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1 hour ago, placeholder said:

As you may recall, at the time, the situation looked desperate for the Ukrainians. So, Ukraine was obviously going to try and throw everything it

Maybe they were desperate, maybe, I don't consider recruiting in prisons as something bad.

 

Another link:

In July, Kiev released a former commander of battalion Tornado sentenced to 11 years (he actually spent 7 years) for war crimes against civilians:

https://southfront.org/zelensky-released-former-tornado-commander-from-prison-while-russians-showcase-nazis-crimes-in-donbass/

 

 

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1652045/putin-news-russia-ukraine-wagner-group-prisoners-murderers-troops-defence-latest

 

"Recruiters show interest in those convicted for murder and robbery. Those inmates in prison for drug and sex offences are normally not selected."

Generally, psychopaths don't play well with others. So, probably not the best human material tu turn into a soldier.

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38 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Generally, psychopaths don't play well with others. So, probably not the best human material tu turn into a soldier.

Not sure if I agree with you. Birds of a feather stick together. Just look at that Wagner group, I don’t think there’s a larger group of violent nutters and psycho’s in the world, and they seem to be doing quite well, so they apparently make it work somehow.

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President Zelensky said on Friday many Ukrainians were buried at various sites in the newly-recaptured northeast including whole families and people who were tortured, likening the aftermath to Russia’s withdrawal from near Kyiv months ago.

 

Zelensky: “Russia leaves only death and suffering. Murderers. Torturers.”

 

https://www.anews.com.tr/world/2022/09/16/zelensky-alleges-torture-and-war-crimes-evidence-in-recaptured-northeast

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Mass exhumations at Izyum forest graves site

In a pine forest at the edge of Izyum the stench of death filled the air as a mass exhumation got under way.

 

The earth is giving up its secrets. Ukrainian officials believe war crimes have been committed, which they are determined to document.

Around 100 Ukrainian emergency service workers wearing blue plastic coverings dug into the earth, opening makeshift graves.

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and the EU & US sanctions appear to start to bite hard

Sanctions hamper Russia's ability to make advanced weapons, NATO says

We now see the first serious signs of that in terms of their ability to produce, for example, the replacement of cruise missiles and more advanced weaponry," he added.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sanctions-hamper-russias-ability-advanced-125104720.html

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anything should be expected from a maniacal lunatic as Vlad as the bad news keep pilling up on his desk

 

Team Putin Threatens Maniacal Response to Bitter War Losses

https://www.yahoo.com/news/team-putin-threatens-maniacal-response-084713615.html

Luhansk puppet authority “prosecutor general” killed in Luhansk

https://www.yahoo.com/news/luhansk-puppet-authority-prosecutor-general-152800508.html

Russian soldiers refused to complete their duty and expressed 'moral exhaustion,' and 'worsening' of health in 10 letters left behind in Izium, Ukraine, The Washington Post reported

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-soldiers-refused-complete-duty-004628639.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Rimmer said:

Biden warns Putin not to use tactical nuclear weapons

 

US President Joe Biden has warned Russia not to use chemical or tactical nuclear weapons in the war in Ukraine.

 

Speaking during an interview with CBS News, Mr Biden said such action would "change the face of war unlike anything since World War Two".

 

He would not say what response the US would make to the use of such weapons.

 

Russian President Vladimir Putin put the country's nuclear forces on "special" alert following its invasion of Ukraine in February.

 

Read more:

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-war-biden-warns-putin-044556777.html

 

 

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let's hope Biden doesn't do what Obama did (nothing) when Vlad crossed over the red line when invading Crimea

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31 minutes ago, Rimmer said:

Biden warns Putin not to use tactical nuclear weapons

 

US President Joe Biden has warned Russia not to use chemical or tactical nuclear weapons in the war in Ukraine.

 

Speaking during an interview with CBS News, Mr Biden said such action would "change the face of war unlike anything since World War Two".

 

He would not say what response the US would make to the use of such weapons.

 

Russian President Vladimir Putin put the country's nuclear forces on "special" alert following its invasion of Ukraine in February.

