2 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

I remember as a young teenager Tony Benn wrote a weekly column in the Scottish Daily Record critising people for taking time of work for having a bad back. In those days people only got a two week paid holiday in a year plus extra days at Christmas and New year, while Benn got 3 months paid holiday a year as an MP. So he cannot be described as a hypocrite??

This is a man who was a Labour MP. The labour party, the party of the working class?? What a joke.

Do you mean the man who was The Right Honourable Anthony Neil Wedgwood Benn, Viscount Stansgate before he renounced his title?  Who went Westminster School and Oxford?  A man of the people indeed, rumour is that he saw a street once.  ???? 

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

I don't agree on most of your points. Please share why you say "...but at least he welcomed foreigners."

He provided free healthcare for foreigners'  ,that was a good

thing, I had 6 months free treatment , then when the new government

came in it began to dismantle everything he had done, as new governments

do , even if they were good ,

regards worgeordie

Maybe Thailand will return to being prosperous again … Let’s have a Bobby Ewing return and the past years have been a dream “;0)

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What is worse? That Thaksin is willing to sacrifice one family member after the next for more power and more money? Or that those family members do what he wants? Or that people are willing to support any family member from Thaksin just because they are family members of Thaksin?

It's all bad.

When will the majority of Thai people start to support and elect honest competent people?

When will they understand that when they vote for corrupt incompetent people then they shouldn't be surprised if they have a corrupt incompetent government?

Obviously that also happens in many other parts of the world, including so called 1st world countries. But that fact this happens elsewhere doesn't make it any better.

Just the mention of Thaksin is like the bell was to Pavlov's dog.

Please people, understand that Thaksin doesn't need more power or more money. 

He was already a multi billionaire before he entered politics. 

Way I see it is that the vast majority of Thai citizens want Thaksinism over Hi So elitism and I think they're right.

in this current situation, I would vote for her, but we are nobody so we can not ????

15 minutes ago, Red Forever said:

Way I see it is that the vast majority of Thai citizens want Thaksinism over Hi So elitism and I think they're right.

That almost sounds as if some people think Thaksin is not part of the HiSo elite. 555

16 minutes ago, Red Forever said:

Just the mention of Thaksin is like the bell was to Pavlov's dog.

Please people, understand that Thaksin doesn't need more power or more money. 

He was already a multi billionaire before he entered politics. 

Way I see it is that the vast majority of Thai citizens want Thaksinism over Hi So elitism and I think they're right.

""" Please people, understand that Thaksin doesn't need more power or more money. 

He was already a multi billionaire before he entered politics. """

 

You sure about that? The history seems to mention that he became a billionaire when he sold parts of AIS to Temasuk the sovereign investment arm of the singapore gov't.  

21 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

He provided free healthcare for foreigners'  ,that was a good

thing, I had 6 months free treatment , then when the new government

came in it began to dismantle everything he had done, as new governments

do , even if they were good ,

regards worgeordie

" He provided free healthcare for foreigners'  ,that was a good

thing, ..."

 

Can you expand on that please, been here well over 3 decades and I can't remember that.

I may be wrong but wasnt Thaksins party behind the eradication of drugs in Thailand ?  Since they were ousted the drug world in Thailand is still eradicated ... NOT ! half the country seems to be smashed off their T-ts on yabba . I think if they were still incharge that would not have happend. The Thais reserves would not have been spent on Tanks , Submarines and ships and maybe put into helping the country through covid. He was not a saint by any shape or form but he did  alot of good like the 30baht health system. He seemed to understand the importance of foreign visitors to the econmony where as the current dictactor seems to hate anyone thats not from China . Thaskin knew and understood finances unlike the current idiots , the majority of the country seemed happier under his party and the place was still the land of smiles which it hasnt been for a good 5 or 6 years now.

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7 hours ago, robblok said:

Just two bad choices that will never change. 

I think Thailand would have been just fine if the military hadn't meddled with people's choices. No Shinawatra has ever been or will ever be as incompetent as the current lot.

