Truss surges ahead, wins key backers in U.K. leadership race for prime minister

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

end of the year general elections, January 2023 no Tory PM  555

I doubt the winner of the leadership contest will call an early election, the party is split down the middle and the candidates are each either side of that split.

 

 

[transam]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I doubt the winner of the leadership contest will call an early election, the party is split down the middle and the candidates are each either side of that split.

 

 

Yep, bit like the Labour Party at the mo, Unions, oh well......????

[Bluespunk]

44 minutes ago, transam said:

Those who try to irritate by purposely misspelling MP's names are the deflection-ists, and is childish....????

Get on topic. 
 

#gotruss

Edited July 31, 2022 by Bluespunk

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I doubt the winner of the leadership contest will call an early election, the party is split down the middle and the candidates are each either side of that split.

 

 

Is there a "Back stabbing knife fight" occurring ?

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Is there a "Back stabbing knife fight" occurring ?

Nice try.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Yep, bit like the Labour Party at the mo, Unions, oh well......????

There is surely a thread on this, no?

[transam]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

There is surely a thread on this, no?

Dunno, if not, you could start one.........

[baboon]

And so another thread is ruined for anyone actually wanting a sensible discussion.

[RayC]

4 hours ago, transam said:

At least she hasn't got two left feet to worry about, or members of the front bench going on picket lines that do absolutely sod all except p_ss folk off....

What was that you were saying in another thread about straying 'off topic'?

[transam]

1 minute ago, RayC said:

What was that you were saying in another thread about straying 'off topic'?

Don't do it then, anyhooo, off out now, see ya.....

[baboon]

11 minutes ago, baboon said:

And so another thread is ruined for anyone actually wanting a sensible discussion.

Even down to the laughter emoji to show how proud he is of his handywork. 

[RayC]

4 hours ago, transam said:

It's Truss.....Please be respectful and quote her actual Name with English grammar. Thank you...

 

4 hours ago, transam said:

It's Truss.....Please be respectful and quote her actual Name with English grammar. Thank you...

 

1 hour ago, transam said:

I spelled Starmer with a capital "S", because I am not an angry socialist trying to be childish,

Most of your posts confirm that being "an angry socialist"  is not a prerequisite for being childish.

 

1 hour ago, transam said:

plus I was taught at school how and when to use a capital letter ...????

The first post quoted above would suggest otherwise!

[TorquayFan]

Sunak after being a notably prolific spender as the Chancellor professed at the start of his campaign, to be a careful PM who would be sure to delay tax cuts until the UK had started balancing it's books . . .

 

Thereby he sealed his fate ! He may have been quite right but a hard pressed electorate want tax cuts NOW !

 

Bye bye Rishi ?

 

 

[connda]

So in the UK 'democracy' the public has no say in who becomes the PM. 

Nice! 

Any country where the public doesn't choose its leaders is not a 'democracy.' 

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

Sunak after being a notably prolific spender as the Chancellor professed at the start of his campaign, to be a careful PM who would be sure to delay tax cuts until the UK had started balancing it's books . . .

 

Thereby he sealed his fate ! He may have been quite right but a hard pressed electorate want tax cuts NOW !

 

Bye bye Rishi ?

 

 

Its the members of the Conservative party who will be casting the vote though , nothing to do with the electorate 

[baboon]

3 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

Sunak after being a notably prolific spender as the Chancellor professed at the start of his campaign, to be a careful PM who would be sure to delay tax cuts until the UK had started balancing it's books . . .

 

Thereby he sealed his fate ! He may have been quite right but a hard pressed electorate want tax cuts NOW !

 

Bye bye Rishi ?

 

 

Any tax cuts the electorate think they might want will not even touch the sides as the cost of living crisis worsens. Nor will they be amused when services are gutted to pay for them. Plus we have sold pretty much everything off, so getting any kind of cash infusion via privatisation will be difficult...

[TorquayFan]

Mick - yes the electorate of Tory Party Members obviously. And they are also part of the other electorate you refer to !

[sawadee1947]

For me it sounds crazy that not even 200000 old people will decide who's next PM.

What stupid kind of democracy is that??????

[RayC]

4 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

Sunak after being a notably prolific spender as the Chancellor professed at the start of his campaign, to be a careful PM who would be sure to delay tax cuts until the UK had started balancing it's books . . .

