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[webfact]

Picture: INN

 

Muang Pattaya police chief Pol Col Kunlachart Kunlachai said that the dog responsible for the savage attack on a foreign child in Pattaya is a Rottweiler. 

 

The father of the two year old child is French and the mother is Chinese. 

 

The nanny was walking the child at the time the dog attacked.

 

The child is now out of ICU but still in Bangkok Pattaya Hospital. Earlier reports said the child needed 200 stitches after suffering horrendous injuries. 

 

The owner of the dog is a Thai man who has admitted negligence and not controlling his animal.

 

He faces a month in jail and/or a 10,000 baht fine.

 

No charges have yet been made, police are waiting on medical reports of the child's injuries. 

 

The owner is due in again today. CCTV forms part of the evidence. 

 

The two sides will discuss compensation between themselves. 

 

No mention was made of the dog in the INN story. 

 

The American Kennel Club says online that a "well-bred and properly raised Rottie will be calm and confident, courageous but not unduly aggressive.

 

"The aloof demeanor these world-class guardians present to outsiders belies the playfulness, and downright silliness, that endear Rotties to their loved ones".

 

Perhaps the key words there are "properly raised", notes ASEAN NOW. 

 

But many non-dog lovers would like to see such vicious animals banned. And when attacks do occur, their owners jailed and not just given paltry fines.  

 

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[2long]

"No charges have yet been made, police are waiting on ...... " ????

[2long]

So, this news has changed from a foreign-owned pitbull to a Thai-own Rottie.

The publication that cannot be named said the 'pitbull' weighed 70kg, which is close to impossible... so if the weight is correct the breed is likely a Rottie.

 

I know there's a clip, but I don't have the balls/stomach to watch things like that.

[Excel]

4 minutes ago, 2long said:

"No charges have yet been made, police are waiting on ...... " ????

kickbacks

[worgeordie]

200 stitches ....two year old child , yes he deserves jail.

a few months for him , a lifetime of suffering for the child.

regards worgeordie

[Mr Meeseeks]

The dog should be immediately destroyed, and that shouldn't be up for discussion.

 

Again, compensation being discussed... Money Number One. ????

 

I wonder what the child, when he or she grows up, will think when they are told that the criminal who was responsible for her disfigurement only had to pay a few hundred dollars in compensation and was never properly punished?

 

Disgusting and pathetic. 

[proton]

'

'No mention was made of the dog in the INN story. 

 

The American Kennel Club says online that a "well-bred and properly raised Rottie will be calm and confident, courageous but not unduly aggressive.'

 

Well they would say that but the stats suggest something else- that they are aggressive and second only to the Pit Bull monsters for most attacks. Never mind a small fine, PUT THE DOG DOWN.

[WEBBYB808]

A lifetime of scars for the child.  No way does the Thai owner  have enogh money.  They dont know how to raise ...  well, just look at the culture.  Most are raised without  ever having  to take responsibility  or face consequences  for their actions.   How can they be expected  to be responsible  pet owners.

[WEBBYB808]

Just now, proton said:

'

'No mention was made of the dog in the INN story. 

 

The American Kennel Club says online that a "well-bred and properly raised Rottie will be calm and confident, courageous but not unduly aggressive.'

 

Well they would say that but the stats suggest something else- that they are aggressive and second only to the Pit Bull monsters for most attacks. Never mind a small fine, PUT THE DOG DOWN.

Fine and the dog must be euthanized.   This dog has obviously  been raised to be agressive. 

[catch104]

5 minutes ago, WEBBYB808 said:

A lifetime of scars for the child.  No way does the Thai owner  have enogh money.  They dont know how to raise ...  well, just look at the culture.  Most are raised without  ever having  to take responsibility  or face consequences  for their actions.   How can they be expected  to be responsible  pet owners.

So there are laws. Just ban such annimals, sale and ownership. Current alive ones, be neutered. May be consider the same for the owners

[spidermike007]

Facing a cruel type of execution would be more appropriate. At a minimum, 5 years in prison, and the forfeiture of his home. 

 

This is serious business. Why is this being treated so lightly? Is he rich? Connected? 

[thailand49]

40 minutes ago, proton said:

'

'No mention was made of the dog in the INN story. 

 

The American Kennel Club says online that a "well-bred and properly raised Rottie will be calm and confident, courageous but not unduly aggressive.'

