"Envious" Pit Bull called Nazi attacks - owner left in a pool of blood

[GreasyFingers]

9 hours ago, JonnyF said:

A few reasons...

 

1. The gf lives at our farm alone while I am away working in BKK

So you have to provide a fear factor for your your wife.

[Fairynuff]

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Never saw anything close to a fact.... could not have been further off the mark!

In your opinion 

[richard_smith237]

8 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

It seems that the reason of many children getting facial attacked by dogs is because the children do not know how to approach a dog. It's not the dog's fault.

Its not the dogs fault it bites a child in the face ???  The dog is just doing what it does right ?

 

And thats the whole point...  a PitBull does what dogs do, but far more aggressively with far more power, far more frequently. 

 

Many of the ‘dangerous’ dogs we discussing are bred to instinctively take the head and back of the neck - this is different from a poorly trained Golden Retriever snapping as a ‘reaction’...

The ‘dangerous dog’ ‘attack’... there was a horrific video of this just last year. 

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1220657-pit-bull-attacks-three-year-old-child-has-to-go-and-live-with-gran-as-parents-demand-dogs-removal/

 

 

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I also agree that young children should not be left alone with any dog, even if its a cockapoo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[radiochaser]

On 9/20/2022 at 2:39 AM, phetphet said:

If she had bought a chihuahua instead, they wouldn't have needed an iron bar to pry its jaws open, and the damage would have been far less.

Then again. A Chihuahua named Nazi might have looked ridiculous. ????

 

Perhaps a little off topic. 

My grandmother had a chihuahua.  It and my aunt's Pekinese, both small dogs, ravaged the fingers on my hand causing me to drip a copious amount of blood.  The only dogs that did when they bit me.   Both times my fingers bled for several minutes before the bleeding stopped!

I can only surmise the dogs did not like me carrying them, even though I carried them the same way as my grandmother and my aunt carried them.  

I have been bitten by other, bigger dogs, including a pit bull that ran from almost 200 feet away to bite me on the leg while I was riding a bicycle.  My aunt's and grandmother's dogs are the only two that drew enough blood to bleed a large amount much less to drip off the wound.   

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by radiochaser

[jacko45k]

11 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

In your opinion 

Schoolyard response.

[IAMHERE]

These dog bite stories should be accompanied with pictures of the serious injury. Google up some images and then  write how sweet these dogs are. 

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[Thingamabob]

14 hours ago, billd766 said:

The reason that I cannot confirm it, is because it was not my post anyway, so there was no need to thank me.

Understood.

[Thingamabob]

On 9/20/2022 at 2:11 PM, IvorBiggun2 said:

You don't know or understand Pit Bulls.

Here's mine. Lovely dog.

 

 

Pit Bulls are friendly, loyal and a lot of fun if properly cared for.

[jacko45k]

2 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Pit Bulls are friendly, loyal and a lot of fun if properly cared for.

For such I believe a Labrador is much better or a collie.... so why get a Pit Bull? I suggest people get them for much different reasons. 

Edited September 22, 2022 by jacko45k

[JonnyF]

14 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

All good , until the builders bring their child into work (at your property) for the day and the dog doesn't recognise the child 

Bring a child to a building site, and then throw it over the 6 foot chainlink fence into the dog's exercise yard without introducing it first? Not the wisest move, although in my case after the surprise of seeing a child thrown over the fence I strongly suspect my dog would inspect the injured child rather than attack it, although I have to admit I haven't tested him with flying children ????.

 

That's a bit like throwing your child into the road and then calling for a ban on cars.????

 

 

[JonnyF]

14 hours ago, GreasyFingers said:

So you have to provide a fear factor for your your wife.

Again, in English please.

[IvorBiggun2]

3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

so why get a Pit Bull?

Why not?

Why buy a Lamborghini when a Ford Escort does basically the same job?

[jacko45k]

Just now, IvorBiggun2 said:

Why not?

Why buy a Lamborghini when a Ford Escort does basically the same job?

So now we say a Pit Bull is a Lambo while a Lab (used to guide blind people for many years) is a Ford Escort.....  such silliness

No, if there is the slightly higher likelihood of it mauling children, it won't happen. Just like I won't be buying a lambo, which couldn't get over the bumps in my road.

[baboon]

On 9/20/2022 at 5:52 PM, Sydebolle said:

Certain dogs should be prohibited by law and Pitbull is one of them. There is no justifiable reason to have such a potential killing machine at home. 
The dog is not at fault but the dog is a dog is a dog and nobody can tell you with 100% certainty what it takes for the dog to go bananas. 
 

What was it Bill Burr said about Pitbulls? Oh yes, "A gun you can pet"...

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Bring a child to a building site, and then throw it over the 6 foot chainlink fence into the dog's exercise yard without introducing it first? Not the wisest move, although in my case after the surprise of seeing a child thrown over the fence I strongly suspect my dog would inspect the injured child rather than attack it, although I have to admit I haven't tested him with flying children ????.

 

That's a bit like throwing your child into the road and then calling for a ban on cars.????

No its not like that at all.....     That is your strawman-fallacy used in desperation to strengthen a flawed argument. 

 

IF you wanted to use 'cars’ as an example... 'It would be like calling for a ban on extremely powerful cars without an MOT’....

 

 

 

[blackshadow]

HAVE it put down....end of story,.......

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

so why get a Pit Bull?

Why not?

Why buy a Lamborghini when a Ford Escort does basically the same job?

No one has mentioned ‘apples / oranges’ yet....   But this question highlights the lengths of flawed logic a PitBull owner will go to, to justify his choice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2022 by richard_smith237

[Thingamabob]

8 minutes ago, blackshadow said:

HAVE it put down....end of story,.......