 

Thereby he sealed his fate ! He may have been quite right but a hard pressed electorate want tax cuts NOW !

 

Bye bye Rishi ?

 

 

Trusses' campaign is based purely on the worse type of populism.

 

Talk tough about dealing with the EU to get the ERG supporters on-board. This, in itself, is probably irrelevant. Reality will bite when/if negotiations with the EU recommence, and she will have no choice but to soften her stance.

 

More worrying is her desire for immediate tax cuts. Again, in itself, not necessarily bad but, if coupled with a likely rise in interest rates - her economic guru, Patrick Minford has suggested 7% as a normal level - this is potentially disastrous. A rise to such a level would lead to an increase of £600/month in  average mortgage repayments. In a period of real wage depreciation, the number of defaults is likely to rise, which could lead to another banking crisis. The difference with 2008 is this one would be home made.

 

While I agree that Truss will probably be a gift horse for the opposition parties, Sunak will be least worse option for the country.

[baboon]

4 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

For me it sounds crazy that not even 200000 old people will decide who's next PM.

What stupid kind of democracy is that??????

A parliamentary democracy, not a presidential one. The public select their MP, not the Prime Minister. 

But yes, there is a lot of discussion about it out there.

[baboon]

5 minutes ago, RayC said:

35 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

Sunak after being a notably prolific spender as the Chancellor professed at the start of his campaign, to be a careful PM who would be sure to delay tax cuts until the UK had started balancing it's books . . .

 

Thereby he sealed his fate ! He may have been quite right but a hard pressed electorate want tax cuts NOW !

 

Bye bye Rishi ?

 

 

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Trusses' campaign is based purely on the worse type of populism.

 

Talk tough about dealing with the EU to get the ERG supporters on-board. This, in itself, is probably irrelevant. Reality will bite when/if negotiations with the EU recommence, and she will have no choice but to soften her stance.

I don't think she will. I don't think she can. Maintaining bad relations with the EU is one of the pillars keeping the edifice standing. The ERG simply wouldn't accept it and the rest of the party seem terrified of them.

[sawadee1947]

3 minutes ago, baboon said:

A parliamentary democracy, not a presidential one. The public select their MP, not the Prime Minister. 

But yes, there is a lot of discussion about it out there.

But this doesn't work in the current situation.

200000 can hardly represent 80 millions. And those 200000 are much older than the average citizen. 

Why not new election?? The Tories are too much afraid to lose? Obviously!

[Loiner]

10 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

For me it sounds crazy that not even 200000 old people will decide who's next PM.

What stupid kind of democracy is that??????

It’s the one we have always had. We don’t vote directly for PM. 
We had a perfectly acceptable PM who was voted in by a landslide election win. Very undemocratically, he was ousted by the losing opposition, combined MSM, and a few opportunist back stabbers. How stupid is that?

[baboon]

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

It’s the one we have always had. We don’t vote directly for PM. 
We had a perfectly acceptable PM who was voted in by a landslide election win. Very undemocratically, he was ousted by the losing opposition, combined MSM, and a few opportunist back stabbers. How stupid is that?

He was ousted by his own party and was the worst Prime Minister we have ever had.

[baboon]

2 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

But this doesn't work in the current situation.

200000 can hardly represent 80 millions. And those 200000 are much older than the average citizen. 

Why not new election?? The Tories are too much afraid to lose? Obviously!

Yes, probably so. However they will just point the finger at the Blair / Brown succession (not unreasonably).

[Seppius]

Boris was better than both these put together, the Tories are lucky that Labor is in a worse state than them, who even knows the leader of the Lib/Dems if that is even a thing now

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, baboon said:

And so another thread is ruined for anyone actually wanting a sensible discussion.

Would that be the type of sensible discussion where you resort to allegations of libel and calling everybody liars?

[sawadee1947]

Just now, baboon said:

Yes, probably so. However they will just point the finger at the Blair / Brown succession (not unreasonably).

It's embarrassing to watch.

First the clown and now cheating the whole country again instead of new elections?

[baboon]

1 minute ago, sawadee1947 said:

It's embarrassing to watch.

First the clown and now cheating the whole country again instead of new elections?

You'll get no argument from me...

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, sawadee1947 said:

It's embarrassing to watch.

First the clown and now cheating the whole country again instead of new elections?

So, you would like it if the rules were not followed (cheating) and the current election result was ignore and there were new elections in the hope that the Political party that you support is elected ?