 

Well they would say that but the stats suggest something else- that they are aggressive and second only to the Pit Bull monsters for most attacks. Never mind a small fine, PUT THE DOG DOWN.

I know this organization well they are correct with their assessment. Many moons ago my brother was able to obtain a pure breed his intent was as noted not the best not even a year old he was over a hundred lbs I was told not even a pit stood a chance.  

 

One day my nephew ( special needs)  and I went to his shop to pay a visit prior there wasn't a dog he ever met that didn't like him.  Pulling up the driveway he heard the vehicle he came from under his huge Subbuban Chevy truck 4x4 chained up on his iron bumper  it was scary the truck if the brake weren't on I firmly believe he could move it. My nephew just shook his head and said " that dog is nuts ".

 

A few months later the <deleted> hits the fan I was called by the police my brother was arrested on a separate matter and the dog was in the pound my brother ask if I would take him I was the only one who he has ever been in contact. 

I don't need to tell anyone the answer I gave him.  I contacted the organization they went and got the dog in the end one of their trainers wanted  see if he can be salvage a few month later I contacted the organization as what happen  he was too far gone to be a pet the military took him. ????

 

 

Edited June 23, 2022 by thailand49

[jacko45k]

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

This is serious business. Why is this being treated so lightly? Is he rich? Connected? 

He is no dogsbody..

Edited June 23, 2022 by jacko45k

[Excel]

1 minute ago, jacko45k said:

He is no dogsbody..

sick,  but funny

[Denim]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

"The aloof demeanor these world-class guardians present to outsiders belies the playfulness, and downright silliness, that endear Rotties to their loved ones".

So....the behavior of a ' world class guardian ' is to wag it's tail and lick intruders or strangers to death ???

 

Pity the ' aloof demeaner ' didn't save the child from a vicious playful attack.

 

I would not be interested in any compensation other than seeing the dog put down and the owner behind bars.

[BestB]

2 hours ago, 2long said:

"No charges have yet been made, police are waiting on ...... " ????

Waiting for 2 parties to meet and see if an agreement can be reached, ie owner of the dog to pay all medical bills plus compensation.

 

If they do not come to an agreement, chances are he will be jailed for a month.

 

ICU at BHP is huge money per day, plus ongoing care until full recovery, could be looking at over 1 million easily, providing no plastic surgery is needed afterwards

[JonnyF]

19 minutes ago, catch104 said:

So there are laws. Just ban such annimals, sale and ownership. Current alive ones, be neutered. May be consider the same for the owners

"Such animals"? Breed specific legislation?

 

Don't be silly.

 

It's nothing to do with the breed. Owners need to be educated on how to raise a dog. In isolated incidents like these the dog in question should be euthanized and the owner held accountable. 

 

 

[stephenterry]

I think the owner should be put down.

[spidermike007]

5 minutes ago, BestB said:

Waiting for 2 parties to meet and see if an agreement can be reached, ie owner of the dog to pay all medical bills plus compensation.

 

If they do not come to an agreement, chances are he will be jailed for a month.

 

ICU at BHP is huge money per day, plus ongoing care until full recovery, could be looking at over 1 million easily, providing no plastic surgery is needed afterwards

Is this intended to be a sincere reply? Did you read the post?

 

The child is now out of ICU but still in Bangkok Pattaya Hospital. Earlier reports said the child needed 200 stitches after suffering horrendous injuries. 

 

Is there any chance a child needing 200 stitches would not be disfigured for life, much less in need of multiple, complex reconstructive surgeries to be put back together again? 

[TheFishman1]

i’ve had several Rottweilers got them as pubs raise them and train them they were the best dogs I’ve ever had they would never just attacked a child a matter of fact our friends had little kids  The dog would sit by them and play with them and have a stranger came up to the child and the Rottweiler was there he would not attack the stranger right away but he would protect the child that’s their instinct I blame the owner of the dogs Rottweilers always get a bad rap I have many breeds of dogs and the Rottweiler by far was the best they’re loyal they’re calm and yes they’re good protection if somebody tries to break into your house but still they would just not attack for no reason

[Spock]

15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

"Such animals"? Breed specific legislation?

 

Don't be silly.

 

It's nothing to do with the breed. Owners need to be educated on how to raise a dog. In isolated incidents like these the dog in question should be euthanized and the owner held accountable. 

