Thailand abstains in vote to suspend Russia from UN Human Rights Council

[Andycoops]

Hardly surprising that the Muppet uttered words like impartial, transparent and inclusive because since his cronies took over in the coup 8 years ago, none of those apply to Thailand.

In fact Thailand's ranking in most global surveys has sunk.

[hotchilli]

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

According to the explanation offered by Thailand’s Permanent Representative to the UN, Dr. Suriya Chindawongse, the country voted to abstain due to the overriding importance it attaches to a “transparent, impartial and inclusive approach in the multilateral regime”.

Laughable.

[Srikcir]

Thailand's absention is a sad paradox but expected.

 

In 2015 Thailand's HRC was downgraded from "A" status to "B" status by the UN for such factors as lack of timely intervention in human rights issues. Currently THRCT cannot represent nor participate in the UN's HRC matters. But the subject vote was open to all UN members.

 

When the junta rewrote the Constitution in 2017, it deprived the THRC of its independence and authority. It is in effect controlled by the pro-military coalition lead by former junta chief PM Prayut.

 

As of 2021 the UN has deferred Thailand's HRCT re-application for re-accreditation for another 18 months.

[flossie35]

Western hypocrisy at work. The USA shows little respect for human rights; they turn a blind eye to daily abuses by Israel, then there's Guantanamo, and Julian Assange. And they have facilitated the war in Ukraine and continue to fan the flames. I'm surprised so many people swallow their propaganda.

[Tropposurfer]

Sadly in reality the vast majority of the worlds nations have either been cajoled into complicity in human rights violations and even atrocities (tacitly or actively) to please their affluent powerful world neighbours. So, no one (with very rare exception) is beyond criticism and even condemnation for their behaviours where human rights are concerned.

I harbour in my heart a feeling and a belief that we will not change as a global community and stop mans inhumanity to man (if history is anything to go by) and to think otherwise, while couched as 'hopeful and optimistic' is actually impossible, a bridge too far if you will and quite naive.

Indeed we appear to be (in the instance of Yemen, Syria, Iraq, and Ukraine to name a few conflicts ongoing today) repeating the very same behaviours and as a result appear, yet again, on our well trodden pathways to self and other immolation.

Edited April 9, 2022 by Tropposurfer

[sammieuk1]

The 300bt per vote was hard to turn down so they settled for 150 ????

[mtls2005]

Model U.N. in most countries probably have more back-bone?

 

 

[Brian Hull]

Disgraceful. Let us hope the next government has more principles than this one.

[Bangkok Barry]

All you need to know about the Human rights Council is that a few years ago it was headed by Thailand. Shortly after one of the coups, if my memory is correct. It competes with the UN and the WHO as the world's most useless organisation.

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, flossie35 said:

Western hypocrisy at work. The USA shows little respect for human rights; they turn a blind eye to daily abuses by Israel, then there's Guantanamo, and Julian Assange. And they have facilitated the war in Ukraine and continue to fan the flames. I'm surprised so many people swallow their propaganda.

Your lost in your beliefs it appears.  You must also believe the Black lives matter drivel, and if so tell me how the embezzled millions of dollars in donations and purchased houses for members that they claim are campuses....thats hypocrisy.

[Deez]

They won't vote for anything that might cost them 1 Baht. Morals be damned

[sammieuk1]

Just had a look and equally bizarrely Malaysia abstained as well must be the area master cracking the whip ????  

[brianthainess]

Shameful military governments will always stick together, who are only concerned of their own wealth and control of their people. 

[Enzian]

Thailand will go with the winner, and in the long run that's China, holding Russia as an important client state. Assuming we don't all blow up.

[Saanim]

But some of them followed the idea of Nobel Peace Prize laureate about arms twisting if they don't do what is needed from them to do.  

 

 

[John Drake]

14 hours ago, Onerak said:

I don't see any reason to include India into permanent member of the SC. Just because a country has a billion plus population and the West wants to access its thriving and growing middle class market, does not mean India should be included in to SC. 

Put India in the UN Security Council as a permanent member and it will just be one more roadblock. Imagine them playing the "abstain" game as a permanent member all the time.

[Burma Bill]

19 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

a vote to suspend Russia from UN Human Rights Council over its aggression against Ukraine

Outcome (for reference):-

 

"After the United Nations General Assembly voted to suspend Russia from the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) after allegations of atrocities committed by Russian forces in the war with Ukraine, Moscow has decided to end its membership in the human rights body"

 

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/russia-ukraine-war/story/russia-ends-membership-un-human-rights-council-ukraine-war-1935053-2022-04-08

[Caldera]

A shameful decision by a shameless bunch.

