I really get scared....

[Sparktrader]

57 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The penalties for plagiarism and data falsification in science are quite onerous, and have ruined more than a few careers.

Science most commonly gets corrupted when politicians start telling people what they think they want to hear, in preference to what they should hear. Of course, that has nothing to do with their standing in the polls.

While Michael Crichton is an entertaining writer, it is quite laughable to cite his contrarian views on science as an authoritative link.

Science isnt about opposing views. It's not politics. Science is about facts.

 

It's laughable to talk about science and consensus when consensus is not science.

 

If you don't know the difference between facts and opinions don't pretend to know anything about science.

[Sparktrader]

Genius abhors consensus because when consensus is reached, thinking stops. Stop nodding your head.”

— Albert Einstein

[Sparktrader]

The IPCC was slow to react to news that its 2007 report contained an error-riddled paragraph that said, among other things, that Himalayan glaciers could disappear by 2035. Although the group eventually issued a statement admitting the error, the head of one of the IPCC's three scientific working groups said making a "more definitive fix" has been a challenge.

[spidermike007]

There was nothing natural about the cause of his death. It was announced immediately he had been suffering from prostate cancer for awhile. Then, they decided to change that tune, and the media complies. 

 

Hurt’s death came after a nearly decade-long struggle with cancer, which was originally diagnosed as terminal in 2012, he revealed in Berkeley nearly four years ago. Hurt visited Berkeley in 2018 to offer a testimonial on behalf of an alternative, “side-effect-free” chemotherapy he received from a Berkeley biotech company and its oncologist founder.

 

https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/03/16/long-sober-william-hurt-tried-to-avoid-opioids-until-close-to-death/

 

[whereyougo]

On 3/17/2022 at 4:30 PM, Lacessit said:

I am not scared of death. I am scared of dying slowly and painfully. So I have taken steps to ensure my exit is quick and painless.

Studies have shown this is rarely the case and most cling on untill the very end. 

[zzaa09]

Wonder where Mr. Hurt might be headed in the next life.

[billd766]

6 hours ago, Doctor Tom said:

Utter nonsense. 

Absolutely correct.

 

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

UK military is one of the best gravy trains ........................ if you do it right.

One of my pals was a sniper 'spotter' in one of the middle east skirmishes, at age 23 he fell off a roof while taking a wee with no lights, damaged both his ankles just enough to have an excuse never to work again. Decent 'grace and favour' pension for the rest of his life, plus free accommodation forever if he wants to live in the UK.

Back in 1982 whilst I was in the RAF I damaged my back in an accident in the radio bay. SSQ told me to make my own way there. An mate took me in his car. The MO looked at me, asked me what happened, gave me a handful of meds and told me to sleep on a mattress on the floor. Never even sent me to the hospital at RAF Wroughton 15 miles away for an x-ray or a specialist checkup.

I asked How I was supposed to get home and the response was, the same way you got to work. On my bicycle over a mile away. They generously let me use the phone to call my wife to collect me.

 

What did I get from the RAF?   SFA and a buggered up back.

 

Several years later after I came out I went to a review board and still got SFA and still have a permanently bugged back 40 years later.

Edited March 19, 2022 by billd766
Bad spelling

[rott]

On 3/18/2022 at 7:10 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

 

 

70 is the new middle age.

I'll go with that. 

[StreetCowboy]

2 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

What are you on about? The cc movement has nothing to do with Putin.

cc movement?  And you ask What I am on about?
I take it your cc movement is either a form of clockwork, or a deliberate attempt to divert the discussion to whatever special interest you have.

People don't understand the extent to which clock movements changed geography and our understanding of the world, and I had not intended to address that ignorance in this thread.

[Sparktrader]

1 minute ago, StreetCowboy said:

cc movement?  And you ask What I am on about?
I take it your cc movement is either a form of clockwork, or a deliberate attempt to divert the discussion to whatever special interest you have.

People don't understand the extent to which clock movements changed geography and our understanding of the world, and I had not intended to address that ignorance in this thread.

Your post makes no sense.

[rott]

6 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Witches was based on voodoo stuff not science.

 

Science is provable facts only.

I remember being taught in School that there were no scientific facts. Only that certain things were "currently held to be accurate".

Everything was liable to be disproved tomorrow. 

[StreetCowboy]

3 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Your post makes no sense.

We're all entitled to our own opinion.
I think it would have been more honest to say that you did not understand the post, and let others make their own mind up on whether it made sense.

I am going to kid on that I am interested in what a cc movement is.

[StreetCowboy]

1 minute ago, rott said:

I remember being taught in School that there were no scientific facts. Only that certain things were "currently held to be accurate".

Everything was liable to be disproved tomorrow. 

