Dual Pricing Reconfirmed In Thailand National Parks

[Bangkok Barry]

4 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

How much would it cost you for a haircut back in your country ?

Dear Thai Apologist

The same as everyone else pays. Got it? It's really that simple.

[scubascuba3]

8 minutes ago, Owiee said:

Expats can in most cases obtain a pink Thai ID card. As such a system is already in place. 

As someone else reported further up it hasn't worked for him, plus the fact in some locations it's a PITA to get, not worth bothering with along with yellow book

[PremiumLane]

It is not so much the fact that they have it that bothers me, you see it in some other countries, such as the USA, where if you are resident of the state you get a discount. It is the price difference, for example at Khao Yai it is 40 Baht for Thais and 400 Baht for foreigners - the difference is ridiculous. If it was 40/80 I wouldn't have a problem with it. 

 

As for Khao Yai, I got in for Thai price last time as I was on my bike, kept my visor down (it is tinted), didn't say anything and just handed over 100 baht, 40 for me and 30 for the bike.  So, if you are riding, do that ???? 

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Twice you've stated this on the thread incorrectly imho. If there are two prices its dual pricing. 'nuff said.

Wrong again.  Dual pricing as it is in Thailand is everyone not Thai pays more than a Thai, not a Thai from Satun paying more than a Thai in Kachanaburi for going to the Erawan Falls.  In the US the pricing is one for a verified local resident and then a price for not being a local resident.  So to make it clear to you two American citizens pay a different price, one who is local and one who is from somewhere else in the country, not the same my friend.

[4MyEgo]

6 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Dear Thai Apologist

The same as everyone else pays. Got it? It's really that simple.

Such a harsh label. I'm not a Thai apologist for the record.

 

Just stating the facts as I see them, seriously, if they want to charge double, let them, I choose to avoid them, but common sense prevails when it comes to personal stuff, like a haircut, e.g. 650 baht back home, or 100 baht here, like I said, common sense, suffice to say if a Thai pays 30 baht or 50 baht for a haircut, I'm happy to support the person cutting my hair for the extra 50 baht, after all, they are saving me 550 baht.

 

I take it you don't shine when it comes to math ????

 

 

[Dellboy218]

He said the agency wants to introduce an identity card for expats, helping to distinguish them from tourists so they will be charged the same price as locals.

 

Why did you stop accepting the 5/10 year driving licenses then?

 

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Yes, I simply stay away. Bit of  good excuse really!

They all went off to Nong Nooch Saturday, I got out of it by saying I didn't want to pay the inflated 'farang' price. I would have spent the first hour complaining about that price, the second complaining of all the walking about in the heat. I also got out of paying for them all to get in and buying the ice-creams, and had a nice old guy nap  at home!

Went to Nong Nooch to see the dinosaurs with the GF's daughter just before school started, and we all paid the Thai price, The pink ID card was shown and not an issue.  Seems it is hit and miss.  Checked into my hotels in Kachanaburi two weeks ago with my Pink card as well, no issues there either.

[AhFarangJa]

1 hour ago, cheapcanuck said:

Simple fix. If your a foreigner stop visiting dual price venues. When revenue drops the greedy venues will drop there prices.

I see your logic, but that is not how it works here. The Thai mentality is that if revenue drops you raise the price for those that visit to make up the shortfall, as hotels often do.

[topcat333]

1 hour ago, mogandave said:

Dual pricing is routine in the US. 

Surprisingly the majority of United States National Park units are free to enter all year long. Only 116 of the 419 National Park Service units charge any sort of entrance fee. Admission to these parks can range from $5 per person to $35 per vehicle.

[Jumbo1968]

I made an enquiry at the high rise Revolving Restaurant at Pattaya Water Park, Buffet Meal, I couldn’t believe when they said 500฿ for my Thai wife 700฿ for a foreigner. Am I going to eat 200฿ more food than a Thai ?

[Paradise Pete]

3 hours ago, Thechook said:

If we thought of doing this in Australia we would be branded racist and face fines.  No matter where you come from even Thailand you pay the same as locals.

Sure, but in Australia it would be $20 instead of 20 baht.

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I made an enquiry at the high rise Revolving Restaurant at Pattaya Water Park, Buffet Meal, I couldn’t believe when they said 500฿ for my Thai wife 700฿ for a foreigner. Am I going to eat 200฿ more food than a Thai ?

Possibly if she is a small eater and you are like the Chinese ruffians who load up their plates, but then I do understand your point.

[KhunLA]

3 hours ago, Thechook said:

If we thought of doing this in Australia we would be branded racist and face fines.  No matter where you come from even Thailand you pay the same as locals.

Ditto with USA.  Probably illegal to even do so.  Oh well, not that most parks here are worth the Thai fee, or even if free.  Not missing much.

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, cheapcanuck said:

Simple fix. If your a foreigner stop visiting dual price venues. When revenue drops the greedy venues will drop there prices.

They have been doing it for 20+ years that I know of, so I don't expect change soon for any reason. 

