5 hours ago, huangnon said:

 

Hmm. [Leechawengwongs] is a lung specialist and has 31 scientific publications to its name. Can you please share your experience in and contributions to medical science?

 

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Manoon-Leechawengwongs

 

On 7/1/2022 at 7:53 AM, BritManToo said:

All of my family have had COVID, none of them have developed 'serious symptoms' then or after. The symptoms they had at the time were no worse than regular flu.

I also contracted Covid 2 months ago, and i have to say, i have had flu which was quite a bit worse than Covid. 
 

14 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

It's spreading rapidly in Europe and The US.

 

It was only a matter of time before it came back to Thailand.

 

I guess it's good it's the slow season. 

 

July and August are high season - duh!

Carry on wearing your face mask ????

15 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

It's spreading rapidly in Europe and The US.

 

It was only a matter of time before it came back to Thailand.

 

I guess it's good it's the slow season. 

 

Cases are going up but deaths are low and stable. There is no point to count  anymore because it is not going away like the common cold and flu.

The worst I've seen is tourists on Bangkok Air. No masks when they were still mandated (maybe they still are?). And their arrogant attitudes were horrible. Like I was the enemy for wearing mine.

I live on Koh Samui, but had to come to Bangkok to take care of some things.

 

Two friends of mine caught Covid on a flight a few weeks ago. He's had four shots and was very ill.

 

Can we agree that masks are not needed in uncrowded areas outside, but when we're all in a metal tube, breathing the same air, it's time to put one on?

1 hour ago, sawadee1947 said:

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

All of my family have had COVID, none of them have developed 'serious symptoms' then or after. The symptoms they had at the time were no worse than regular flu.

and your point is....?   ????

I think his point is that the current covid strain is no worse than having the flu.

17 minutes ago, robertson468 said:

July and August are high season - duh!

Not in Thailand, perhaps if you have ever been here you might have known that?

 

"The low season lasts from July to October, with the hot season occurring from March to June;"

 

https://www.fareboom.com/News/Details/1005492/should-you-visit-thailand-in-the-low-season#:~:text=The low season lasts from,lasting from June to October.&text=The biggest downside to visiting,weather is less than ideal.

 

Great time to come because it's cheaper but its monsoon season.  Weather trends to be oppressively humid and hot. 

 

30 minutes ago, RafPinto said:

True

 

Now how will they do it?
Smiling all the way to "your" bank account.

This is the "bitter about mask mandates" thread not the "still kicking myself for having opened a joint savings account with my ex-wife" thread. ???? 

17 minutes ago, hioctane said:

Cases are going up but deaths are low and stable. There is no point to count  anymore because it is not going away like the common cold and flu.

"Experts say BA.5 is the one to worry about: “The worst version of the virus that we’ve seen,” as Dr. Eric Topol, the founder of Scripps Research Translational Institute, recently put it. Together, the closely related BA.4 and BA.5 now account for the majority of new U.S. COVID cases, according to the latest data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — but BA.5 (36.6%) is spreading a lot faster than BA.4 (15.7%). By early July, it will be the dominant strain in the U.S."

 

https://news.yahoo.com/the-worst-version-of-covid-is-spreading-can-we-update-our-vaccines-in-time-131933423.html

 

Good idea not to follow the health advice from forum members or other people with no medical knowledge. 

5 hours ago, swm59nj said:

Yes we still have to take precautions.  And I commend people that still are doing so. And have the rational to do so.  Unfortunately some people prioritize going to a bar or a nightlife venue than common sense.  
The majority of the people in Bangkok not wearing masks I see are foreigners.  One of the members on here mentioned mask wearing is still required in hospitals.  Last week I went to a major private hospital in Bangkok that I go to.  A number of foreigners were not wearing masks.  Staff said nothing to them. 

I dont wear masks anymore, my kid does not wear them, the school has dropped them, heres some interesting study from SA 

Indeed, the discovery of less severe COVID-19 outcomes during BA.4/BA.5 compared to BA.1 in models without accounting for prior diagnosed infection and vaccination implies that the identified continued ecologic divergence of SARS-CoV-2 cases and severe outcomes were at least partially due to burgeoning protection against severe illness from both vaccination and prior infection.

Besides, the scientists noted that the exact burden of hospitalizations and deaths was substantially lower in the BA.5/BA.4 waves than depicted by them, with the peak seven-day moving average of hospitalizations and deaths was 222 and 36 in the BA.1 wave relative to 66 and nine in the BA.4/BA.5 wave. 

 

South African study shows COVID severity of Omicron BA.1, BA.4, BA.5 all similar

A recent article posted to the medRxiv* preprint server analyzed the illness severity of the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Omicron BA.4/BA.5 and prior viral waves in the Western Cape, South Africa.

 

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16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Nevertheless, she noted that the fatality rate remains stable.

That is all that counts, therefore it's back to normality IMO.

4 hours ago, brommers said:

Well Starky you need to be corrected. Wearing a mask in this region of the world IS normal and has been for decades long before Covid. And if people take precautions such as mask wearing they should be commended for behaving responsibly towards others. Yes, masks are not a guarantee of protection but neither is vaccination, but they do help and I for one will continue to wear one, just as I would if I had any other easily transmitted infection.

