Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, khunPer said: When looking at facts - i.e. number of deaths with Covid-19 per million - is he actually fairly correct, even some may not appreciate it. Thailand has 322 deaths per million population as per today. Lets compare with death per million in some major Western countries... Canada: 940 France: 2.083 Germany: 1,445 Italy: 2,530 Sweden: 1,648 Switzerland: 1,498 UK: 2,342 USA: 2,868 and the World in average: 756 If tests per million had any significant value, then Denmark would be number one in the World, no other country comes near to the number of Danish's tests with 10,441,550 tests taken per million inhabitants; number two on the list is Italy with only 2,975,910 tests per million. For Denmark that number means that whole population have been tested more than 10 times, yet 10-20 percent of the population have never been near a test-site. So how well has Denmark then performed during the pandemic in the figure that matters, namely number of deaths per million? Denmark should be outstanding, if tests has major protection value, but unfortunately the fact is 730 death per million population. Note that Thailand - number 146 down the list in Covid-tests per million - has only 322 death per million population. However with Denmark's high testing numbers what it does do is give a much more accurate picture of the true covid death toll. In Thailand the actual death toll from COVID-19 is likely to be higher than the number of confirmed deaths – this is due to limited testing. The only way to give a better comparison with Denmark for instance is to look at the excess deaths and there we can see the difference. https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 He is the number one advocate for the recently legalised Cannabis, perhaps he is testing it out too often? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pomchop Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 I miss Taksin....at least he was competent and got elected rather than seizing power via a coup. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blumpie Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 I'm pretty drank but even drunk as hell this headline is preposhteroush (sic). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunpa Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 41 minutes ago, khunPer said: When looking at facts - i.e. number of deaths with Covid-19 per million - is he actually fairly correct, even some may not appreciate it. Thailand has 322 deaths per million population as per today. Lets compare with death per million in some major Western countries... Canada: 940 France: 2.083 Germany: 1,445 Italy: 2,530 Sweden: 1,648 Switzerland: 1,498 UK: 2,342 USA: 2,868 and the World in average: 756 If tests per million had any significant value, then Denmark would be number one in the World, no other country comes near to the number of Danish's tests with 10,441,550 tests taken per million inhabitants; number two on the list is Italy with only 2,975,910 tests per million. For Denmark that number means that whole population have been tested more than 10 times, yet 10-20 percent of the population have never been near a test-site. So how well has Denmark then performed during the pandemic in the figure that matters, namely number of deaths per million? Denmark should be outstanding, if tests has major protection value, but unfortunately the fact is 730 death per million population. Note that Thailand - number 146 down the list in Covid-tests per million - has only 322 death per million population. The question is, which country (Denmark or Thailand) would be most likely to come up with the true numbers? 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 Thailand........' Hub of Arrogant Obnoxious Chest Beating Hi So's '........they are certainly Number 1 at that ! 6 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Is there anything more Vomit inducing than this Buffoon bigging things 1 hour ago, Misterwhisper said: What an obnoxious, arrogant, deluded, narcissistic and self-aggrandizing man. He disgusts me. Good job! Millions out of work. Crime sharply increasing. Xenophobia on the rise. Households ever deeper in debt. A once flourishing tourism industry destroyed to the point of non-recovery. Should I go on? You forgot the ever increasing Public Debt to GDP Ratio Is there anything more Vomit inducing than this Man bigging things up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cleareye Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 Next prime minister for sure. He has all the right qualifications: arrogance, ignorance, inflated ego, irresponsibility, dishonesty, xenophobia... 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Cleareye said: Next prime minister for sure. He has all the right qualifications: arrogance, ignorance, inflated ego, irresponsibility, dishonesty, xenophobia... And unhealthily wealthy! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunPer Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: However with Denmark's high testing numbers what it does do is give a much more accurate picture of the true covid death toll. In Thailand the actual death toll from COVID-19 is likely to be higher than the number of confirmed deaths – this is due to limited testing. The only way to give a better comparison with Denmark for instance is to look at the excess deaths and there we can see the difference. https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid Thanks for your comment. Yes, excess mortality is indeed relevant, but you need to look at the accumulated numbers to compare, and what other factors might be relevant. For example there has been little to no influenza in Denmark during the Covid pandemic. In Denmark an influenza epidemic, like the one in 2017-2018, can kill more people during one season (2,822), than the Covid pandemic did in one year (total deaths in two years are 4,250). During the Covid-pandemic there have been recorded between 1 and maximum less than 25 influenza-cases per week, not death, so specified influenza don't appear in the stats. For the season 2019-2020, where Covid arrived in 2020 by the time influenza normally would peak, the number of influenza deaths were 119, in average it would be 700 or more. The point is that it's extremely difficult to compare data when there are no significant differences. However there are significant differences in the number of Covid test per million between Denmark and all other nations - five times as many as number two in the cahrt - but that is not shown in similar lower number of deaths. And what about Italy, which is number 2 on the chart for number of performed Covid tests per million population; they should also be performing way lower than Thailand... My point in my first comment is that even if some may not fancy khun Anutin - and even he sometimes makes some odd statements - then statistics talks in his favor here, Thailand has not performed that bad during the Covid-pandemic, when it comes to health and deaths...???? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunPer Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 48 minutes ago, khunpa said: The question is, which country (Denmark or Thailand) would be most likely to come up with the true numbers? Actually, you cannot trust the Danish numbers - they are politically manipulated - which you can find more about if you Google news from Denmark; in fact the government's Covid-handling is becoming a scandal... