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Liz Truss will 'deliver' on Boris Johnson's tax cuts, says Kwasi Kwarteng

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2 hours ago, sandyf said:

Quite meaningless. From 22 April 2013 it was about 3 and a half years before the rate was near 44 again.

 

Tell us what the average rate of exchange was between 22 April 2013 and the brexit vote.

Then tell us what the average rate of exchange was between the brexit vote and today.

Of course you are perfectly free to believe they are the same, doesn't make it fact.

My point was that the Pound/Baht rates historically fluctuates by large amounts and for various reasons .

   The Baht was one of the best performing currencies at one stage  and the Pound was over valued before......................wait, we really need to get back on topic

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22 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The problem with that system is that highly populated inner cities would then have a controlling stake in politics and the sparsely populated Countryside living people would have little or no say in the elections and the Political parties would concentrate on getting the city votes and neglecting the sparsely populated areas .

   Political parties would then just have to get the London/Cities vote to win the election .

   Give everything to the cities and neglect the countryside and win the election .

   That is the reason why the U.K has the current system , because it gives people living in sparsely populated areas a say in elections 

Can you explain why a country dweller's vote is worth less than a city dweller's vote under a PR based voting system?

16 minutes ago, RayC said:

Can you explain why a country dweller's vote is worth less than a city dweller's vote under a PR based voting system?

I have explained it in the post that you replied to 

On 7/23/2022 at 2:47 PM, roquefort said:

And the other one doesn't? How about the illegal invasion of Iraq for starters?

As I remember it, Tories were 100% in favour of the invasion, whereas all Lib Dem MPs and a third of Labour MPs voted against. 

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22 hours ago, Loiner said:

No. It's all a French created problem.  If they turned up for work as they were supposed to do, there would be no queues. 

Rubbish, there will always be queues, only the depth will vary. People voted to  queue up and have their passports stamped.

When I disembarked at Vienna on my way back to Thailand a few weeks ago, had to queue up and get passport stamped, no longer able to use the fast lanes for EU passports.

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21 hours ago, possum1931 said:

and labour don't???? Think Blair and Brown?? Invasion of Iraq. and also think of the scandal involving Brown and pensions.

Blair's error on Iraq was to get in bed with the Americans and go against EU policy, something which we may see happening more frequently in this post-Brexit future. The Tories of course were 100% behind him, unlike the Lib-Dems and a third of his own MPs.

22 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Why would it take longer to inspect a UK passport , rather than a UK passport with E.U written on the front of it 

Do keep up, UK passports are now stamped, maybe you think reading and stamping can be done in the same time.

As well as the queue I was a good few minutes at Vienna border control a few weeks ago as she checked through my passport, checked the connecting flights before stamping the passport. The EU citizens were virtually walking through their gates.

1 minute ago, sandyf said:

Do keep up, UK passports are now stamped, maybe you think reading and stamping can be done in the same time.

As well as the queue I was a good few minutes at Vienna border control a few weeks ago as she checked through my passport, checked the connecting flights before stamping the passport. The EU citizens were virtually walking through their gates.

How long does it take to stamp a passport ?

1 second ?

60 per minute 

3600 per hour 

36 000 in ten hours 

Ten booths , thats 360 000 people stamped in per day 

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

How long does it take to stamp a passport ?

1 second ?

60 per minute 

3600 per hour 

36 000 in ten hours 

Ten booths , thats 360 000 people stamped in per day 

It takes a lot longer than 1 second, but however long it takes, it’s a procedure that only became necessary due to Brexit.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It takes a lot longer than 1 second, but however long it takes, it’s a procedure that only became necessary due to Brexit.

So now Brexit caused Covid checking, the socialist nonsense gets worse........:crazy:

20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It takes a lot longer than 1 second, but however long it takes, it’s a procedure that only became necessary due to Brexit.

Had the British population had known that would have to get a stamp in their passport when entering France , they may have voted to Remain in the E.U ?

   Maybe the Remainers should have gotton a big red bus with the words written on the side 

"Don't get a French stamp in your Passport, Vote Remain " ?

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2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Had the British population had known that would have to get a stamp in their passport when entering France , they may have voted to Remain in the E.U ?