[LittleBear57]

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

"He said the agency wants to introduce an identity card for expats, helping to distinguish them from tourists so they will be charged the same price as locals"

 

Don't overcomplicate it, just ask for passport if they must

 

 

We already have driving licences and pink ID cards and as said above visa stamps in passports. It's just excuses to get more cash from foreigners whether they live in Thailand or not. I keep my visits to National parks to a minimum these days.

[Geoffggi]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

OK look, I really do not mind a small price increase for tourists/foreigners, I'd be happy they did it in my own UK to let our own people in slightly cheaper for attractions.

 

BUT.

 

FIVE times the price is just ludicrous, No sane tourist seeing this 400% price gouging will enter the park - I certainly wont go. If they added on say 25% taking a ticket to 125 from 100, I'd be ok - but 500 just screams scam.

 

Wonder what spin the TAT will put on it. Something about just attracting rich Indians pending

Totally agree with the above comments, other countries should reciprocate and charge similar levies on Thai visitors .......................LOL

[Andycoops]

Oh well another confirmation that my money will stay in my pocket as far as going to those places is concerned.

Why do the Muppets want to produce an ID card, I already have one issued by my local Amphur, in pink.

Dual pricing, dual ID cards what's next in the duelling in Thai life.

[Chongalulu]

Yet again,they shoot themselves in the foot. I and therefore my Thai family mostly stay away from them even though Khao Yai (400 baht farang) is on my doorstep. When I do go to attractions I spend far more on meals/souvenirs etc than they try to gouge me on admissions so apart from the negative publicity it makes no economic sense.

In U.K. they stopped charging admission altogether for many museums (RAF Hendon etc) and they found the resultant increased footfall caused on site spending to far exceed the loss of admission. Not the sort of critical thinking you’d get here… ???? 

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Peterw42 said:

I am Australian, and on my last trip back there I took my Thai wife to Australia Zoo. I presented my Australian drivers license (still showing a local address), and received the local resident discount price, my Thai wife paid the full price.

I have a Thai drivers licence, paid income tax here for 14 years. Still pay 5x the rate of a Thai. Why? Because I am Caucasian.

 

Same at a temple in Chiang Mai. Charged 40 Baht while the Thai gf entered free. Why? I am Caucasian.

 

It's a racist policy. Don't be an apologist/enabler for racist policies. 

 

Even worse is the hospital treatment. The foreigner gouged for (I believe it was) cancer treatment and the Thai court upheld it. Thailand must be one of the most openly racist coutries in Asia, if not the world. Shame on them, and those who make excuses for them.

[KhunLA]

7 minutes ago, LittleBear57 said:

We already have driving licences and pink ID cards 

Doesn't seem to be the sharpest tack in the box.  Do we really need another card ?

[JimmyJ]

4 hours ago, ChissBurger said:

Is this as commonplace in Vietnam and Cambodia?

 

2 recent years in Vietnam, never heard/read a complaint of dual pricing.

[ChrisKC]

Well, I shall continue staying away and I will recommend my foreign visitors to do the same. 

[JonnyF]

14 minutes ago, Geoffggi said:

Totally agree with the above comments, other countries should reciprocate and charge similar levies on Thai visitors .......................LOL

And disallow them from purchasing land. Fair's fair.

[renaissanc]

I expect that if expats were treated the same as Thais, many more expats would go to a national park. I'll wait until they make the fee the same before considering going into a national park. They are not so special that I would spend 500 Baht + the increased travel expense to go to one.

[thwo]

I support dual pricing, I find it just the correct way !

[JimmyJ]

2 hours ago, mogandave said:

Dual pricing is routine in the US. 

Nonsense.

 

 

[sirwilly]

Simply don't go after all the parks in the west are far superior live on memories 

and video's 

 

 

[Bangkok Barry]

36 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Such a harsh label. I'm not a Thai apologist for the record.

 

Just stating the facts as I see them, seriously, if they want to charge double, let them, I choose to avoid them, but common sense prevails when it comes to personal stuff, like a haircut, e.g. 650 baht back home, or 100 baht here, like I said, common sense, suffice to say if a Thai pays 30 baht or 50 baht for a haircut, I'm happy to support the person cutting my hair for the extra 50 baht, after all, they are saving me 550 baht.

 

I take it you don't shine when it comes to math ????

 

 

Very shallow thinking and twisted logic. They are not saving you 550 baht as you are not 'back home'. What they are doing is overcharging you as you are in Thailand but not paying the Thai price. Why is that so difficult to understand? And you forgot to compare the wages that people are paid 'back home' to what a Thai receives. Common sense says that if you are paid 10x more where you live you might expect to pay 10x more for things. That is the way the world works.

 

I take it you don't shine when it comes to economics.

[Thailand]

In the old days when we had guests we would explain dual pricing to them and leave it up to them whether or not they wanted to see the attraction.

We would not be going, and to this day will not patronise dual pricing attractions.

[ThailandRyan]

25 minutes ago, nchuckle said:

Ah,so now racist bigotry towards. the  Chinese? Look up 'hypocrisy' before embarrassing yourself again.

Truthful post on photographic evidence, but then you knew that now and its a stated fact not racism, nor hypocrisy.  Try again or better yet not.