to destroy a hotel than leaving it unopen until more people start arriving when the farce pass is deleted.

This clown is going to at some point admit defeat with this pass and give up on it, my guess will be January, purely as NO tourists will put up with this complete garbage

[AussieinThaiJim]

3 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

An example: For the Phuket Sandbox, people have to book the RT-PCR with ThailandPsas. Then you have to book 7 nights at the SHA Hotel separately. Then upload them to Thailand Pass along with the insurance, vaccination certificate and passport.

 

- Check visa requirements beforehand

- Pay and wait for ThailandPsas dokument.

- Find the "right" insurance. Pay and wait until you get the documents.

- Find an approved hotel, pay in advance, wait for the documents.

- Then convert all documents to jpg.

- If the insurance documents consist of several pages, build 1 jpg from them

- For the vaccination documents, cut out the QR code for both vaccinations. Make only 1 jpg out of it again.

- Make sure that you are working with the correct browsers and email addresses.

- Organize approved transport to the hotel.

-  Print out all documents on paper.

 

Then they get the Thai passport online. Before leaving, they need to get RT PCR, fly to Phuket. When they land, they get an RT-PCR test at the airport, they also get ATKs. You take ATK after arriving at the hotel. Stay there for 7 days and after free to go.

 

- Fill out TM6

- Fill out T8

- Download the Mor Chana App. Try to register.

- Wait for pcr test result

- Make your atk  selftest at day 6-7

- Make Foto from your self test.

- Give or send result from selftest to your hotel. Upload in MorChana is not possible.

- When check out do not forget health letter from hotel.

 

Did I forget something?

The effort for test and go is similar.

 

Question: Does anyone have any idea how to make this even more complicated?

 

 

 

 

 

Too late the run has already started!

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, BestB said:

In all honesty, i do not understand WHY it even needs to be mentioned or discussed.

 

It is common sense and logic that Thailand pass should work without a glitch

 

Why and how on earth some need to be reminded or told

Because he is one of the many talking heads that needs to hear himself sprouting orders instead of ensuring it gets done.  Talk is cheap, show me the fixed products and spare us the BS Prayut, just like your not claiming that you want to cling to power for the remainder of the 20 year roadmap.....

[Golden Triangle]

52 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

Would say that the high season 2021 is gone. As always, those responsible start thinking and planning too late.

 

It is the same with my craftsmen. A hole has to be drilled. Until they then realize that you need a drill mashine, the right stone drill bits, the drill chuck key and an extension cord ...... half the day is over.

And you call them craftsmen ????????????

[LivinLOS]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

is demanding that the Thailand pass system is working seamlessly

No ploblem.. 

Install IE8 from 2006.. only works on win98 copies obtained from pantip plaza.. Install the keygen crack patch..

Upload all images in a filesize of <50kb and a resolution of precisely 2048×1536 in bitmap file format only.. 

Works only with yahoo email addresses.. 

if you get a database error.. Cancel the entire application, make a new email or it will link to the failed app error.. 

Why farang complain so much.. Seamless !! 

 

 

[LivinLOS]

3 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

What is the point of the PASS when everything is checked again at your departure airport and then again when you arrive in Thailand. Utterly pointless.

 

If you don't have the correct documents you are unlikely to be allowed to board your flight. And even if you have made a mistake and you somehow arrive in Thailand, and your documents are wrong - then you go back home on the next flight (just like those who arrive with a wrong visa or out of date passport, etc). 

 

It's just nonsense and puts massive hurdles in the way of tourists. 

Sorry but while Thailand insists on these demands for entry some pre approval system is going to be needed... 

Can you imagine the amount of failed boarding entries if the first opportunity to check any of your documents is at the airport ?? Thats a total no go of an idea. 

Sure you can argue they should scrap the requirements.. But if you just follow a few of the FB groups where people ask what they need and cant comprehend basic clear instruction you would realise that your suggestion would result in maybe 20 - 40% of people not boarding !! 

 

 

[Seeall]

On 11/22/2021 at 11:06 AM, tomacht8 said:

An example: For the Phuket Sandbox, people have to book the RT-PCR with ThailandPsas. Then you have to book 7 nights at the SHA Hotel separately. Then upload them to Thailand Pass along with the insurance, vaccination certificate and passport.

 

- Check visa requirements beforehand

- Pay and wait for ThailandPsas dokument.

- Find the "right" insurance. Pay and wait until you get the documents.

- Find an approved hotel, pay in advance, wait for the documents.

- Then convert all documents to jpg.

- If the insurance documents consist of several pages, build 1 jpg from them

- For the vaccination documents, cut out the QR code for both vaccinations. Make only 1 jpg out of it again.