As has been pointed out several times already, this is not possible legally in Thailand as a result of a decree passed some years ago. 

[Thingamabob]

5 hours ago, IAMHERE said:

These dog bite stories should be accompanied with pictures of the serious injury. Google up some images and then  write how sweet these dogs are. 

Been done already.

[JonnyF]

37 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

No its not like that at all.....     That is your strawman-fallacy used in desperation to strengthen a flawed argument. 

 

IF you wanted to use 'cars’ as an example... 'It would be like calling for a ban on extremely powerful cars without an MOT’....

 

 

 

That's exactly how it is. My pitbull doesn't roam around free in the village. He has an exercise yard on our farm which is made of chainlink fence which mainly serves to keep other dogs in the village away from him as they are very aggressive and I prefer they dont fight each other, but also to stop him wandering onto the road and getting run over.

 

A child couldn't just wander in there as the other poster suggested. 

 

My analogy was not about cars but about deliberately going out of your way to place a child into an imaginary, far fetched situation where it could get hurt to prove your point. You're clutching at straws.

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

That's exactly how it is. My pitbull doesn't roam around free in the village. He has an exercise yard on our farm which is made of chainlink fence which mainly serves to keep other dogs in the village away from him as they are very aggressive and I prefer they dont fight each other, but also to stop him wandering onto the road and getting run over.

 

A child couldn't just wander in there as the other poster suggested. 

 

My analogy was not about cars but about deliberately going out of your way to place a child into an imaginary, far fetched situation where it could get hurt to prove your point. You're clutching at straws.

You are talking about your particular dog in your particular situation in your house .

   We are talking about dogs in general and the dogs that attack people .

   We are not all talking about YOUR dog 

[jollyhangmon]

58 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

As has been pointed out several times already, this is not possible legally in Thailand as a result of a decree passed some years ago. 

... and? Since when exactly does anybody care here, 'legally' ...

 

[IvorBiggun2]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

 

   We are talking about dogs in general and the dogs that attack people .

   We are not all talking about YOUR dog 

When I first bought my Pit Bull, from a policeman, the woman neighbourish got off her ass and went to complain to my MiL about buying it. She was scared and didn't want it around due to phobia. My MiL wouldn't get involved. 

I've had this Pit Bull 7+ years. In that time it has never chased a motorbike, chased a running child, never barks at people, never bit anyone etc etc. But in that time the cow that went to my MiL's dog has done all the previous. She doesn't look after her dog and allows it to attack anyone passing without fear of punishment. But for her to go past my house it's a no no.

[JonnyF]

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

You are talking about your particular dog in your particular situation in your house .

   We are talking about dogs in general and the dogs that attack people .

   We are not all talking about YOUR dog 

Oh dear. It's all becoming a bit tiring????. My (rather obvious?) point is that the problem is the owner, not the dog. 

 

The example re. my particular dog is simply to demonstrate to the hard of understanding that when trained properly and handled responsibly they are no problem at all.

 

Any dog in the wrong hands is potentially dangerous.

 

Get it now ?

[IvorBiggun2]

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Any dog in the wrong hands is potentially dangerous.

 

Same applies to Thais when driving. Time to choose Pit Bull or Thai on a motorcycle? Which is the deadliest?

[JonnyF]

58 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

When I first bought my Pit Bull, from a policeman, the woman neighbourish got off her ass and went to complain to my MiL about buying it. She was scared and didn't want it around due to phobia. My MiL wouldn't get involved. 

I've had this Pit Bull 7+ years. In that time it has never chased a motorbike, chased a running child, never barks at people, never bit anyone etc etc. But in that time the cow that went to my MiL's dog has done all the previous. She doesn't look after her dog and allows it to attack anyone passing without fear of punishment. But for her to go past my house it's a no no.

Same here. 2 of our Thai dogs were left by the previous owner of the land hence couldn't be trained until their later years.

 

They are WAY more trouble than my pitbull.

[Golden Triangle]

3 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

As has been pointed out several times already, this is not possible legally in Thailand as a result of a decree passed some years ago. 

Bring it to me, see how long it lasts................

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Oh dear. It's all becoming a bit tiring????. My (rather obvious?) point is that the problem is the owner, not the dog. 

 

The example re. my particular dog is simply to demonstrate to the hard of understanding that when trained properly and handled responsibly they are no problem at all.

 

Any dog in the wrong hands is potentially dangerous.

 

Get it now ?

You are saying that you dog hasn't attacked anyone yet because its kept in a secure location and where no one can enter , that doesn't detract from the fact that you keep a potentially killer dog on your property .

   You dog is trained to attack any intruders and may even kill them . 

   If for some reason there's a stranger kid on your property and you dog kills that kid , you would be at fault for having a killer dog on your property . 

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

You are saying that you dog hasn't attacked anyone yet because its kept in a secure location and where no one can enter , that doesn't detract from the fact that you keep a potentially killer dog on your property .

   You dog is trained to attack any intruders and may even kill them . 

   If for some reason there's a stranger kid on your property and you dog kills that kid , you would be at fault for having a killer dog on your property . 

A very valid point... 

 

The responsible owners of these dogs which we’d usually see on a dangerous dogs list in countries such as the UK (or even dogs which are banned) always comment how their dogs are well trained and secured, can’t get out, people can’t get in etc.... 

 

Why is that necessary ??....    what are they scared of ?? - the answer is clear, they know the power of their dog and the consequences if ‘something’ triggered the dog. 

 

Thus: IF there was an automatic penalty for the owner, would they own such a dog ? 

Then... would any dog be owned ???

 

This perhaps highlights that all dogs can bite. All dogs can be triggered. But, IF triggered the consequences of a more dangerous dog ‘turning’ are far more severe.... deadly.