Tax-in or Tax-out! 
 

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3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

You've reminded me of a joke that was doing the rounds some years ago.

 

Q: What's the difference between a social worker and a rottweiler?

 

A: The rottweiler sometimes gives the child back.

 

Must remember that one....555

 

it seems now that would make future forward to struggle more for a young generation.

But closer to election it would be clear, that PT is cooking an alliance with Prawit, in order to push out Prayut out and bring Thaksin by a back door. Young generation would not support such political shenanigans 

 

8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

If she runs, she'll probably win, demonstration will then be allowed, and she be'll disposed even quicker than the last 2 toxins to get elected.

Yet Thaksin was legally elected in a democratic vote by the Thai people, not once but twice in a row. He remains the only Thai PM to have completed a 4 year term as PM and then got reelected with a larger majority than the first time around.

 

His sister Yingluck was also legally elected in a democratic vote a few years later.

 

The other common link between them is that they were both deposed by a military coup.

 

Oddly enough the charges against them both were brought my military governments.

 

Thaksin tried through his sister to get an amnesty but it failed.

 

All the military coup leaders have granted themselves an amnesty for ALL past, present and future acts.

 

Assuming that the next election s not rigged (an unlikely prospect I know) then the Pheu Thai should win, if not an overall majority, enough to form a coalition government legally.

 

That is the thing that is terrifying Prayuth and the PPRP the most.

1. Am I correct? A PM here must get a majority vote from the combined House of Reps (500 seats) plus the Senate (250 seats) = total 750, so a majority would be 376.

 

2. There are only 375 directly elected seats in the House of Reps (plus the 125 party-list seats) - so one cannot be PM even if you win every lower house directly elected seat (if you are not supported by tge Senate/Junta).

 

3. The lady in the OP seems to be a bit of a dreamer - her task is monumental.

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Unlikely scenario and not much changed since Sarit and Phibul except, that the money in the past was pumped into Thailand in form of nine digit dollar amounts; now it's the Chinese turn. 

It takes more than Shinawatra as a last name to unseat the generalissimo, latter being there while the taking is good (and it still is, see submarines - albeit without engines -, air force and railway grid plans across the country). 

Interesting enough is, that Dr Thaksin has been out of the country for staggering 14 years now and still can call very loud shots from faraway lands. This is not only, because he the strong man of opposing thoughts but also documents the very weakness of all those other parties, operating and led by "leaders" from within Thailand.

Paetongtarn Shinawatra will be a placeholder, as her auntie Yingluck, but most Thais meanwhile could live with this. She just has to be prepared for the mother of all battles against Anutin with his high aspirations and do not forget Thammanat's miraculous conversion from baking flour to illicit substances which booked him an FOC stay at the Sydney Hilton. It will be a very dirty and nasty all-out an episode of Game of Thrones - Thai-style. 

For all the dirty farangs = get popcorn and the Laz-y-boy recliners ready; it is showtime anytime soon again ???? 

8 hours ago, BritManToo said:

They only need to kill the generals ..........

The Thai military has more than 1,700 flag officers (generals and admirals), roughly one general for every 212 troops

8 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That is false, Yingluck was not "ousted by the current government", she was not even PM at the time of the coup.   She had been removed from her position by the Constitutional Court before the coup.

Finish the story, go on, why don't you? 

 

Something along the lines of "she was however Pheu Thai's candidate for Prime Minister, and very, very likely to be returned to power. There was a particular imperative which demanded the Army and the "old gang" be in power, definitely not Pheu Thai and certainly not a Shinawattra, so the election was replaced by a coup, and a military government installed."

 

After all, we all know just what a stickler for the very truth you are in such matters!????

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Anyone would be better. Even Porn the Som Tam gal, or Nit the maid would be a better leader than the TRex.

 

Covid exploded due to an extreme lack of experience and skill, coupled with favoritism toward the cronies, tourism was destroyed, the economy was decimated, real estate tanked, exports dropped, suicide skyrocketed and so did homelessness, unemployment and desperation. 

