Special master questions Trump’s claims about Mar-a-Lago docs being declassified

[Scott]

CNN  — 

Judge Raymond Dearie, the special master overseeing the seizure of documents from Mar-a-Lago, signaled on Tuesday to lawyers for former President Donald Trump that if they don’t make a case that any of the documents were declassified, he would determine that they’re classified.

Out of court, Trump has pushed the claim he declassified all the documents, and his lawyers have raised that possibility in court papers, though they have never explicitly argued that anything was declassified.

Federal prosecutors have argued for weeks that documents seized from Mar-a-Lago that contain classification markings – like “top secret” – should be treated as if they are classified.

 

[Bkk Brian]

Special master to Trump’s lawyers: ‘You can't have your cake and eat it’

 

Judge Raymond Dearie repeatedly challenged Trump’s lawyers for refusing to back up the former president’s claim that he declassified the highly sensitive national security-related records discovered in his residence.

 

Without evidence from Trump, Dearie said his only basis to judge the classification level of the records was the fact that they all bear markings designating them as highly sensitive national security secrets — including some that indicate they contain intelligence derived from human sources and foreign intercepts.

 

But Dearie bristled at the effort by Trump’s lawyers to resist his request for proof that Trump actually attempted to declassify any of the 100 documents that the Justice Department recovered from his estate. 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/20/trump-special-master-judge-mar-a-lago-00057805

 

 

[ThailandRyan]

I feel sorry for all of the people misled by the great snake oil salesman known as the Orangeman.  He has told so many lies that when told over and over again people believe them to be truth.  Well this judge is not putting up with any BS, and this can be observed with his initial assessment of the Trump lawyers attempt at once again playing games.  Trumps attorney's argue that if they give the court what it wants it will lay bare there defense of the Orangeman.  You can not have your cake and eat it to. They tried this route to block the DOJ and FBI of continuing in building the case against Trump and his aides, but at the same time have back themselves into a corner they themselves can not escape from.

[Chomper Higgot]

Has Trump started attacking the ‘Special Master’ yet?

 

 

[Credo]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Has Trump started attacking the ‘Special Master’ yet?

 

 

Coming soon to a media source near you.

 

[ThailandRyan]

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Has Trump started attacking the ‘Special Master’ yet?

 

 

I think he is still trying to figure out how his master plan has hit a major crevice in the road.....he truly believed that this Judges dealings with the FBI would shut the DOJ and FBI's case down........well Mr. Orangeman you can not un-hire him or use your favorite words "Your Fired"....

[Chomper Higgot]

The response from Trump’s legal team that details of how documents were declassified by Trump are being withheld for a future criminal defense is all you need to know.

 

Trump is on indictment watch.

 

Trump knows he’s on indictment watch.

[EVENKEEL]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The response from Trump’s legal team that details of how documents were declassified by Trump are being withheld for a future criminal defense is all you need to know.

 

Trump is on indictment watch.

 

Trump knows he’s on indictment watch.

Is indictment watch the same as "the walls are closing in"

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Is indictment watch the same as "the walls are closing in"

I prefer this one from Dearie

 

Judge Dearie explained that he has a very simple test to determine how he’ll rule, saying if Trump’s lawyers don't officially counter whether the documents Trump took are classified, then Dearie will side with the DOJ. “As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of it,” he said.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Is indictment watch the same as "the walls are closing in"

No, it’s the same as ‘Justice is coming’.

[Bkk Brian]

36 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Has Trump started attacking the ‘Special Master’ yet?

 

 

Oh how will the cult react to this..............????

 

Trump Demands Special Master Be Fired and Replaced with Extra-Special Master

“This Dearie, he’s a beauty, he really is,” Trump told reporters. “He’s asking for information. He’s asking for information like you wouldn’t believe. He’s a bad or sick guy.”

Trump said, “We need somebody in there, somebody who’s more special than this Dearie joker. If Dearie is special, then I don’t know what special is.”

Claiming that Dearie is “rigged against me,” Trump said, “After that guy is fired and goes back to Antifa or wherever he came from, we’ve got to find out what idiot chose him in the first place.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-demands-special-master-be-fired-and-replaced-with-extra-special-master

*Satire Alert

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Oh how will the cult react to this..............????

