Thailand is a nice place to flee to, I hope the govt. make it easy for any refugees. 

This won't be the popular view, nevertheless

 

I get that Russia is bad ...

But 

Shouldnt automatically pretend that Ukraine is great and all faultless, a bastion of democracy and protectors of human rights.

 

War is bad.

So is fake reporting.

 

 

 

 

 

On 2/28/2022 at 10:15 PM, Dmitry2222 said:

 

Nice to hear from you Vlad.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas

2 hours ago, tingtong said:

This won't be the popular view, nevertheless

 

I get that Russia is bad ...

But 

Shouldnt automatically pretend that Ukraine is great and all faultless, a bastion of democracy and protectors of human rights.

 

War is bad.

So is fake reporting.

 

 

 

 

 

Compared to Putin's Russia its the cradle of democracy.

 

You know who invaded who, right?

15 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Okay, if it makes them feel good. But we all know it makes absolutely no difference at all.

 

nonsense, every journey starts with one small step

2 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

 

nonsense, every journey starts with one small step

It is good to see protests against war criminal Putin's war of choice not neccesity from every corner of the world.

 

Especially Russia!

 

Don't hate Russians. Only Putin and his supporters.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

It is good to see protests against war criminal Putin's war of choice not neccesity from every corner.of the world!

I agree.Just read that FIFA also decided to lock out Russia.

10 hours ago, hotchilli said:

The whole of Europe, UK, America, Australia etc needs to freeze Russia out immediately.

Stop imports/exports, freeze all Russians assets worldwide, ban travel for any Russian politicians.

Isolate Russia completely..

Putin wants one Russia let him have it, but the rest of the world doesn't want Russia.

Already in progress. Russia is completely cut off right now. Hope this will have some effects to topple Russian government from inside when people rise up but I doubt that. 

1 ruble now worth US $0.01 cents.

11 hours ago, jacko45k said:

 

......is there nobody in Russia that can rein him in... probably not. He needs to be removed.....

Ukraine needs to send a very special set of people.  People that have a very special set of skills.  Skills that can render Mr. Putin to be incapacitated.  

3 hours ago, Hanuman2547 said:

Ukraine needs to send a very special set of people.  People that have a very special set of skills.  Skills that can render Mr. Putin to be incapacitated.  

I doubt it would be that easy..... even when he allows visitors, he keeps his distance at the top end of a table you could have a game of football on.

Thais live in their own plastic bubble .....   I asked the girl at foodland yesterday why were they still selling Russian Vodka and she looked at me with that silly Thai I don't understand look   !    but after a brief chat about the war she knew exactly what I was on about .....  

10 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Thailand is a nice place to flee to, I hope the govt. make it easy for any refugees. 

i don't think refugees will get much gov'  support here ....    Lol

18 minutes ago, steven100 said:

i don't think refugees will get much gov'  support here ....    Lol

Ukrainian refugees won't be welcome here at all.  But if they can buy an Elite Visa, then that's different!

15 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I don't think Russia has the power to 'end civilisation as we know it'.

More likely Eastern Europe will just return to the squabbling mess it always was, and the rest of the world will continue as new normal (masked and restricted).

China certainly does though.

 

And their slow game will succeed as the world slumbers and falls deeper into complacent denial.

Russia may threaten Europe but the CCP has their sites on the entire world and believe global domination their rightful destiny.

Wonder why young Ukranian men and women all over the world are not back in their home country defending it from the Russian invasion.

2 minutes ago, userabcd said:

Wonder why young Ukranian men and women all over the world are not back in their home country defending it from the Russian invasion.

Wonder no more...........

 

apnews Ukrainians return from abroad to fight Russian invasion

aljazeera ‘We are going to defend ourselves’: Ukrainians join war frontUkrainian volunteers say they must return home to fend off Russia’s invasion as they regret the war’s outbreak.

WSJ Ukrainians Return Home to Fight Russia: ‘I Have to Go’Average Ukrainians—often with no combat experience—from across Europe are returning to their country to fight the Russians

 

BBC Ukraine crisis: Ukrainians prepare to go home to fight

 

 

10 hours ago, Dmitry2222 said:

Why you missed 8 years of prayers while ukraine nazi killed people in the east of the Ukraine?

Russian Kool-Aid, tastes great, less filling.

 

When you go right to nazi you've lost the argument.

 

 

why is NATO such a bunch of pussies .....  why are they not helping Ukraine militarily by stopping these advancing Russian convoys.  

If NATO was serious about helping them they could take out those convoys immediately.

 

NATO =  nothing at the office ....

8 minutes ago, steven100 said:

why is NATO such a bunch of pussies .....  why are they not helping Ukraine militarily by stopping these advancing Russian convoys.  

If NATO was serious about helping them they could take out those convoys immediately.

 

NATO =  nothing at the office ....

Maybe because it means dragging the world into a war. It would not stay with just fighting in the Ukraine. Russia could attack the Netherlands, UK Germany US ect. There is no guarantee that the conflict stays local. Even nuclear would suddenly become possible. So Its not as easy as you make it seem. 

 

This is not an easy situation. 

40 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Wonder no more...........

 

apnews Ukrainians return from abroad to fight Russian invasion

aljazeera ‘We are going to defend ourselves’: Ukrainians join war frontUkrainian volunteers say they must return home to fend off Russia’s invasion as they regret the war’s outbreak.

