Is this being racist?

[BonMot]

8 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That may be the way "real" men behave .

But Gentlemen behave in a more refined manner .

Not calling people names or verbally abusing them and not settling disagreements with a fight .

   BTW , are you from Australia perchance ?

I totally agree.

 

Calling someone out with an disparaging epithet to their face is uncouth and generally speaking ungentlemanly.

 

Trolling morons using gender pronouns not so much.

Edited August 25, 2022 by BonMot

[Jingthing]

18 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Demonstrating consideration for minorities is "failed thinking"?

To the sort that use "woke" as an attack word, it sure is.

[Jingthing]

Just now, BonMot said:

I totally agree.

 

Calling someone out with an disparaging epithet to their face is uncouth and generally speaking ungentlemanly.

 

Gender pronouns not so much.

Yeah better to do it behind their backs.

As someone that can "pass" in two regards, I know that is real. 

[BonMot]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I call B.S.!

 

White resentment is a social disease. 

What's referred to is if you ADD UP all the NON-WHITES then whites will eventually be a little less than 50 percent, Get the BIG difference?

 

The US will become ‘minority white’ in 2045, Census projects (brookings.edu)

Brookings lol.

 

Agenda much?

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, BonMot said:

Brookings lol.

 

Agenda much?

Do you question the statistics?!? If so, present your source. 

[BonMot]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Do you question the statistics?!? If so, present your source. 

You didn't even read it. You came to this thread in your superman underwear and slapped that up there trusting Brookings liberal and highly dubious think tank would CYA.

 

You didn't read that. You didn't quote anything nor did you have anything specific to state about it.

[Bday Prang]

12 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Which list are you referring to ?

this one:- 

 

On 8/24/2022 at 3:08 AM, Thunglom said:

 

Tropes and clichés used by racists …..

1.     Playing "the race card"

2.     Dismissing an individual who brings up race / culture in a discussion

3.     use of the concept of “other” (we/them syndrome)

4.     Stereotyping of an entire nationality.

5.     “I married one, so I can’t be racist, can I?”

6.     Logical Fallacies: false authority- the use of “expert” – i.e. concentration on the messenger rather than the message.

7.     No true Scotsman – the arguer is wrong as they don’t represent the argument e.g. You don’t live there or in Thailand.

8.     Conviction that personally they have superior abilities to the people they are criticising

9.     Over-use of the 3rd person plural pronouns and adjectives, (e.g. - them, they, their)

10.  “They” come over here….

11.  Sweeping subjective generalisations about nationality, creed, colour

12.  It’s a religion, so that’s not racist, is it?

13.  Incorrect use of the word "culture" - It’s in their “culture”

14.  Failure to distinguish between prejudice, assumption or opinion and "fact"

15.  Spend a lot of time arguing something is not racist.

16.  “Some of my best friends are…..”

17.  “I’ve got nothing against them, but……..”

18.  “They come over here…”

19.  “Did you hear the one about?…….”

20.  “coloureds”

21.  “racialist” (as opposed to “racist”)

22.  “It’s PC gone mad!”

23.  Using “woke” as a derogatory term.

24.  “(They’re a)Dysfunctional race”

25.  “Some of them are racist too!”

26.  Racism is “natural”

27.  "ALL lives matter"

28.  “They’re great (any hobby or activity). . But they can’t (any hobby or activity)….”

29.  “A lot of minorities are too sensitive,” 

30.  Microaggressions, in the everyday exchanges = “Everyone can succeed in this society, if they work hard enough.”

 

If you can tick any of these, you are probably racist.

never really considered myself a racist but I think i tick most of the boxes, I wonder if any other members have failed  "The racism test"

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

this one:- 

 

never really considered myself a racist but I think i tick most of the boxes, I wonder if any other members have failed  "The racism test"

OK, number two on the list . 

I wasn't dismissing a person who bought up race in the discussion .

I posted a link to actual laws to show what the law states 

[talahtnut]

Racism, a word used by evil governments to sow division

among the people.

When two strangers meet, they categorise each other within

milliseconds, foe or friend, its mans natural defence mechanism.

Black, white, yellow, green, doesn't matter.

[richard_smith237]

3 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

On 8/24/2022 at 3:08 AM, Thunglom said:

 

Tropes and clichés used by racists …..

1.     Playing "the race card"

2.     Dismissing an individual who brings up race / culture in a discussion

3.     use of the concept of “other” (we/them syndrome)

4.     Stereotyping of an entire nationality.

5.     “I married one, so I can’t be racist, can I?”

6.     Logical Fallacies: false authority- the use of “expert” – i.e. concentration on the messenger rather than the message.