 

Trump Demands Special Master Be Fired and Replaced with Extra-Special Master

“This Dearie, he’s a beauty, he really is,” Trump told reporters. “He’s asking for information. He’s asking for information like you wouldn’t believe. He’s a bad or sick guy.”

Trump said, “We need somebody in there, somebody who’s more special than this Dearie joker. If Dearie is special, then I don’t know what special is.”

Claiming that Dearie is “rigged against me,” Trump said, “After that guy is fired and goes back to Antifa or wherever he came from, we’ve got to find out what idiot chose him in the first place.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-demands-special-master-be-fired-and-replaced-with-extra-special-master

*Satire Alert

They’ll respond by parroting Trump’s attack on the special master he and his legal team chose.

 

 

 

 

[ThailandRyan]

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Oh how will the cult react to this..............????

 

Trump Demands Special Master Be Fired and Replaced with Extra-Special Master

“This Dearie, he’s a beauty, he really is,” Trump told reporters. “He’s asking for information. He’s asking for information like you wouldn’t believe. He’s a bad or sick guy.”

Trump said, “We need somebody in there, somebody who’s more special than this Dearie joker. If Dearie is special, then I don’t know what special is.”

Claiming that Dearie is “rigged against me,” Trump said, “After that guy is fired and goes back to Antifa or wherever he came from, we’ve got to find out what idiot chose him in the first place.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-demands-special-master-be-fired-and-replaced-with-extra-special-master

*Satire Alert

It was only time before the Orangeman used the word Fired as I suggested in my post above.  This is starting to remind me of a trip to Toy's R Us once upon a time.  A mother had her two children with her and was shopping for a birthday gift for a party the young boy was going to attend, but the daughter was having non of it and flung herself to the floor and proceeded to throw a screaming, crying, temper tantrum.  This so much reminds me of Trumps twitter and social media posts.  The man may have been the POTUS at one time, but he never acted Presidential in any spectrum, always acted like a spoiled child.

 

Using this quote "Trump said, “After that guy is fired and goes back to Antifa or wherever he came from, we’ve got to find out what idiot chose him in the first place." One has to wonder if trump has a split personality disorder as it was he who chose Judge Dearie

Edited September 21, 2022 by ThailandRyan

[Berkshire]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

I feel sorry for all of the people misled by the great snake oil salesman known as the Orangeman.  He has told so many lies that when told over and over again people believe them to be truth. 

It is rather amazing that Trump supporters will still believe him after thousands and thousands of lies.  Fact is, Trump can lie on Twitter or other social media with impunity.  He can lie in interviews.  He can lie to the press.  He can lie to his wife.  One place he can't lie is a court of law.  And that's where he fails time and time again. 

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

It was only time before the Orangeman used the word Fired as I suggested in my post above.  This is starting to remind me of a trip to Toy's R Us once upon a time.  A mother had her two children with her and was shopping for a birthday gift for a party the young boy was going to attend, but the daughter was having non of it and flung herself to the floor and proceeded to throw a screaming, crying, temper tantrum.  This so much reminds me of Trumps twitter and social media posts.  The man may have been the POTUS at one time, but he never acted Presidential in any spectrum, always acted like a spoiled child.

 

Using this quote "Trump said, “After that guy is fired and goes back to Antifa or wherever he came from, we’ve got to find out what idiot chose him in the first place." One has to wonder if trump has a split personality disorder as it was he who chose Judge Dearie

I'm sure its coming but its a satire article. 

[placeholder]

Here's a link to an article showing just how bizarrelly incompetent Trump's legal team is both generally and specifically in the case of the Special Master.

 https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/09/trump-judge-dearie-mar-a-lago-special-master-fail.html

[ThailandRyan]

18 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I'm sure its coming but its a satire article. 

So is my sarcastic post...lol

[bendejo]

In the US when something is special or extra special  it usually means it has added sour cream and guacamole and costs an extra 85 cents.  That's how DT comprehends these terms, and he can't figure how Taco Bell comes up in this case.

 

The judge talking about 'cake' was already making it confusing. 

 

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by bendejo

[bendejo]

Do bear in mind that for Team Orange the goal post is the Supreme Court.  That should take a good piece of time, Judge Clarence will ensure it drags past 2024.

And this is the plan for all the various looming indictments. 