 

Congrats Prayuth. Your mission is nearly complete. 

Could not have said it better. Even Putin is smarter than that what we have now

And Ivanka will be the next President of the US. What a stupid world.

26 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

9 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That is false, Yingluck was not "ousted by the current government", she was not even PM at the time of the coup.   She had been removed from her position by the Constitutional Court before the coup.

Finish the story, go on, why don't you? 

 

Something along the lines of "she was however Pheu Thai's candidate for Prime Minister, and very, very likely to be returned to power. There was a particular imperative which demanded the Army and the "old gang" be in power, definitely not Pheu Thai and certainly not a Shinawattra, so the election was replaced by a coup, and a military government installed."

 

After all, we all know just what a stickler for the very truth you are in such matters!????

It's interesting that you seem to see something wrong with pointing out a completely false statement.  It's a pity that there aren't a few more posters here who prefer to see the truth published. 

 

Yingluck was not ousted by the coup, there can be no argument about that as she was not PM at the time.   What you see in your crystal ball about what may have happened in the future is irrelevant to the facts of the time.

10 hours ago, webfact said:

"He's not in charge of Pheu Thai any more but we always consult him of course.

 

"You wouldn't expect anything otherwise in a close family like ours".

Not really.  If you're the Prime Minister I think most people would expect you not to be taking orders from an unelected person.

4 hours ago, Red Forever said:

understand that Thaksin doesn't need more power or more money

He doesn’t need it; he just wants it, just like every other wealthy corrupt politician.

6 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

9 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That is false, Yingluck was not "ousted by the current government", she was not even PM at the time of the coup.   She had been removed from her position by the Constitutional Court before the coup.

Have you ever asked yourself who controls who, what, where and when in the LOS ?

 

Ever heard of a witch hunt, she is fortunate they allowed her to exit, could it be because they fearing another bloody uprising, or was it their only choice.

 

After all, it's not as if they want to be seen dipping their fingers into the gravy train, and perhaps be embarrassed by the lose an expensive watch or two at the same time, borrowed from a friend of course.

My comment was a correction to a false statement in the OP, nothing more.  What I have "ever asked myself", or "heard of", is neither here nor there.  She was not ousted by the coup.

4 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Not really.  If you're the Prime Minister I think most people would expect you not to be taking orders from an unelected person.

100% wrong,

I don't think there would be a single person in Thailand that thought Yingluck wasn't taking orders from Thaksin.

That was why she was elected.

10 hours ago, Will B Good said:

I thought Rottweilers were quiet, rather shy and very well behaved little doggies.

no, you're thinking about cats, not dogs!

They both have hair and tails, but one is fierce and the other is a pussy.

11 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

100% wrong,

I don't think there would be a single person in Thailand that thought Yingluck wasn't taking orders from Thaksin.

That was why she was elected.

You misunderstand me.  Of course Yingluck was a proxy for Thaksin, as would this girl be.  But it isn't something normal and run of the mill.  "Of course we will take orders from our exiled father, what else would you expect from a close family?" - we know it will happen, but it isn't "expected" in terms of how a democracy is meant to function.  (And yes, I know she would be elected based on the fact that everyone knows that she would be taking orders from her father, but I feel my point still stands.)  But hey, TiT!

Appreciate all having a say on this forum but if going to make a "statement" please check your facts first

8 hours ago, keith101 said:

The last time a Shinawatra was elected she was just like her father and this country does not need another .

The last time and the time before when a Shinawatra was legally elected in a democratic vote the were deposed by military coups.

 

What Thailand needs is a clean, transparent and free democratic election.

 

What Thailand does NOT NEED is any more military coups. 

 

Then perhaps under a democratic civilian government the country will be able to move forward once again with people who KNOW what they are doing, in control. 

5 hours ago, scorecard said:

Elected?

Thaksin was elected in a free and fair democratic election, not just once but twice. He is the only civilian PM to have completed the full 4 year term as PM.

 

Yingluck was also elected in a free and fair democratic election.

 

Do you not remember free and fair democratic elections?