All part of the war on truth.

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, whereyougo said:

Studies have shown this is rarely the case and most cling on untill the very end. 

You may be right, it depends on whether the person concerned has a strong mind, and how much they are suffering. Palliative care does not always cut the mustard.

I'd like to see voluntary euthanasia legalized in all countries, and I do wish the god-botherers would stick their heads in a latrine.

 

[Sparktrader]

6 minutes ago, rott said:

I remember being taught in School that there were no scientific facts. Only that certain things were "currently held to be accurate".

Everything was liable to be disproved tomorrow. 

Not everything. Math is provable. Certain theories like gravity and the earth rotating around the sun remain the same.

 

Co2 theory is clouded for many reasons. 1 long term cycles at play lasting thousands of years 2 solar variation 3 cloud feedback can be both positive and negative 4 role of oceans 5 el nino and la nina

 

Saying humans are mostly responsible is pie in the sky stuff. It's nothing more than a guess driven mostly by politics.

 

There are too many moving parts to put a definitive % on it. It could be anything from a tiny % to a higher percentage. 

 

 

 

 

[Lacessit]

15 minutes ago, rott said:

I remember being taught in School that there were no scientific facts. Only that certain things were "currently held to be accurate".

Everything was liable to be disproved tomorrow. 

People have been trying to disprove the laws of thermodynamics ever since they were formulated, let me know when you've invented a perpetual motion machine.

[rott]

9 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

People have been trying to disprove the laws of thermodynamics ever since they were formulated, let me know when you've invented a perpetual motion machine.

Currently working on one, rest assured that you will be the last to be informed of any advances. 

[fredwiggy]

On 3/18/2022 at 7:27 PM, starky said:

100 films ? Your off your head mate. Lol. 

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000458/

Edited March 20, 2022 by fredwiggy

[starky]

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000458/

Not sure of your definition but i dont consider tv shows "films" lol. In fact by your definition Pamela Anderson qpperaed in more "films" than the great william hurt. She was in 76 Baywatch films and let us not forget her stellar acting performamce as the "tool girl" in those 48 Home Improvement films.

Edited March 20, 2022 by starky

[KhunLA]

49 minutes ago, starky said:

Not sure of your definition but i dont consider tv shows "films" lol. In fact by your definition Pamela Anderson qpperaed in more "films" than the great william hurt. She was in 76 Baywatch films and let us not forget her stellar acting performamce as the "tool girl" in those 48 Home Improvement films.

Quick count and 70+ films for Hurt, not counting anything with TV in it (tv series, movie, mini-series)

[Sparktrader]

73 films

[starky]

18 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Quick count and 70+ films for Hurt, not counting anything with TV in it (tv series, movie, mini-series)

Which clearly aint by any definition 100 plus. Correct? That imbd link also credits his performance as a voice actor for a playstation game is that a "film"?

Edited March 20, 2022 by starky

[KhunLA]

14 minutes ago, starky said:

Which clearly aint by any definition 100 plus. Correct? That imbd link also credits his performance as a voice actor for a playstation game is that a "film"?

Didn't count those, voice, or 1 filming /3 pre-productions.  75ish not bad for any actor and most would love to work that much.  He didn't really do much for me, though can't say I've seen much of his work, or memorable anyway.  Good character actor, since not having much range, like so many.

 

Wouldn't watch or not watch a movie because he's was in it, but alway nice when he is.

[starky]

6 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Didn't count those, voice, or 1 filming /3 pre-productions.  75ish not bad for any actor and most would love to work that much.  He didn't really do much for me, though can't say I've seen much of his work, or memorable anyway.  Good character actor, since not having much range, like so many.

 

Wouldn't watch or not watch a movie because he's was in it, but alway nice when he is.

Dont know if prolific makes you "great" . I will not deny he was in some massive films but if i was being a cxxnt not sure if they were great cos he was in them. Like Jason Statham i love the bloke and i cant be bothered doing the homework  but he has some serious runs on the board. History will decide whether he was "great" or not but he is certainly prolific. And again not having the blue with you sir but for some to say he was in over 100 films is just not true.

Edited March 20, 2022 by starky

[fredwiggy]

1 hour ago, starky said:

Not sure of your definition but i dont consider tv shows "films" lol. In fact by your definition Pamela Anderson qpperaed in more "films" than the great william hurt. She was in 76 Baywatch films and let us not forget her stellar acting performamce as the "tool girl" in those 48 Home Improvement films.

