Truss surges ahead, wins key backers in U.K. leadership race for prime minister

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14 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Move on, we left, that's all history now and irrelevant to the present 

But from your link n

 

"However, a growing number of economists are expecting the euro zone to slide into a recession next year, with Nomura, for example, forecasting an annual contraction of 1.2% and Berenberg pointing to a 1% slowdown.

Even the European Commission, the executive arm of the EU, has admitted that a recession could be on the cards — and as early as this year if Russia completely cuts off the region’s gas supplies."

A prediction, not a fact. The Bank of England is predicting 13.7% inflation for the UK in the 4th quarter. 

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6 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Just watched the hustings and regarding answering questions or having the facts at hand, sunak is streets ahead of truss. Not that what he says is any better than truss, but he comes across as being more aware and on top of things, quite worrying really.

 

truss really is a wooden, stilted, terrible public speaker, and just seems unconvincing. The opposition must be praying she wins and hoping truss' lead amongst the tory base carries her to victory.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/aug/05/kwasi-kwarteng-boris-johnson-nadhim-zahawi-economy-recession-liz-truss-rishi-sunak-tory-leadership-uk-politics-live#comment-158010538

I watched the Sky interviews last night, I wish I hadn't, it was exactly as I expected, an interviewer who would not let the interviewee finish if their answer was not heading in her direction, it was appalling for both MP's.

 

Plus, Fishi just couldn't stop talking, he fears losing face if he doesn't get the job...

 

But, at least we will still have the same government after the showdown, something to be thankful for when you look at what else is out there....????

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4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

A prediction, not a fact. The Bank of England is predicting 13.7% inflation for the UK in the 4th quarter. 

And what would it be if Labour took over tomorrow......?  ????

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1 minute ago, transam said:

And what would it be if Labour took over tomorrow......?  ????

Because of inheritance it's rational to wait a year before ascribing economic problems or economic successes to a new government. Of course, Brexit is going to be a stumbling block at least until enough of the older generations die off and the younger ones might avail themselves of the opportunity to reverse it.

[Rimmer]

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1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Because of inheritance it's rational to wait a year before ascribing economic problems or economic successes to a new government. Of course, Brexit is going to be a stumbling block at least until enough of the older generations die off and the younger ones might avail themselves of the opportunity to reverse it.

Riiiiight..............................????

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, transam said:

I watched the Sky interviews last night, I wish I hadn't, it was exactly as I expected, an interviewer who would not let the interviewee finish if their answer was not heading in her direction, it was appalling for both MP's.

 

Plus, Fishi just couldn't stop talking, he fears losing face if he doesn't get the job...

 

But, at least we will still have the same government after the showdown, something to be thankful for when you look at what else is out there....????

Yeah saw that interview earlier this week. truss lost on a show of hands from the tory members who will vote for the next leader. Again she was unable to answer questions on her own pledges. 
 

#votetruss-the opposition’s choice 

Edited August 6, 2022 by Bluespunk

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, transam said:

Strange how you always bring out the "deflection" card....????

Not really in your case. It’s what you do. 

[Bluespunk]

7 minutes ago, transam said:

They were unable to complete an explanation from the interviewer, a disgrace, even fast talking Fishi had a job to reply....

 

It was exactly what I was expecting, same as the Yank version...Carp...????

She was asked to explain how she would have saved the £8.8 billion pounds the pledge she u turned on promised if it did not include teachers, nurses and police.
 

She was unable to do so, it is a serious concern that the next pm (probably) has such a poor grasp of her own policy pledges. 
 

#gotruss- pledging without comprehending 

Edited August 6, 2022 by Bluespunk
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[Chomper Higgot]

Truss proud of being disliked by environmentalists.

 

Once again, playing to the reactionary membership of the Conservative party and ignoring the views of the wider electorate.

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/wellbeing/articles/threequartersofadultsingreatbritainworryaboutclimatechange/2021-11-05

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Truss proud of being disliked by environmentalists.

 

Once again, playing to the reactionary membership of the Conservative party and ignoring the views of the wider electorate.

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/wellbeing/articles/threequartersofadultsingreatbritainworryaboutclimatechange/2021-11-05

 

 

 

 

Are the "wider electorate" voting in this PM race.....?  ????

[Mac Mickmanus]

27 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Truss proud of being disliked by environmentalists.

 

Could you provide a link to that statement ?

I did a web search and nothing came up .

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

Of course, Brexit is going to be a stumbling block at least until enough of the older generations die off and the younger ones might avail themselves of the opportunity to reverse it.

What does that have to do with the topic subject ?

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

A prediction, not a fact. The Bank of England is predicting 13.7% inflation for the UK in the 4th quarter. 

Yes , can you remember what I said when the last you mentioned that ?

Something about the U.K having similar inflation rates to E.U Countries ?

[Bluespunk]

17 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Could you provide a link to that statement ?

I did a web search and nothing came up .