- Make sure that you are working with the correct browsers and email addresses.

- Organize approved transport to the hotel.

-  Print out all documents on paper.

 

Then they get the Thai passport online. Before leaving, they need to get RT PCR, fly to Phuket. When they land, they get an RT-PCR test at the airport, they also get ATKs. You take ATK after arriving at the hotel. Stay there for 7 days and after free to go.

 

- Fill out TM6

- Fill out T8

- Download the Mor Chana App. Try to register.

- Wait for pcr test result

- Make your atk  selftest at day 6-7

- Make Foto from your self test.

- Give or send result from selftest to your hotel. Upload in MorChana is not possible.

- When check out do not forget health letter from hotel.

 

Did I forget something?

The effort for test and go is similar.

 

Question: Does anyone have any idea how to make this even more complicated?

 

 

Well said.. I feel like a nap now....

[CLW]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

One of the PM's ideas was to promote the idea of offering holiday packages, said the media. 

Wow, he is a real genius. I am so happy that Thailand and Thai people have such a great leader bursting with wisdom and knowledge

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha said at the weekend that the country's leader is demanding that the Thailand pass system is working seamlessly to facilitate the arrival of foreign travellers and tourists, reported Thai Rath.

Best get some outside help that knows how to do it... obviously the homegrown pick of experts are out of their depth when it comes to designing "apps" 

Thailand Pass being one of many that have suffered "hurdles"....

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, keith101 said:

There is no such a thing as a seamless Thai Gov web site they either dont work or are just down and on the odd occasion they are working its pure luck of the draw .

90 day reporting being the biggest example.

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

Offer some beer money and a paid  trip to Ko Phangan for New Year.

Why Why Why are govt apps always so buggy and useless?

Inept government?

[HappyExpat57]

This guy is living proof there are more horses' a$$e$ than there are horses in Thailand.

[dogfish180]

26 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

Sorry but while Thailand insists on these demands for entry some pre approval system is going to be needed... 

Can you imagine the amount of failed boarding entries if the first opportunity to check any of your documents is at the airport ?? Thats a total no go of an idea. 

Sure you can argue they should scrap the requirements.. But if you just follow a few of the FB groups where people ask what they need and cant comprehend basic clear instruction you would realise that your suggestion would result in maybe 20 - 40% of people not boarding !! 

 

 

Seems to work perfectly well for most other countries ????

[Dialemco]

Best to drop Thai Pass and follow example of Cambodia.

[robsamui]

6 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

Dispatch a team to Stanford University. A small team of undergrads, from their English department even,  could have a great app finished by next weekend.

 

Offer some beer money and a paid  trip to Ko Phangan for New Year.

Why Why Why are govt apps always so buggy and useless?

Stanford university?
Stanford?
In America?
A team?!
A couple of students  over for the weekend from Singapore or Hong Kong would sort these buffoons out in no time at all.

[Bendi]

Thank you Asian Now for giving us the news. And i love so mush of your end points. Its refreshing that you have your one points of wiew. That is how democracy work, you are silently asking questions. Most times you nail it????

[BusyB]

2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Not just TP that is a problem.

 

The new evisa site is often down. And it has some ridiculous requirements that were nto previously required for visa issuance for the countries approved to use the evisa e.g. financial statement. The amount of money is not an issue but having to get a financial statement to upload is a hassle and an invasion of privacy.

 

It is highly unusual for a country heavily reliant on tourism to have such a requirement for all tourists.

 

In the past, proof of finances was asked for only in some countries where there was a clear reason eg. Thai Embassy in Phnom Penh as long required it (but then Cambodians can't do evisa anyhow). TThis is perhaps understandable as there is an issue with illegal immigration fro mthere.

 

However Thai Embassies in Western countries did not require this, and it is ludicrous to make Europeans, Australians, North Americans etc  submit proof that they have the equivalent of 20,000 baht.

 

Not only is it a hassle to do but people have understandable reluctance to upload personal financial documents. As well they should be given the history of data breaches on Thai websites, government websites included.

Yeah I checked the evisa site via the Thai Embassy here over the weekend - there are some apparently repeated requirements that make no sense and some of it seems like just pure gobbledygook. 

 

Fortunately I have time to sit back and simply observe what's happening, and decide on my options ...  and for the first time now they include options beyond LOS ...

Edited November 22, 2021 by BusyB

[Paul Henry]

The Australian media is stating that the Aus - Singapore bubble has result in all planes being fully booked. The fact for this is the seamless requirements for both countries. Double vaccination and negative test 72 hours before departure. Maybe our friends in the Thai Govt may need to take a lesson from their Singapore neighbours.