[ThailandRyan]

34 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

Outcome (for reference):-

 

"After the United Nations General Assembly voted to suspend Russia from the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) after allegations of atrocities committed by Russian forces in the war with Ukraine, Moscow has decided to end its membership in the human rights body"

 

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/russia-ukraine-war/story/russia-ends-membership-un-human-rights-council-ukraine-war-1935053-2022-04-08

Yes I decided to end my employment and resign but instead they retired me first....same same just different

[Anant72]

20 hours ago, DezLez said:

I wonder which "regime" he is referring to?

Total BS. 

7 hours ago, jacko45k said:

And they might suggest others make their own oil. 

 

 

[sscc]

Vote of ASEAN 10. 

 

Support :      Myanmar,  Philippines 

Object  :       Vietnam,  Laos 

Abstain :      Thailand,  Singapore,  Indonesia, Brunei, Malaysia, Cambodia 

 

 

Only surprise to me is Myanmar voting in support. 

Singapore Prime Minister Lee met Joe Biden in the White House and had a joint press conference just 10 days ago.   Singapore did not side with USA here in the voting. 

[TropicalGuy]

I propose to divide UN into United Free Nations & United <deleted> Nations. 
In line with this latest vote. 

[Burma Bill]

2 hours ago, sscc said:

Only surprise to me is Myanmar voting in support. 

Surprisingly yes as Russia supplies the Burmese Military. The country is still represented by its Ambassador appointed during the pre-Junta democracy period. As much as the Burmese military try to replace him, its nominees will be rejected because it forced out a democratically elected Government. This Burmese Ambassador bravely voted for UN sanctions against the current Junta. Quote:-

 

"Myanmar’s ambassador to the United Nations Kyaw Moe Tun has urged the international community to step up pressure on the military regime, while vowing to continue resisting the junta for as long as he can"

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/myanmar-ambassador-un-kyaw-moe-tun-international-pressure-328876

[Partenavia]

Splinters again, however, Russia is becoming a Pariah State.

 

[robert888d]

That tells you all you need to know about this government. 

[RobU]

Thailand is being careful not to upset it's bully neighbour, China, who are close allies of Russia. Thailand isn't big enough to take on China. If China deides that Thailand is the same kind of 'threat' to China as Russia declared the reason for invading the Ukraine. China won't hesitate to invade and annex, knowing full well that the west won't defend it because of fear of starting a neuclear war, which is the reason quoted for not providing real military aid to the Ukraine.

[Sir Dude]

This vote is telling in many ways about larger countries outside of the West and reveals their apathy/contemptuousness, at best, and attitudes toward thus. It is no surprise that places like India/Thailand/Saudi/Pakistan/Iran/Cuba etc. and other authoritarian countries are siding with Russia, as it's familiar ground and have their own MO style wrapped up in it too, plus consider trade and weapons purchases more important.

If you look at who abstained/voted "No", then you are in some very negative company... way-to-go Thailand. Can't sit on the fence forever, you know. There will be blow-back from all this in many ways/places.

Edited April 9, 2022 by Sir Dude

[sscc]

51 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

This vote is telling in many ways about larger countries outside of the West and reveals their apathy/contemptuousness, at best, and attitudes toward thus. It is no surprise that places like India/Thailand/Saudi/Pakistan/Iran/Cuba etc. and other authoritarian countries are siding with Russia, as it's familiar ground and have their own MO style wrapped up in it too, plus consider trade and weapons purchases more important.

If you look at who abstained/voted "No", then you are in some very negative company... way-to-go Thailand. Can't sit on the fence forever, you know. There will be blow-back from all this in many ways/places.

 

What is the issue of Thailand taking a neutral stance and sitting on the fence ?  

Thank Buddha that Thailand is neither a winner nor loser from the R Vs U war. 

Quoting from your paragraph   "There will be blowing back from all this in many ways/places"  Is it  another way of selling fear ? 

 

 

BTW,   India which is another country  sitting on the fence will somehow be one of the winner due to this war.      In contrary,  Europe will surely be one of losers.    

 

 

[bangkokbonecollector]

Spineless.

[natway09]

What this really means is

we are not big enough to look after ourselves & will vote the same way as our Big Brother China does.

In pure economic sense it makes sense, just ask some of the Aussie wine growers that had wine contracts with them.

You cannot eat morals