USA Extension Cord (not Power Strip) - 125V/13A/1625W - unusable in Thailand?

[Danderman123]

26 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

You just made my point for me. 

 

3 power strips, and one computer only cable. 

 

I am looking for a 3 conductor extension cord, very common in other countries. But not in Thailand. 

[Danderman123]

12 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

Good catch!

 

I didn't spot any when I looked weeks ago, but gave up and didn't look at all 2,500 hits.

Previously I felt the same as Danderman123.

 

 

 

Is that 1.5 meters in length?

 

On the bottom right it says "Samut Sakhon".

Is that the city that the Seller is located in?

Perhaps you are confusing a power strip with an extension cord. 

 

They are not the same thing. 

[sandyf]

On 9/2/2022 at 12:27 AM, ozimoron said:

220 volts uses half the current for a given wattage. This is more efficient and doesn't require the same amount of copper. It's also why long distance transmission uses a much higher voltage. The practical upshot is that you can have more powerful or more appliances on a given circuit for a given sized breaker.

 

For the OP, the cable would be fine at 220V.

Exactly, many on the thread have got hung up on voltage and load.

If a cable is rated at 13A it is rated at 13A irrespective of the voltage.

There has been a debate over the pros and cons of domestic supply voltage since I started my training in the mid 60s. The 115v may appear to be a saver voltage but I think the higher currents required for most appliances make it more dangerous.

The US use a plug and socket similar to the Thai and I have seen more of those burnt out than I care to remember. Hate to think what it would be like here if they were on 115v.

I was an aircraft instrument engineer and they use 115v 400Hz, the 400Hz allows transformers to be smaller saving both weight and copper. Worst shock was from a 450v DC HT lead, drilled a 1/4 inch hole in my finger and threw me across the room, still here to tell the tale.

[JimmyJ]

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Perhaps you are confusing a power strip with an extension cord. 

 

They are not the same thing. 

Not confusing them (See the title of my post).

 

I didnt look closely enough - I see now that it is a plugin for an appliance, not an extension cord (which typically has 3 plugins available).

 

So I'm back to agreeing with you - they don't seem to exist in Thailand.

[Danderman123]

Just now, JimmyJ said:

Not confusing them (See the title of my post).

 

I didnt look closely enough - I see now that it is a plugin for an appliance, not an extension cord (which typically has 3 plugins available).

 

So I'm back to agreeing with you - they don't seem to exist in Thailand.

You are probably referring to the black computer cable. They don't work as extension cords. 

[Crossy]

9 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I am looking for a 3 conductor extension cord, very common in other countries. But not in Thailand. 

 

Well it was just the first line of the first page.

 

Please post an image of exactly what you are looking for.

 

[JimmyJ]

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You are probably referring to the black computer cable. They don't work as extension cords. 

Yes, I thought Crossy was referring to that one, and that he understood what I was looking for, and then what you are.

 

Perhaps they don't exist in the UK either.

Edited September 11, 2022 by JimmyJ

[Danderman123]

6 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Exactly, many on the thread have got hung up on voltage and load.

If a cable is rated at 13A it is rated at 13A irrespective of the voltage.

Well, no. 

 

13 Amps @ 220 volts = 2,860 watts.

 

13 Amps @ 110 volts = 1,430 watts.

 

Watts are constant in the real world, amps and volts may vary. 

[Danderman123]

4 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

Well it was just the first line of the first page.

 

Please post an image of exactly what you are looking for.

 

3 conductors with standard plugs and receptacles. 

[JimmyJ]

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Edited September 11, 2022 by JimmyJ

[Sophon]

[Crossy]

@Sophon please can you post an actual link to that item so that it can be purchased?

[sandyf]

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Well, no. 

 

13 Amps @ 220 volts = 2,860 watts.

 

13 Amps @ 110 volts = 1,430 watts.

 

Watts are constant in the real world, amps and volts may vary. 

You are completely wrong. A cable will carry whatever current it is designed for, and that will depend on the core thickness.

The rated current should then be adjusted to suit installation, the free air value will be reduced if installed in conduit.

[Sophon]

1 minute ago, Crossy said:

@Sophon please can you post an actual link to that item so that it can be purchased?

link

[JimmyJ]

25 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

Well it was just the first line of the first page.

 

Please post an image of exactly what you are looking for.

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Kasonic-12-Feet-Outlet-Extension-Cord/dp/B07HR26XPG/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=21O1OZTB8XWUU&keywords=kasonic+12-feet+3+outlet+extension+cord+2+pack&qid=1662884340&sprefix=kasonic+12'%2Caps%2C478&sr=8-3

 

E.g., this Kasonic 12 foot is what I have been referring to.

 

Is this still OK for Thailand?

Edited September 11, 2022 by JimmyJ

[JimmyJ]

8 minutes ago, Sophon said:

Not what I'm looking for.

 

Looking for 3 outlets, not 1. 

[lopburi3]

As said Crossy posts are what is true (although personally can not remember having seen extension cords here - only power strips with up to about 3 meter cards most places - but believe Home Pro may have in garden tools section?  And yes have a 45 year old US extension cord with Thai plug/outlet for my use.  The wire is double the size which would normally be used here and insulation still 100% (unlike many cords sold off the shelf here).

 

Short answer is your US extension cord should work fine here and is likely way better than what you can find locally.

 

[sandyf]

10 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

and insulation still 100% (unlike many cords sold off the shelf here).