A tad nit picky eh? A tv movie is still a film, although a theatrical film is a movie released in theaters. So, he was in 73 films(movies) and a number of made for tv shows. All I was doing is pointing out a few films he made for the one who posted he didn't remember Hurt in any movies. It does say in IMDB his "filmography" by their definition

Edited March 20, 2022 by fredwiggy

[starky]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

A tad nit picky eh? A tv movie is still a film, although a theatrical film is a movie released in theaters. So, he was in 73 films(movies) and a number of made for tv shows. All I was doing is pointing out a few films he made for the one who posted he didn't remember Hurt in any movies.

Na not picky just a lover of accuracy and verifiable facts. Your the one backpedalling. When i questioned it you even had the gall to post some bodgy imbd link that  clearly shows he wasnt in the 100 plus films you claimed. 73 is quite a number but it aint 100. Many people would love to claim they have a 100k in the bank but if they only got 73k most would agree they are a quite a way short. Not nit picky in that stat mate.

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, starky said:

Na not picky just a lover of accuracy and verifiable facts. Your the one backpedalling. When i questioned it you even had the gall to post some bodgy imbd link that  clearly shows he wasnt in the 100 plus films you claimed. 73 is quite a number but it aint 100. Many people would love to claim they have a 100k in the bank but if they only got 73k most would agree they are a quite a way short. Not nit picky in that stat mate.

Again, IMDB, doesn't post "bodgy" links but facts about their filmography. It isn't gall my posting a link that shows how many movies and tv shows he's been in. When I first posted, I only guessed at the 100 movies he was in because I knew he was in quite a few, although I didn't know the exact amount until afterwards. This wasn't intended to do anything but point out that Hurt was in quite a few movies and shows when the poster said they didn't remember any films with him in them. That's all. Like you, I am a lover of facts and never state anything besides what's verifiable and don't make opinions on subjects. IMDB has him as an actor in over 100 movies,shows and films. I just put them into one group to tell the poster that he's been in a lot, and named a few off the top of my head. Not gall, just a point made.

[LaosLover]

Liked WH best in Altered States, Ken Russel's most left-field film and surely a GobaGlob-5 star-er. It was full of the hippie science of the day: talking dolphins, Carlos Castaneda-like mind transformation, isolation tanks.

 

It's a big cult film in Mexico. It suits their favorite plot of being transformed into a monster -and then saved by a good woman/saint. The same storyline pops up in Thai ghost soap operas.

 

Tremendous market in the historic district of Mex City where no film is too obscure to bootleg for $2.  Stuff like the uncut El Top or Buenel's documentaries. I got Andy Warhol's Trash the last time.

 

Vientiane used to have a store where if you were a repeat buyer, you could get 20 films for a $10 bill (must be in mint condition). Huge selection due to the French expat community, they had New Wave-everything. There was also a guy on the corner of Suk and Soi 11 who would get on his phone  to get you any title the next day for 50 baht.

 

The cream of bootlegs were Chinese, often in box sets like all the Kubrick films or Film Noir vol's one, two, and three. How was that ever a profitable business for anyone? It was prob some rich Chinese guy's hobby.

 

Anyone else here remember buying movies at Pan Tip Plaza?

[Fat is a type of crazy]

6 hours ago, LaosLover said:

Liked WH best in Altered States, Ken Russel's most left-field film and surely a GobaGlob-5 star-er. It was full of the hippie science of the day: talking dolphins, Carlos Castaneda-like mind transformation, isolation tanks.

 

It's a big cult film in Mexico. It suits their favorite plot of being transformed into a monster -and then saved by a good woman/saint. The same storyline pops up in Thai ghost soap operas.

 

Tremendous market in the historic district of Mex City where no film is too obscure to bootleg for $2.  Stuff like the uncut El Top or Buenel's documentaries. I got Andy Warhol's Trash the last time.

 

Vientiane used to have a store where if you were a repeat buyer, you could get 20 films for a $10 bill (must be in mint condition). Huge selection due to the French expat community, they had New Wave-everything. There was also a guy on the corner of Suk and Soi 11 who would get on his phone  to get you any title the next day for 50 baht.

 

The cream of bootlegs were Chinese, often in box sets like all the Kubrick films or Film Noir vol's one, two, and three. How was that ever a profitable business for anyone? It was prob some rich Chinese guy's hobby.

 

Anyone else here remember buying movies at Pan Tip Plaza?

In the 2000's, seems like yesterday,  I would walk up to the Hello Kitty stall full of fake stuff of course, and the guy would give a furtive look around then take you into his DVD shop behind a curtain. Those shops and big internet cafes came and went. 

I recall Bali had cassette shops back in the 80's too and they would have some strange best of compilations with added obscure tracks that seemed good at the time. 

 

[LaosLover]

....And then to assemble your bootleg DVD's into a bootleg Hello Kitty DVD case......

 

I still have a couple.