Truss surges ahead, wins key backers in U.K. leadership race for prime minister

[transam]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You shouldn't ask questions if you don't want answers.

So now a PM is a sewer inspector, others control that sort of stuff, unless you know different....

And what has it to do with this thread....?

Edited August 23, 2022 by transam

[Bluespunk]

20 minutes ago, transam said:

I thought you wanted Liz to win, yet you keep posting The Guarian put downs, that is rather confusing.

This link is on topic from your rag, but it points out what your rag is about, just read the headline, your rag doesn't even like the country it writes in.......????

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/guardian-view-liz-truss-little-174543234.html

Ah poor you, do the nasty papers keep reporting the facts,,,how dare they expose truss’ flawed policies and the consequences of them. 

 

The guardian isn’t mine. 

 

The article you post a link to ((I read it rather than just the headline…) is not anti U.K., it is just an opinion piece based on truss’ policies and the likely effect of them. 
 

Though as you seem to believe any view on the U.K. that does not chime with yours is anti, it’s no surprise you came to the incorrect conclusion you did. 

Edited August 23, 2022 by Bluespunk

[transam]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

Ah poor you, do the nasty papers keep reporting on the facts..,

 

The guardian isn’t mine. 

 

The article you post a link to ((I read it rather than just the headline…) is not anti U.K., it is just an opinion piece based on truss’ policies and the likely effect of them. 
 

Though as you seem to believe any view on the U.K. that does not chime with yours is anti, it’s no surprise you came to the incorrect conclusion you did. 

????...............It's an anti-anything paper, that headline says it all, and you always consult it, every single day.........????

No excuses now....????

 

Anyhoooo, why are you not supporting our Liz in this thread, I thought you wanted her to win, or are you getting confused........????

[placeholder]

24 minutes ago, transam said:

So now a PM is a sewer inspector, others control that sort of stuff, unless you know different....

And what has it to do with this thread....?

So controlling pollution isn't within the remit of a Prime Minister? Does that go for all PM's or just Tories?

And you posed a question so I answered it.

[Bluespunk]

Just now, transam said:

????...............It's an anti-anything paper, that headline says it all, and you always consult it, every single day.........????

No excuses now....????

 

Anyhoooo, why are you not supporting our Liz in this thread, I thought you wanted her to win, or are you getting confused........????

Nope.
 

Just reports truths you don’t want to see or hear. Truth a little too much for you?

 

Anyhoooo, this thread isn’t about news sources, so why not get back on topic eh… unless of course you can’t refute the facts being reported on truss…
 

 

[placeholder]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Anyhoooo, why are you not supporting our Liz in this thread, I thought you wanted her to win, or are you getting confused........????

You make a good point. But the thing is, it's so tempting to ridicule her. She's such an easy and clueless target. I will grant you though that the very ease of it means it's really not sporting. Bluespunk should be ashamed of his conduct.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, transam said:

????...............It's an anti-anything paper, that headline says it all, and you always consult it, every single day.........????

No excuses now....????

 

Anyhoooo, why are you not supporting our Liz in this thread, I thought you wanted her to win, or are you getting confused........????

What on earth gave you the idea that Truss needs support from anyone outside the narrow confines of the Tory party?

 

Truss is a gift to the opposition parties, unfortunately her policies are going to dish out real harm to millions of people already suffering from (that list of problems that you frequently try to shutdown discussion on).

[transam]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

You make a good point. But the thing is, it's so tempting to ridicule her. She's such an easy and clueless target. I will grant you though that the very ease of it means it's really not sporting. Bluespunk should be ashamed of his conduct.

So you admit to targeting, the easier, the better, it seems.

Is that why you don't target Rishi, to difficult for you, after all, the Blues in general are your targets, aren't they.. ????

[placeholder]

13 minutes ago, transam said:

So you admit to targeting, the easier, the better, it seems.

Is that why you don't target Rishi, to difficult for you, after all, the Blues in general are your targets, aren't they.. ????

Easier because she's cluleless. And we know she's clueless because of the foolish comments she consistently makes. And foolish comments invite ridicule.