Agree but no need for a mandate. I also question your need to "correct" me. Yes some have been wearing masks for some years, but certainly not all and certainly not mandated. Mate been living here 20 years and I'm sorry it's just a fallacy to say mask wearing is normal for most people. My belief is people should be able to do as they see fit. Early on things were different we have all been good little girls and boys and worn our masks and got our multiple vaccinations. If you wish to keep wearing a mask forever that is your prerogative I will neither commend nor condemn.

I’m not going to say I told you so.

3 hours ago, jossthaifarang said:

 

Some have had worse cases than you. It affects folks differently, even healthy active ones.

An unattributed and misleading post also replies has been removed

2 hours ago, CM Dad said:

I am not Thai and I will continue to wear a mask and distance myself from those who don't.

+1

4 hours ago, brommers said:

Well Starky you need to be corrected. Wearing a mask in this region of the world IS normal and has been for decades long before Covid.

I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate.

In all my living and travels in Thailand and other Asian countries, I don't remember seeing anybody but a very few wearing masks before the illness panic.

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Yeah, Russia invaded Ukraine all because of Covid!

Logistical problems, lack of staff, inflation, etc. were reality even before the war started.

24 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Some have had worse cases than you. It affects folks differently, even healthy active ones.

Yeah, but what is the probability? Have to put everything in perspective.

12 minutes ago, Thujone said:

I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate.

In all my living and travels in Thailand and other Asian countries, I don't remember seeing anybody but a very few wearing masks before the illness panic.

Because you failed to pay attention is why....

16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Why the rush to lose the masks?

Apparently over 100 years of knowledge means nothing to these super spreaders.

12 minutes ago, rabang said:

Yeah, but what is the probability? Have to put everything in perspective.

Probability of having it worse than the poster i responded to is pretty high.......I know my GF and I did, lost our senes of smell and taste as well as high fevers that came and went.  We put in over 40kms a week in our workouts as well as swim...she is only 27 and has been vaccinated as well.

4 hours ago, Gulfsailor said:

 is a lung specialist and has 31 scientific publications to its name. Can you please share your experience in and contributions to medical science?

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Manoon-Leechawengwongs

At the start of this year, he was urging the populace "not to be scared", and being positive about an endemic status of this virus.

Now, he is looking to postpone this, and scare-mongering..

A large section of society is trying to rebuild their lives and livelihoods right now. Are you happy to have this guy dictate the parameters of your life for you?

7 hours ago, WinterGael said:

Guess you don't pay attention to world news.  This is NOT like a regular flu.  Even people who had no symptoms are now developing serious health problems.  And reports on the new variants while showing a minor rise in deaths are also showing an increase in hospitalizations.  Healthcare workers would totally disagree with you...

Have had the booster and caught covid 3 months later. Covid was a non-event. The booster, however, caused me to have extended cardiac issues (which have since subsided, thankfully)

15 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

Not so much that spread is increasing throughout Europe and North America, but more so has never truly diminished - just that it's not being reported as such or the obsessive attention that was/is attached........it's no longer news to keep track of numbers, especially well into the vaccinated era. 

This virus is here to stay just like the other flu viruses  are still with us. with it being the rainy season lung infections usually increase slightly. As for vaccination, it just lessons the severity of the infection. after 2 injections and 3 boosters, people are still being infected. In the UK Polio infections have been reported, this was eradicated in the 60s, 70s now its making a come back.

 

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B4 and B5 are ripping through Thailand at the moment. I know loads of people who have caught covid in the last month who never caught it before. These two variants are super easy to catch/give.

 

Official figures are wrong because no one is dumb enough to tell the authorities they have it. Better to just stay at home as its just like a flu dose for most.

5 hours ago, starky said:

Well obviously cases will increase as you lift restrictions thats the point. Time to move on. We have all had the chance to be triple or quadruple dosed in some cases, so time to move on. Also time to remove ALL mandates everyone has been given the opportunity to do as they see fit.

  If you want to keep wearing a mask and having a vaccination every 6 or 12 months good luck to you. However the rest of us would like to return to a sense of normality. Wearing a mask isn't normal. 

"Wearing a mask isn't normal."

Totally agree with your sentiment, however for some folks especially in  Asia they think wearing a mask is normal.

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

She said that lung infections increased from 598 on June 17th to 684 cases today and those requiring ventilators rose from 288 last week to 292 today, adding, however, that the increase had been anticipated after the relaxing of face mask wearing requirements in public places and the reopening of pubs and bars.

So no worries then... by the way how is 6 Jabs Anutin doing.

 

1 hour ago, MRToMRT said:

B4 and B5 are ripping through Thailand at the moment. I know loads of people who have caught covid in the last month who never caught it before. These two variants are super easy to catch/give.

I don't even know what that means anymore. Each new variant—we're informed—is more transmissible than the last. A while back, I read that measles is one of the most contagious human diseases. And then the "experts" told us a couple of variants ago that COVID had become as infectious as the measles. Yet still, we're told that each new variant is more contagious than the last. 
 

My point is this; where's the cap on transmissibility? When will it be so infectious that it can't possibly get any more contagious? These headlines make no sense at all. But I bet my bottom dollar the next headline for the next new variant will also read:
 

WARNING! NEW COVID STRAIN IS X TIMES MORE TRANSMISSIBLE THAN…. 
 

Am I the only one who doesn't get it?