Looks like I'm gonna have to wait a while to hear of that 3am flight to Hungary.  Or Belarus.  Barron will probably be old enough to run for office by then.

 

 

[Berkshire]

22 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Oh how will the cult react to this..............????

 

Trump Demands Special Master Be Fired and Replaced with Extra-Special Master

“This Dearie, he’s a beauty, he really is,” Trump told reporters. “He’s asking for information. He’s asking for information like you wouldn’t believe. He’s a bad or sick guy.”

Trump said, “We need somebody in there, somebody who’s more special than this Dearie joker. If Dearie is special, then I don’t know what special is.”

Claiming that Dearie is “rigged against me,” Trump said, “After that guy is fired and goes back to Antifa or wherever he came from, we’ve got to find out what idiot chose him in the first place.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-demands-special-master-be-fired-and-replaced-with-extra-special-master

*Satire Alert

I like these other satirical headlines....555555

• Mitch McConnell expels Joe Manchin from the Republican Party.
• Josh Hawley worries that being a coward is overshadowing his work as a fascist.
• Steve Bannon’s lawyers argue that imprisoning him would be cruel and unusual punishment to other prisoners.
• Tucker Carlson accuses Joe Biden of lowering gas prices.
• Boris Johnson freaks out after Rudy Giuliani arrives in London to help him.
• Fox News is unable to air the January 6th hearings owing to reruns of the Benghazi hearings.
• Brett Kavanaugh complains that protesters outside his home are obstructing his daily keg deliveries.

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Do bear in mind that for Team Orange the goal post is the Supreme Court.  That should take a good piece of time, Judge Clarence will ensure it drags past 2024.

And this is the plan for all the various looming indictments. 

Looks like I'm gonna have to wait a while to hear of that 3am flight to Hungary.  Or Belarus.  Barron will probably be old enough to run for office by then.

 

 

Not sure a special master hearing can be elevated to the Supreme Court.

[bendejo]

6 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Not sure a special master hearing can be elevated to the Supreme Court.

I mean the case, under appeal.

 

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, bendejo said:

I mean the case, under appeal.

 

You mean after a possible conviction? That in itself will kill any hope the Orange man has of running again....tainted he will permanently be.

[bendejo]

13 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

You mean after a possible conviction? That in itself will kill any hope the Orange man has of running again....tainted he will permanently be.

Well, yeah, that's what he does.  Never take a plea, never admit guilt, never settle.  It really pained him to fork over that $25 million to settle his fake university lawsuit.  "I never settle" sayeth he.   The judge in that case put his feet to the fire, I think he threatened his presidency (this was pre- inauguration).

 

I was somewhat impressed in that post-2020 election period at the prompt way SCOTUS was tossing off those goofy election challenges.

Blocked from running for office again?  C'mon now, you know THAT will be appealed!

 

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by bendejo

[ballpoint]

Dearie me. Trump's been hoisted by his own petard.

[Chomper Higgot]

More troubles heading Trump’s direction?

 

NYAG Tish James has an important announcement’ to make tomorrow 10:30am EDT.

[xylophone]

6 hours ago, ballpoint said:

Dearie me. Trump's been hoisted by his own petard.

Nice play on words @ballpoint or perhaps a "double entendre"!!

[candide]

More bad news! ????

 

New York attorney general files civil fraud lawsuit against Trump, some of his children and his business

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/21/politics/trump-new-york-attorney-general-letitia-james-fraud-lawsuit/index.html

 

""These acts of fraud and misrepresentation were similar in nature, were committed by upper management at the Trump Organization as part of a common endeavor for each annual Statement, and were approved at the highest levels of the Trump Organization -- including by Mr. Trump himself," the lawsuit states."

Edited September 21, 2022 by candide

[ThailandRyan]

The organized crime Rico statute should be used, after all the Trump organization resembles Capones.  Maybe they can rehabilitate Alcatraz for the Trump families new mansion with bars.

Edited September 21, 2022 by ThailandRyan

[ThailandRyan]

The walls for Trump continue to crumble around him.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-classified-documents-justice-department-11th-circuit-court-of-appeals-stay/

 

A federal appeals court on Wednesday granted a request from the Justice Department to allow its investigators to regain access to the roughly 100 documents bearing classification markings that were seized by the FBI during its search at former President Donald Trump's Florida residence.