7.     No true Scotsman – the arguer is wrong as they don’t represent the argument e.g. You don’t live there or in Thailand.

8.     Conviction that personally they have superior abilities to the people they are criticising

9.     Over-use of the 3rd person plural pronouns and adjectives, (e.g. - them, they, their)

10.  “They” come over here….

11.  Sweeping subjective generalisations about nationality, creed, colour

12.  It’s a religion, so that’s not racist, is it?

13.  Incorrect use of the word "culture" - It’s in their “culture”

14.  Failure to distinguish between prejudice, assumption or opinion and "fact"

15.  Spend a lot of time arguing something is not racist.

16.  “Some of my best friends are…..”

17.  “I’ve got nothing against them, but……..”

18.  “They come over here…”

19.  “Did you hear the one about?…….”

20.  “coloureds”

21.  “racialist” (as opposed to “racist”)

22.  “It’s PC gone mad!”

23.  Using “woke” as a derogatory term.

24.  “(They’re a)Dysfunctional race”

25.  “Some of them are racist too!”

26.  Racism is “natural”

27.  "ALL lives matter"

28.  “They’re great (any hobby or activity). . But they can’t (any hobby or activity)….”

29.  “A lot of minorities are too sensitive,” 

30.  Microaggressions, in the everyday exchanges = “Everyone can succeed in this society, if they work hard enough.”

 

If you can tick any of these, you are probably racist.

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never really considered myself a racist but I think i tick most of the boxes, I wonder if any other members have failed  "The racism test"

Lists like this are never realistic....   I’m also an alcoholic if I go by the AA list, I’m most definitely not  by any stretch of the imagination. 

 

 

.....And ‘woke’ most definitely can be derogatory term....  It kneecaps the logic and intelligent basis of any discussion with a political correctness which may itself be damaging... and in many cases PC most definitely has gone mad !!!!...  

 

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

13 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

this one:- 

 

never really considered myself a racist but I think i tick most of the boxes, I wonder if any other members have failed  "The racism test"

Who made the list though ?

It seems to be just a person trying to convince everyone else that they are racists .

   I would say that every person in the World would tick a few of those boxes , so everyone in the world is a racist .

   Saying "All Thai people are nice" would tick box number 4 .

"Land of smiles" would be a racist term , as it stereotypes a whole nation .

[Jingthing]

22 minutes ago, BonMot said:

You didn't even read it. You came to this thread in your superman underwear and slapped that up there trusting Brookings liberal and highly dubious think tank would CYA.

 

You didn't read that. You didn't quote anything nor did you have anything specific to state about it.

Ad hominem garbage.

 

I posted it to show that US whites are not literally becoming a minority but only becoming less than 50 percent compared to all non whites.

 

That link did that. 

 

White resentment sufferers hear whites are becoming a minority and often don't register that difference in definition of minority.

 

The rules here forbid quoting more than the first sentences of any link.

 

Brookings is a mainstream centrist source overall. Not that it matters in this context.

[Bday Prang]

19 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

OK, number two on the list . 

I wasn't dismissing a person who bought up race in the discussion .

I posted a link to actual laws to show what the law states 

I wasn't accusing you or anything,  I was just showing you his    (Thunglom), amazing   3 min "racism test" as in a previous post you indicated that didn't know about it.     I haven't been following your discussions with him  purely an informative post   I think he wrote it himself

[Bday Prang]

13 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Who made the list though ?

It seems to be just a person trying to convince everyone else that they are racists .

   I would say that every person in the World would tick a few of those boxes , so everyone in the world is a racist .

   Saying "All Thai people are nice" would tick box number 4 .

"Land of smiles" would be a racist term , as it stereotypes a whole nation .

Couldn't agree more but there will be something on the list that applies to what you have just said, Its that kind of list. LOL  once he has outed you as a racist you will never hear the last of it ( until you get "cancelled")

[TKDfella]

1 hour ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

I prefer the term my Wife uses.......farang kee nok.............tells me it s a term of endearment

Ha, really? You looked up ฝรั่งขี้นก then?

[Neeranam]

3 hours ago, BonMot said:

Last breath (or gasp) of fresh air. But even Asia has caught the disease.

 

Oh, the humanity!!!!

 

I'll take freedom of speech over some simp concern of being offended.

 

It's racist wah wah wah... you're a bigot boo hoo hoo. Bunch of Karen's.

My daughter was watching a video last week of myself holding a Golliwog when I was young and said they are banned these days. Is this true? 