[baboon]

Just now, placeholder said:

Easier because she's cluleless. And we know she's clueless because of the foolish comments she consistently makes. And foolish comments invite ridicule.

Like the one you just replied to...

[transam]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

Nope.
 

Just reports truths you don’t want to see or hear. Truth a little too much for you?

 

Anyhoooo, this thread isn’t about news sources, so why not get back on topic eh… unless of course you can’t refute the facts being reported on Truss…
 

 

The Guardian truths the lefty and anti-British British want to hear, it's as plain as day, that's why most stay away from it...????

 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, baboon said:

Like the one you just replied to...

Are you ever going to post something regarding the thread title, Bab's....?   ????

[Bluespunk]

40 minutes ago, transam said:

The Guardian truths the lefty and anti-British British want to hear, it's as plain as day, that's why most stay away from it...????

 

Utter nonsense...but yes, I do get that you want to avoid reality, it really isn't your thing.

 

Edited August 23, 2022 by Bluespunk

[Bluespunk]

40 minutes ago, transam said:

Are you ever going to post something regarding the thread title, Bab's....?   ????

Ah, the irony

[transam]

8 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Utter nonsense...but yes, I do get that you want to avoid reality, it really isn't your thing.

 

Nor is Lefty-ism................????

[Chomper Higgot]

58 minutes ago, transam said:

The Guardian truths the lefty and anti-British British want to hear, it's as plain as day, that's why most stay away from it...????

 

And 

56 minutes ago, transam said:

Are you ever going to post something regarding the thread title, Bab's....?   ????

 

[transam]

47 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And 

 

And what....?  ????

 

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Nor is Lefty-ism................????

Get on topic or go back to your bridge.

[transam]

7 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Get on topic or go back to your bridge.

I don't play Bridge, wrong again....????

 

I just hope Rishi hasn't got a balcony at his place, eh....

Nice outfit, fit for No.10.....????

 

 

[baboon]

“I will also continue to stand up for Vladimir Putin!”

 

                                                                           Liz Truss.

[transam]

4 minutes ago, baboon said:

“I will also continue to stand up for Vladimir Putin!”

 

                                                                           Liz Truss.

I assume you are a Rishi Sunak supporter....????

[Bluespunk]

8 minutes ago, transam said:

I don't play Bridge, wrong again....????

 

I just hope Rishi hasn't got a balcony at his place, eh....

Nice outfit, fit for No.10.....????

 

 

Bring it on, a truss win benefits the opposition.

 

''For Truss, the strength of the internal opposition could also be significant if she wins power as expected. Her top team of fervent supporters is largely from the right of the party, apart from a few outliers such as Tom Tugendhat, a former contender, and Robert Buckland, who switched from supporting Sunak as Truss’s lead became larger.

 

That leaves a fairly sizeable group of former cabinet ministers and potential critics on the backbenches observing her economic plans with a sceptical eye. They have been saying that unfunded tax cuts and insufficient help for the poorest will backfire, while team Truss has been keen to play down the need for “Gordon Brown-style handouts” and the likelihood of recession.''

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/22/tory-big-beasts-put-careers-on-line-with-aggressive-criticism-of-truss

[baboon]

 

This will soon be running an actual country...

[RayC]

5 hours ago, transam said:

I thought you wanted Liz to win, yet you keep posting The Guarian put downs, that is rather confusing.

This link is on topic from your rag, but it points out what your rag is about, just read the headline, your rag doesn't even like the country it writes in.......????

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/guardian-view-liz-truss-little-174543234.html

That's the Guardian's take on things.

 

As a staunch supporter of Truss, what's your alternative, positive vision of the UK look like under a  government led by her? For example, can you explain how ignoring the SNP will keep the Union together? How will her hard-line attitude towards the EU improve relations with them?

[transam]

1 hour ago, RayC said:

That's the Guardian's take on things.

 

As a staunch supporter of Truss, what's your alternative, positive vision of the UK look like under a  government led by her? For example, can you explain how ignoring the SNP will keep the Union together? How will her hard-line attitude towards the EU improve relations with them?

I have no idea how things will work out, nobody does, at the mo its all just assumptions and guesswork.