 

 

It is something to do with the breed in that big dogs with strong jaws are more dangerous to people and pets than small dogs. Consequently a smaller dog can be poorly raised but never going to inflict as much damage as a large, powerful animal. This 'owners need to be educated' bit is really irrelevant in these poorly regulated SEA countries where owners select breeds for the wrong reasons and would not consider personal training as necessary.

[Spock]

13 minutes ago, TheFishman1 said:

i’ve had several Rottweilers got them as pubs raise them and train them they were the best dogs I’ve ever had they would never just attacked a child a matter of fact our friends had little kids  The dog would sit by them and play with them and have a stranger came up to the child and the Rottweiler was there he would not attack the stranger right away but he would protect the child that’s their instinct I blame the owner of the dogs Rottweilers always get a bad rap I have many breeds of dogs and the Rottweiler by far was the best they’re loyal they’re calm and yes they’re good protection if somebody tries to break into your house but still they would just not attack for no reason

The owner in this instance was not you and the dog did 'attack for no reason'.

[JonnyF]

Just now, Spock said:

It is something to do with the breed in that big dogs with strong jaws are more dangerous to people and pets than small dogs. Consequently a smaller dog can be poorly raised but never going to inflict as much damage as a large, powerful animal. This 'owners need to be educated' bit is really irrelevant in these poorly regulated SEA countries where owners select breeds for the wrong reasons and would not consider personal training as necessary.

Yes big/strong dogs can inflict more damage.

 

So what do you propose? A max weight limit? Height limit? Strength tests? 

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, proton said:

'

'No mention was made of the dog in the INN story. 

 

The American Kennel Club says online that a "well-bred and properly raised Rottie will be calm and confident, courageous but not unduly aggressive.'

 

Well they would say that but the stats suggest something else- that they are aggressive and second only to the Pit Bull monsters for most attacks. Never mind a small fine, PUT THE DOG DOWN.

"... The American Kennel Club says online that a "well-bred and properly raised Rottie will be calm and confident, courageous but not unduly aggressive.'    "

 

Surely not relevant / changes nothing about this unfortunate case.  

 

Thee dogs should be banned, nothing more nothing less. 

 

[vandeventer]

1 hour ago, worgeordie said:

200 stitches ....two year old child , yes he deserves jail.

a few months for him , a lifetime of suffering for the child.

regards worgeordie

It's crazy, these types of dogs should not be allowed in Thailand in the first place and with the Thai's stance on dogs should be  to wander free, this will always happen. I too feel for the little girl with 200 stitches what a way to start her life.

[pacovl46]

Rottweilers do not have white chest patches and yes, if you raise then properly they're awesome dogs. Used to have one. He loved e erything and everyone except cats.

[scorecard]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Of course I'm aware of it.

 

Various states used to make black people sit at the back of the bus as well. Just because something is legislated, doesn't make it correct.

 

Ban Rottweilers people buy Dobermans. Ban Dobermans they buy Presa Canario, or cross breed bulldogs with something else. It's a failed policy, it's the owners that need to be addressed not the breed.  

But if they were banned it would stop these attacks, it would stop children and adults ensuring awful traumic attacks and scars for life.

 

So banning is good. 

[RichardColeman]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

He faces a month in jail and/or a 10,000 baht fine.

You know something's wrong with the Thai justice system when the fine is less than the hospital bill.

 

Owners should be forced to take out dog insurance to cover attacks by their animals.

 

In this case I'd like to see the family take this person for everything they own and refuse to pay the hospital bill until it was funded by the owner.

[pacovl46]

2 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

It's crazy, these types of dogs should not be allowed in Thailand in the first place and with the Thai's stance on dogs should be  to wander free, this will always happen. I too feel for the little girl with 200 stitches what a way to start her life.

Why shouldn't Rottweilers be allowed to be kept???? The number of Rottweilers that attack someone in comparison to the number that are kept is quite small! 

 

The problem is NEVER the breed, but irresponsible keepers! 

Edited June 23, 2022 by pacovl46

[Bevo]

Somebody’s lying in this case. The owner (the foreign man) calls the dog a pitbull in one of his own videos on social media. It’s 100% a mixed breed and not just a rottweiler. I can send a link but I don’t know if that’s allowed in here.