   Maybe the Remainers should have gotton a big red bus with the words written on the side 

"Don't get a French stamp in your Passport, Vote Remain " ?

I’d stay away from writing stuff on busses if I were you.

 

It’s not a very good idea to raise expectations then fail to deliver.

23 minutes ago, transam said:

So now Brexit caused Covid checking, the socialist nonsense gets worse........:crazy:

‘COVID checking’.

 

What on earth are you on about?

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘COVID checking’.

 

What on earth are you on about?

Paperwork.........Gawd.........:stoner:

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘COVID checking’.

 

What on earth are you on about?

The delays in entering France have been caused by Covid status checking at PP control  , my French friend who works for Eurostar has told me that everyone who enters France needs to show proof of full vaccinations and boosters , what vaccine they had and when  they had it done or PCR tests or whatever the current requirements are .

   This takes much more time than just stamping passports with an entry stamp and is the cause of delays 

1 hour ago, sandyf said:

Rubbish, there will always be queues, only the depth will vary. People voted to  queue up and have their passports stamped.

When I disembarked at Vienna on my way back to Thailand a few weeks ago, had to queue up and get passport stamped, no longer able to use the fast lanes for EU passports.

This weekend’s queues at Dover are wholly a French problem. 
Queues for you through Vienna are acceptable. We would rather have a free UK than your convenience in foreign airports. 

17 minutes ago, Loiner said:

This weekend’s queues at Dover are wholly a French problem. 
Queues for you through Vienna are acceptable. We would rather have a free UK than your convenience in foreign airports. 

Who is suffering, us or the French? That makes it our problem, not theirs.

25 minutes ago, baboon said:

Who is suffering, us or the French? That makes it our problem, not theirs.

Like their other problem, illegal migrants camping in Calais, the French are always happy to push their problems our way. Do you think they work on the principle of a problem shared is a problem halved?

4 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Like their other problem, illegal migrants camping in Calais, the French are always happy to push their problems our way. Do you think they work on the principle of a problem shared is a problem halved?

How is any of this relevant to what I posted?

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The delays in entering France have been caused by Covid status checking at PP control  , my French friend who works for Eurostar has told me that everyone who enters France needs to show proof of full vaccinations and boosters , what vaccine they had and when  they had it done or PCR tests or whatever the current requirements are .

   This takes much more time than just stamping passports with an entry stamp and is the cause of delays 

It’s curiously  fortunate how your friends show up when you have a need for them:

 

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

How long does it take to stamp a passport ?

1 second ?

60 per minute 

3600 per hour 

36 000 in ten hours 

Ten booths , thats 360 000 people stamped in per day 

 

26 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Like their other problem, illegal migrants camping in Calais, the French are always happy to push their problems our way. Do you think they work on the principle of a problem shared is a problem halved?

I think they work on the principal that a problem isn’t a problem if you can get rid of it.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s reassuringly fortunate how your friends show up when you have a need for them:

 

 

I speak to her everyday and just thought that I'd ask 

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2 hours ago, RayC said:

Can you explain why a country dweller's vote is worth less than a city dweller's vote under a PR based voting system?

 

 

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I have explained it in the post that you replied to 

Your original post was simply a statement. You offered no explanation or evidence to suggest that the rural electorate would become disenfranchised under a system of PR, nor any explanation of how the 'first past the post' system protects the rural electorate.

35 minutes ago, baboon said:

How is any of this relevant to what I posted?

You wanted to know how the French problems of not turning into work, still applying covid pass checks and system glitches have impacts on our side of the border.

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I think they work on the principal that a problem isn’t a problem if you can get rid of it.

I think we've notice that, also in their getting rid of illegal migrants.

20 minutes ago, Loiner said:

I think we've notice that, also in their getting rid of illegal migrants.

I think the French regard them as travelers in transit.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I think the French regard them as travelers in transit.

Yes, on the way to Rwanda 

10 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, on the way to Rwanda 

All 200 of them.

Rwanda farce: Kigali admits it has space for just 200 migrants as UK forks out £120m bill

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3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘COVID checking’.

 

What on earth are you on about?

I think that the word ".. about.." is superfluous.

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