[Mac Mickmanus]

9 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

My daughter was watching a video last week of myself holding a Golliwog when I was young and said they are banned these days. Is this true? 

Yes, golliwog was used to racially abuse Black people , often shortened to just "<deleted>" and was similarly used to the N word and so Golliwogs were banned and the U.K has managed to survive without them 

[Neeranam]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, golliwog was used to racially abuse Black people , often shortened to just "<deleted>" and was similarly used to the N word and so Golliwogs were banned and the U.K has managed to survive without them 

My gran made me it. She used to call my friend from Sierra Leone the same word, and there was no racism intended. Similar to older people here calling me a farang. 

[Neeranam]

On 8/22/2022 at 1:38 PM, problemfarang said:

And the german said 'thats how we understand where you are from (mentioning his country) in my country.

Why the secret? Where is he from?

[Mac Mickmanus]

10 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

My gran made me it. She used to call my friend from Sierra Leone the same word, and there was no racism intended. Similar to older people here calling me a farang. 

That was before the National Front began spraying "golliwogs  out" on walls all over the place and it becoming a term of abuse 

Edited August 25, 2022 by Mac Mickmanus

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

I wasn't accusing you or anything,  I was just showing you his    (Thunglom), amazing   3 min "racism test" as in a previous post you indicated that didn't know about it.     I haven't been following your discussions with him  purely an informative post   I think he wrote it himself

I see . 

I stated what the law was in regards to a racial attack .

My intelligence levels were questioned 

I then posted the law along with the link to the Government website stating the law . 

   I then fell foul of number 2 on the list and that means I must be a racist .

   So, because I posted the  law to show what the law says , that means I am a racist and am also intellectually challenged   ?..............for stating the law!!!!!!!

[Thunglom]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Ad hominem garbage.

 

I posted it to show that US whites are not literally becoming a minority but only becoming less than 50 percent compared to all non whites.

 

That link did that. 

 

White resentment sufferers hear whites are becoming a minority and often don't register that difference in definition of minority.

 

The rules here forbid quoting more than the first sentences of any link.

 

Brookings is a mainstream centrist source overall. Not that it matters in this context.

61.6%

Overall, 235.4 million people reported White alone or in combination with another group. The White alone population accounted for 204.3 million people and 61.6% of all people living in the United States, compared with 223.6 million and 72.4% in 2010.12 Aug 2021

 

So what? Only  racist would consider they need to be a majority.

[Thunglom]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

My gran made me it. She used to call my friend from Sierra Leone the same word, and there was no racism intended. Similar to older people here calling me a farang. 

this statement is a perfect example of racism.. Pretty-much wrong at every turn

Edited August 25, 2022 by Thunglom

[Jingthing]

14 minutes ago, Thunglom said:

61.6%

Overall, 235.4 million people reported White alone or in combination with another group. The White alone population accounted for 204.3 million people and 61.6% of all people living in the United States, compared with 223.6 million and 72.4% in 2010.12 Aug 2021

 

So what? Only  racist would consider they need to be a majority.

Many US whites fear losing their privilege and having to compete on a level playing field with non whites. So that fear fuels anti democratic pro authoritarian white nationalist political movements based on white resentment.

[Neeranam]

On 8/23/2022 at 9:56 PM, problemfarang said:

 

I didnt mean its because he is german. I mentioned his nationality just to understand if its a common and normal thing for german people. It would affect my judgment in this case, and my report. 

I think we are all racist to some degree based on our upbringing. 

Many Germans my age had grandparents in the war,  so understandable. 

My grandparents didn't like Germans understandably ,  and maybe that's why they are not my favourite country. My gran,  who died recently at 99 1/2, said her great grandparents were subjected to the Genocide in Scotland,  so again understandable why she was wary of Sasenachs. 

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Many US whites fear losing their privilege and having to compete on a level playing field with non whites. So that fear fuels anti democratic pro authoritarian white nationalist political movements based on white resentment.

And some are anti-Trump supremacists. 

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, Thunglom said:

this statement is a perfect example of racism.. Pretty-much wrong at every turn

Huh? 

Not racist at all. 

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, Thunglom said:

So what? Only  racist would consider they need to be a majority.

Woke

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

My gran,  who died recently at 99 1/2, said her great grandparents were subjected to the Genocide in Scotland,  so again understandable why she was wary of Sasenachs. 

Was that when 30 Scottish people got killed in 1690 in Glencoe ?

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

My gran,  who died recently at 99 1/2, said her great grandparents were subjected to the Genocide in Scotland,  so again understandable why she was wary of Sasenachs. 

Was that when 30 Scottish people got killed in 1690 in Glencoe ?