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big dendrobenaes Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 4 hours ago, 2long said: 146th 1 & 46 4+6 = 10 So we have 1 + 10 1x0 = 0 So we have 1 and a zero, and the zero doesn't count for anything Therefore we are left with 1, 1st, the best. It's simple! ???? just what kinda maths is all this ????? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saanim Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Willy Wombat said: Too bad there is not decent media in Thailand to hold him accountable for his comments Frankly, do you know a country with a decent media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 4 hours ago, webfact said: He said that the vaccine program exemplified this and in response to questions about how long it will continue he pledged that the program will continue until Thailand is as safe as it can get. Like so many of his colleagues, a man who could have had a great career in stand up comedy. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Henryford Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 Best in the world for destroying their tourist industry, sure. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, khunPer said: Thanks for your comment. Yes, excess mortality is indeed relevant, but you need to look at the accumulated numbers to compare, and what other factors might be relevant. For example there has been little to no influenza in Denmark during the Covid pandemic. In Denmark an influenza epidemic, like the one in 2017-2018, can kill more people during one season (2,822), than the Covid pandemic did in one year (total deaths in two years are 4,250). During the Covid-pandemic there have been recorded between 1 and maximum less than 25 influenza-cases per week, not death, so specified influenza don't appear in the stats. For the season 2019-2020, where Covid arrived in 2020 by the time influenza normally would peak, the number of influenza deaths were 119, in average it would be 700 or more. The point is that it's extremely difficult to compare data when there are no significant differences. However there are significant differences in the number of Covid test per million between Denmark and all other nations - five times as many as number two in the cahrt - but that is not shown in similar lower number of deaths. And what about Italy, which is number 2 on the chart for number of performed Covid tests per million population; they should also be performing way lower than Thailand... My point in my first comment is that even if some may not fancy khun Anutin - and even he sometimes makes some odd statements - then statistics talks in his favor here, Thailand has not performed that bad during the Covid-pandemic, when it comes to health and deaths...???? Nothing to do with the flu being a factor, there was little or no flu in every country in the world including Thailand that put in place covid measures. The fact is excess deaths proves that Denmark was able to capture far more covid deaths than Thailand in its official count due to its testing and puts into perspective the true cost in Thailand for mortality. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wombat Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, Saanim said: Frankly, do you know a country with a decent media? Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankie machine Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 always the jokester, this guy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 4 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Really ? Thailand is 146th in test per million ! I guess if you consider 146th as first place then he's right What has number of tests got to do with handling the virus? 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluemoon58 Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 4 hours ago, spidermike007 said: This clown would say or do anything, to deflect from his historic failure of the vax program, the highly selective shutdowns, the favoritism toward cronies, and the collapse of the economy and tourism And let's not forget he called us "dirty farang" right at the start. How this muppet keeps his job is beyond me! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunpa Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 Great work! Especially when needing to beg for vaccines from other countries. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Misterwhisper said: What an obnoxious, arrogant, deluded, narcissistic and self-aggrandizing man. He disgusts me. Good job! Millions out of work. Crime sharply increasing. Xenophobia on the rise. Households ever deeper in debt. A once flourishing tourism industry destroyed to the point of non-recovery. Should I go on? And just think, maybe our next PM. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saanim Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 41 minutes ago, Willy Wombat said: Yes Please share your knowledge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madmitch Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 Other Governments around the world have supported those who have been out of work due to the pandemic. Most Thais have received <deleted> all from this Government, though of course the.likes of CP have increased their profits massively. There's more to handling a pandemic than just the numbers of infections and deaths and though they may have good, if certainly inaccurate, figures, they've failed abysmally in the other aspects. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saanim Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 36 minutes ago, frankie machine said: always the jokester, this guy An OP like this, what may possibly go wrong? (Surely not the number of clicks...) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saanim Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, madmitch said: Most Thais have received <deleted> all from this Government A misinformation - it should be deleted... 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2here Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 My take is that while I think their response was not flawless by any means, I ALSO don’t think it was a total failure either. I agree with the general sentiment that their response might be best measured as “as good as any other” Again, I am NOT overlooking any missteps they made — and YES, they did make some… but… i must also acknowledge that this was (and arguably still is) an unprecedented event and one where there was no modern record of a previous event that a government could “go back to” and review and use the past planning as their blueprint. But I do have to give credit that they did do somethings right… So I wouldn’t necessarily say they get a big “atta boy” pat on the back, i don’t think they should be condemned as a total failure either.. I think the truth from the macro level is that it’s a mixed result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted February 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Saanim said: Please share your knowledge... I think any country that does not impose strict censorship and allows in depth investigative journalism has the basis for a broad range of good and bad media outlets. Many countries fit that description, not Thailand however. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 This guy has more imagination than Walt Disney.....???????????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 5 hours ago, bdenner said: Is there no end to the arrogance in this man? A classic example of the Dunning- Kruger Effect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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