Quite, but it's that old adage, you only get what you pay for.

Many years ago I had a diesel generator and the only outlet was a single 16A socket.  I bought a cable with a 16A plug on one end and a 3 pin socket on the other which was quite expensive.

When I got rid of the generator I cut the 16A plug off and fitted a normal 3 pin plug. The insulation on that cable has weathered the passage of time a lot better than  other cables I have had.

[Crossy]

31 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

https://www.amazon.com/Kasonic-12-Feet-Outlet-Extension-Cord/dp/B07HR26XPG/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=21O1OZTB8XWUU&keywords=kasonic+12-feet+3+outlet+extension+cord+2+pack&qid=1662884340&sprefix=kasonic+12'%2Caps%2C478&sr=8-3

 

E.g., this Kasonic 12 foot is what I have been teferring to.

 

Is this still OK for Thailand?

 

It would be OK assuming the ratings are realistic.

 

I don't like the single-insulated "speaker cord" type wire although it's common here. For an extension that gets moved around, trodden on etc. it's just too prone to damage.

 

If you already have it, it will be safe enough, but if not then one of the smaller power boards from Lazada will do the trick but do check it's really 3 core cable.

 

Or go to the big box stores and buy a 2 or 4 outlet traily (3 outlet might be available) a length of 1.5mm² 3-core flex and a 3-pin plug and make your own ???? 

 

[MrJ2U]

On 9/1/2022 at 3:09 PM, sometimewoodworker said:

the plugs and sockets are suitable

20 amp plugs will be a problem with the 16 amp socket? 

[Crossy]

On 9/1/2022 at 3:09 PM, sometimewoodworker said:

The extension cable is perfectly usable in Thailand. The 125V 13A rating will be now be 220V 24A.

 

NO!!!

 

It will be 220V 13A!!!

 

[Danderman123]

39 minutes ago, sandyf said:

You are completely wrong. A cable will carry whatever current it is designed for, and that will depend on the core thickness.

The rated current should then be adjusted to suit installation, the free air value will be reduced if installed in conduit.

What part of:

 

"

13 Amps @ 220 volts = 2,860 watts.

 

13 Amps @ 110 volts = 1,430 watts.

 

Watts are constant in the real world, amps and volts may vary." 

 

Is completely wrong? 

[Danderman123]

45 minutes ago, Sophon said:

link

Thanks, I ordered one. 

[lopburi3]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

What part of:

 

"

13 Amps @ 220 volts = 2,860 watts.

 

13 Amps @ 110 volts = 1,430 watts.

 

Watts are constant in the real world, amps and volts may vary." 

 

Is completely wrong? 

As said the available work (watts) changes with increase in voltage (VxA=W).  So if only the 1430w required you could use much smaller wire when change from 110 to 220 volts, but if use same wire you have much higher wattage ability (as long as plug/outlet/source can cope).

[sometimewoodworker]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Good luck finding an electrical 3 conductor cord in Lotus's. 

 

My opinion is that such cords are not available in Thailand. 

Your opinion does not match reality. 

If you want high quality extension cables there are a few choices, either buy a quality one with quality components (not inexpensive) or build one yourself again not in expensive but cheaper. I have done both.

 

here is a quality 8 outlet prebuilt one

 

Quote

One place to buy this

a 2 pin extension 

And a 3 pin extension 

Edited September 11, 2022 by sometimewoodworker

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Your opinion does not match reality. 

If you want high quality extension cables there are a few choices, either buy a quality one with quality components (not inexpensive) or build one yourself again not in expensive but cheaper. I have done both.

 

here is a quality 8 outlet prebuilt one

 

a 2 pin extension 

And a 3 pin extension 

A powerstrip, and a 2 conductor extension cord. Not much of a choice. 

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

As said the available work (watts) changes with increase in voltage (VxA=W).  So if only the 1430w required you could use much smaller wire when change from 110 to 220 volts, but if use same wire you have much higher wattage ability (as long as plug/outlet/source can cope).

You are a little confused here. 

 

For a given wattage, increasing the voltage decreases the amperage. It also allows for a smaller wire. 

 

[sometimewoodworker]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

A powerstrip, and a 2 conductor extension cord. Not much of a choice. 

You are incorrect.
 

The prebuilt extension is a 3 core one with 8 x 3 pin sockets (1.5mm cable).

 

One of the custom extensions is a 2 core one (1.5mm cable).

The other extension is built for the European Schuko system and is 3 core (1.5mm cable).

I haven’t bothered to show the other extension cables, most are 2.5mm.

 

so I cannot see how there is not enough choice.
 

@Danderman123 Please explain what more you would like?

Edited September 11, 2022 by sometimewoodworker

[Danderman123]

This topic: US Extension Cord (Not Powerstrip)

 

Responses: Here’s a Powerstrip for you.

[Danderman123]

6 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

You are incorrect.
 

The prebuilt extension is a 3 core one with 8 x 3 pin sockets (1.5mm cable).

 

One of the custom extensions is a 2 core one (1.5mm cable).

The other extension is built for the European Schuko system and is 3 core (1.5mm cable).

I haven’t bothered to show the other extension cables, most are 2.5mm.

 

so I cannot see how there is not enough choice.
 

@Danderman123 Please explain what more you would like?

This topic is about a US extension cord, not power strips. The extension cord is 3 pin.

 

you offer:

 

A powerstrip

a 2 pin extension cord

some European connector

 

no fun.