After the interruption by peaceful environmentalists protestors 

 

“During the latest Conservative hustings in Eastbourne, Liz Truss was interrupted on two occasions by protesters highlighting climate change and the cost of living crisis. Truss told the audience: “I take it as a compliment that I’m so popular with Extinction Rebellion.” The activists from the Green New Deal Rising group were escorted out of the venue by security staff.“

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/aug/05/kwasi-kwarteng-boris-johnson-nadhim-zahawi-economy-recession-liz-truss-rishi-sunak-tory-leadership-uk-politics-live?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

After the interruption by peaceful environmentalists protestors 

 

“During the latest Conservative hustings in Eastbourne, Liz Truss was interrupted on two occasions by protesters highlighting climate change and the cost of living crisis. Truss told the audience: “I take it as a compliment that I’m so popular with Extinction Rebellion.” The activists from the Green New Deal Rising group were escorted out of the venue by security staff.“

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/aug/05/kwasi-kwarteng-boris-johnson-nadhim-zahawi-economy-recession-liz-truss-rishi-sunak-tory-leadership-uk-politics-live?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Yes, she was speaking  about one disruptive protest group who have a history of causing disruption a various locations .

   That doesn't back up CH claim that she's proud to be disliked the environmentalists .

   She was referring to one small  troublesome group in particular, rather than environmentalists as a whole 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, she was speaking  about one disruptive protest group who have a history of causing disruption a various locations .

   That doesn't back up CH claim that she's proud to be disliked the environmentalists .

   She was referring to one small  troublesome group in particular, rather than environmentalists as a whole 

She referred to a group that weren’t even there.

 

Once again demonstrating  her ability to be completely out of touch with what’s going on around her and out of touch with the wider electorate on the environment.

 

A gift to the opposition.

[Bluespunk]

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, she was speaking  about one disruptive protest group who have a history of causing disruption a various locations .

   That doesn't back up CH claim that she's proud to be disliked the environmentalists .

   She was referring to one small  troublesome group in particular, rather than environmentalists as a whole 

I disagree as I watched the debate and her tone implied otherwise but ok you don’t agree that matches Chomper Higgot’s interpretation-I do but that’s me.
 

Oh and truss got the group name wrong. She made an assumption that proved to be wrong…quelle surprise.  

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I disagree as I watched the debate and her tone implied otherwise but ok you don’t agree that matches Chomper Higgot’s interpretation-I do but that’s me.
 

Oh and truss got the group name wrong. She made an assumption that proved to be wrong…quelle surprise.  

Right, so she didn't actually say it , but you think that's what she meant and so that makes it factual ?

  Some people change the meaning of words to suit their own opinion and here is an example of you believing something that was never said or written .

   Making up your own facts to suit your Political agenda .

Truss did NOT say what CH alleged 

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Truss proud of being disliked by environmentalists.

 

That is a false statement . 

Untrue 

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Right, so she didn't actually say it , but you think that's what she meant and so that makes it factual ?

  Some people change the meaning of words to suit their own opinion and here is an example of you believing something that was never said or written .

   Making up your own facts to suit your Political agenda .

Truss did NOT say what CH alleged 

What did I allege she said.

 

Please provide a link to this claimed allegation of mine.

 

 

[Kwasaki]

56 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes , can you remember what I said when the last you mentioned that ?

Something about the U.K having similar inflation rates to E.U Countries ?

Who ever gets to be PM they should start now the country is in an awful mess. 

[Excel]

Irrespective of the outcome I hope neither of them choose to keep the current chancellor in his post because just  like the PM they are MIA with no comments from either following the BOE shocking announcement and forecasts that has seen confidence in the UK taking a dive if the exchange rate currently is an indicator.

[Mac Mickmanus]

11 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Who ever gets to be PM they should start now the country is in an awful mess. 

Its going to get worse before it gets better 

[Mac Mickmanus]

12 minutes ago, Excel said:

Irrespective of the outcome I hope neither of them choose to keep the current chancellor in his post because just  

The U.K Chancellor is currently on holiday at the moment , summer holidays 

[Bluespunk]

59 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Right, so she didn't actually say it , but you think that's what she meant and so that makes it factual ?

  Some people change the meaning of words to suit their own opinion and here is an example of you believing something that was never said or written .

   Making up your own facts to suit your Political agenda .

Truss did NOT say what CH alleged 

Erm…I didn’t say she said it. I agree with chomper Higgot in that was the implication but I never said she said those words. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Erm…I didn’t say she said it. I agree with chomper Higgot in that was the implication but I never said she said those words. 

O.K Liz Truss has never said or implied or suggested that shes "proud to be disliked be environmentalists" .

  She made a sarcastic comment about a small group of disruptive people who do not abide by any laws or rules .

   She wasn't even referring to environmentalists , just a small group of lawless people 

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

O.K Liz Truss has never said or implied or suggested that shes "proud to be disliked be environmentalists" .

  She made a sarcastic comment about a small group of disruptive people who do not abide by any laws or rules .

   She wasn't even referring to environmentalists , just a small group of lawless people 

She certainly did imply it. 
 

No one broke any laws during their peaceful protest. 
 

Also truss directly mentioned extinction rebellion in her response and they are an environmentalist group. 
 

The wrong group as it happened but that’s what happens when you make assumptions without fact checking first. 

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2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

She certainly did imply it. 
 

No one broke any laws during their peaceful protest. 
 

Also truss directly mentioned extinction rebellion in her response and they are an environmentalist group. 
 

The wrong group as it happened but that’s what happens when you make assumptions without fact checking first. 

Ah, the irony..................????