 

The thread is about two folk who were voted for by the Blue Party MP's to fight it out for one to be leader of their Party.

I hope Liz gets the job... ????

[RayC]

26 minutes ago, transam said:

I have no idea how things will work out, nobody does, at the mo its all just assumptions and guesswork.

 

The thread is about two folk who were voted for by the Blue Party MP's to fight it out for one to be leader of their Party.

I hope Liz gets the job... ????

But why? What is it about her that makes you think that she is the most suitable for the job? 

 

You dismiss the Guardian article as being anti-British, but it raises genuine concerns - among people who consider themselves patriots - about what might happen if she enacts what she promises.

 

Why is the Guardian wrong in its' analysis? Some of us would like reassurance as we struggle to visualise what this positive outcome under Truss looks like.

[transam]

10 minutes ago, RayC said:

But why? What is it about her that makes you think that she is the most suitable for the job? 

 

You dismiss the Guardian article as being anti-British, but it raises genuine concerns - among people who consider themselves patriots - about what might happen if she enacts what she promises.

 

Why is the Guardian wrong in its' analysis? Some of us would like reassurance as we struggle to visualise what this positive outcome under Truss looks like.

Very funny, the lefty's on this thread aren't the slightest bit interested in who wins, it is just a dig at the Blues exercise, and I don't have to give any reason whatsoever why I back Truss.

 

Just keep in mind that the bigger % of Blues back Truss, and not forgetting high ranking Blue MP's too....

 

There is no way whatsoever you will convince me otherwise about The Guardian, or indeed The Independent, so forget that line....????

[baboon]

1 hour ago, RayC said:

But why? What is it about her that makes you think that she is the most suitable for the job? 

 

You dismiss the Guardian article as being anti-British, but it raises genuine concerns - among people who consider themselves patriots - about what might happen if she enacts what she promises.

 

Why is the Guardian wrong in its' analysis? Some of us would like reassurance as we struggle to visualise what this positive outcome under Truss looks like.

She is the more right wing of the two. Simple as that. That is why he likes her.

[RayC]

39 minutes ago, transam said:

Very funny, the lefty's on this thread aren't the slightest bit interested in who wins, it is just a dig at the Blues exercise,

I wasn't intending to be funny. I was trying to engage you in a debate about the policies of our (likely) future PM. However, you are either unwilling or unable to do so, and simply resort to the usual nonsensical 'lefty' labelling claptrap.

 

39 minutes ago, transam said:

 

and I don't have to give any reason whatsoever why I back Truss.

No you don't, but the absence of any reason would suggest that it is simply blind faith on your part that Truss will turn out to be a good PM. Shades of Brexit (I know, off-topic).

 

39 minutes ago, transam said:

 

Just keep in mind that the bigger % of Blues back Truss,

And your point is?

 

39 minutes ago, transam said:

 

and not forgetting high ranking Blue MP's too....

Really? Most of the cabinet were backing Sunak until recently. Some (most?) have changed sides recently. I wonder why? Perhaps, self-interest might have something to do with it?

 

39 minutes ago, transam said:

 

There is no way whatsoever you will convince me otherwise about The Guardian, or indeed The Independent, so forget that line....????

I was hoping against hope - and the weight of evidence - that you might be open-minded enough to engage in discussion.

 

However, by your own admission,  you know what you know and no one, or nothing, is going to convince you otherwise, eh?

 

More shades of Brexit, methinks (sorry, off-topic yet again. Sometimes I can't help myself).

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, transam said:

Very funny, the lefty's on this thread aren't the slightest bit interested in who wins, it is just a dig at the Blues exercise, and I don't have to give any reason whatsoever why I back Truss.

 

Just keep in mind that the bigger % of Blues back Truss, and not forgetting high ranking Blue MP's too....

 

There is no way whatsoever you will convince me otherwise about The Guardian, or indeed The Independent, so forget that line....????

Nobody is trying to convince you of anything, you are already far too gone on your ‘blue/red/green/yellow team’ simplistic nonsense to be convinced of anything.

 

However all is not lost.

 

You’ve made a number of categorical statements that we can all come back to in the months ahead.