WSJ Ukrainians Return Home to Fight Russia: ‘I Have to Go’Average Ukrainians—often with no combat experience—from across Europe are returning to their country to fight the Russians

 

BBC Ukraine crisis: Ukrainians prepare to go home to fight

 

 

Thanks but yesterday or the day before there they all are in foreign countries on the tv.

 

There is news reports of Ukranians going back but how many really do?

 

24 minutes ago, steven100 said:

why is NATO such a bunch of pussies .....  why are they not helping Ukraine militarily by stopping these advancing Russian convoys.  

If NATO was serious about helping them they could take out those convoys immediately.

 

NATO =  nothing at the office ....

Erm because NATO is supposed to be a defensive organisation of member states as they have been sprouting for years.

 

Do you honestly think they should be an attack organisation?

8 hours ago, Isaanlife said:

1 ruble now worth US $0.01 cents.

look at the xe.com and wonder

 

 

Just now, userabcd said:

Thanks but yesterday or the day before there they all are in foreign countries on the tv.

 

There is news reports of Ukranians going back but how many really do?

 

Below is what you asked, I gave you the links to your question...............

54 minutes ago, userabcd said:

Wonder why young Ukranian men and women all over the world are not back in their home country defending it from the Russian invasion.

If I was you I'd focus on the hundreds of thousands of women, children and elderly fleeing their own country because of the invasion which has now entered a new stage of indiscriminate shelling of residential areas killing civilians

3 minutes ago, userabcd said:

Erm because NATO is supposed to be a defensive organisation of member states as they have been sprouting for years.

 

Do you honestly think they should be an attack organisation?

I hear ya ....   but they are also suppose to be the mechanism to prevent wars and as such aren't doing a very good job in this case.  It's a bit of damned if i do damned if i don't i guess ....

1 minute ago, userabcd said:

Should the young women of adult age not also be defending Ukraine from Invasion?

They are fleeing with their children who they are attempting to keep safe rather than bombed............................of course maybe you'd like to keep the children there too?

Ukraine looks poised to win. Putin made a gross overestimation. A lot of his equipment is outdated and not up to the task, his fighting forces have long been out of it. The Ukrainians haven't given up as easily as he'd thought. He's getting far less intl support than he hoped for. He probably expected some backlash, yet this turned out to be a lot more. Russia's economy and world reputation have now been crushed.

 

I expect Ukraine to gain EU and NATO membership, and enjoy an economic resurgence with the support and sympathy they've been getting. Europe speaks many languages, but most should be aware the one they rely upon for intl communication is English. Heh. Us farang English teachers here in the LOS are up to the task. My Thai wife and I planned to go back to the US, but hey, we're ready to do our part for those in greater need. MA in Education and nearly a decade of experience here, and my wife with years of experience in BKK hotels and restaurants. Let us know, Ukraine.

31 minutes ago, userabcd said:

Thanks but yesterday or the day before there they all are in foreign countries on the tv.

 

There is news reports of Ukranians going back but how many really do?

Thousands are going back, thousands of foreign fighters join Ukrainians and Ukraine itself already had around 130.000 volunteers before the invasion.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/01/31/kiev-could-mobilize-130000-volunteers-to-fight-the-russians/?sh=5614b0621190

 

Ukrainians are absolutely galvanized and highly motivated.

I expect many more to join the volunteers.

Many men drove their family to the Polish border and then did a U-turn to drive back to combat zones.

Men drove their families out of the cities and put them in country houses, before collecting their gun and ammo.

 

130.000 volunteers before the invasion ... you just imagine how many volunteers there are now.

 

Russian orcs from Mordor stop people on the roads and ask them for papers, brave Ukrainians reply that they have no business doing that on Ukrainian soil, tell them that they stay in Ukraine illegally and have no authority.

37 minutes ago, steven100 said:

why is NATO such a bunch of pussies .....  why are they not helping Ukraine militarily by stopping these advancing Russian convoys.  

If NATO was serious about helping them they could take out those convoys immediately.

 

NATO =  nothing at the office ....

NATO led coalition forces took out Libya under Gaddafi  because of civilian uprising against Gaddafi . NATO knew they would win as they had superior armed forces . However , now they are standing by and witnessing the slaughter of Ukrainian civilians , including young children . Plus Russia is now using cluster bombs in towns and  cities . Cluster bombs are prohibited under international law for the last 10 years or so . That means Russia are committing war crimes but that is not enough for the cowardly NATO to get involved , they prefer to watch a man drown rather than try to save him 

2 minutes ago, superal said:

NATO led coalition forces took out Libya under Gaddafi  because of civilian uprising against Gaddafi . NATO knew they would win as they had superior armed forces . However , now they are standing by and witnessing the slaughter of Ukrainian civilians , including young children . Plus Russia is now using cluster bombs in towns and  cities . Cluster bombs are prohibited under international law for the last 10 years or so . That means Russia are committing war crimes but that is not enough for the cowardly NATO to get involved , they prefer to watch a man drown rather than try to save him 

all talk about NATO intervening is nonsense and dangerous, the "red button" type of dangerous.

 

let Putin get bogged down in Ukraine.

 

I sincerely hope that we get good news today from that huge Russian column, apparently the Turkish TV2 drone has been Ukraine's favorite weapon these last days.

I hope Ukraine can repeat what they did in Bucha, only this time 60 Km long.