 

Read more:

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-war-biden-warns-putin-044556777.html

 

 

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False flag?

 

Vladimir Putin said that Ukraine was trying to arrange terrorist attacks near Russia's nuclear facilities Attacking Russia's nuclear arsenal is a justification that the Kremlin cites for a potential nuclear strike

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14 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

what should be the take,  out of Vlad's answer

Putin tells Modi he'll 'stop' the Ukraine invasion he ordered 'as soon as possible' after the Indian leader criticized Russia's war to his face

https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-tells-modi-hell-stop-194411249.html

 

He also said it’s all Ukraine’s fault it’s still going on, because Ukraine refuses to negotiate. 

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16 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Privateers were quite common in those days, it's one of the reasons how a small country like The Netherlands could become the most powerful nation on the planet for quite a while.

But that was 400-500 years ago, times were a little different back then. Torturing prisoners to extract a confession was quite normal, for instance. Life was very cheap. Times have changed since then, however. The death penalty has been abolished in a lot of countries, torturing prisoners (or anyone else, for that matter) is frowned upon and going to war because a wannabe fascist dictator has delusions of grandeur is something most civilized countries strongly disapprove of. Apparently Putin doesn't care about all that, though, and wants to go back in time a couple of centuries. I feel sorry for Russia for having such an insane leader, and such a kleptocratic elite who care about nothing and no one, only about themselves, the size of their bank accounts and their giant ego.

 

12 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

what should be the take,  out of Vlad's answer

Putin tells Modi he'll 'stop' the Ukraine invasion he ordered 'as soon as possible' after the Indian leader criticized Russia's war to his face

https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-tells-modi-hell-stop-194411249.html

 

Err have we forgot Jo Ferrari the big Cheese police chief who was caught Torturing a drug suspect till he died Rudi49jnr. Still happening everywhere around the World.

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10 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

 

Err have we forgot Jo Ferrari the big Cheese police chief who was caught Torturing a drug suspect till he died Rudi49jnr. Still happening everywhere around the World.

And there was waterboarding by the CIA. And still in lots of other countries. But the huge scale of Russian torture and murder of POWs and civilians certainly sets it apart from its European neighbors and other economically advanced nations.

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3 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

He also said it’s all Ukraine’s fault it’s still going on, because Ukraine refuses to negotiate. 

I know, it's always somebody else's fault but Vlad may be running out laborers 555

 

Russia ‘may not have sufficient reserves’ to withstand further Ukraine assault

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-withstand-ukraine-assault-kyiv-b2169298.html

 

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3 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

He also said it’s all Ukraine’s fault it’s still going on, because Ukraine refuses to negotiate. 

I think Putin can stop it on his own - just leave Donbass and Crimea, then offer peace. I'm quite sure Ukraine would accept, even with those unfavourable terms, since it would let many war criminals go unpunished and Ukraine would probably only receive Russia's foreign assets that were seized earlier as reparations.

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48 minutes ago, tgw said:

I think Putin can stop it on his own

I totally agree. I just repeated what Putin used as an excuse (it's all Ukraine's fault) to continue with his war of terror that is doomed to fail.

In the end, Putin is fully responsible for this senseless war, as well as for the countless war crimes being committed by the Russian army (and its allies, like the Wagner group and the pro-Russia militias in Donbass).

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has accused Russian forces previously occupying much of Ukraine's Kharkiv region of employing the widespread use of torture. At least 10 torture sites had now been discovered in the liberated eastern region, Zelensky said in his evening video address on Saturday.

Russia, of course, denies everything and calls it a smear campaign.

 

https://www.anews.com.tr/world/2022/09/18/zelensky-accuses-russian-fascists-of-torture-in-kharkiv-region

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This  NY Times article has a link to this video of streetfighting in Kherson.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/09/18/world/ukraine-russia-war

Here's a direct link to the video in Telegram.

https://t.me/rybar/38968?single

There's nothing authoritative on who's doing the fighting, The Russians say their troops were attacking a nest of Ukrainian guerilla fighters. The Ukrainians say its 2 factions of Russian soldiers fighting over loot before they withdraw.

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