Popular Post webfact Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2022 By Joe Cusmano TD Guest Writer Guest Writers are not employed, compensated or governed by TD, opinions and statements are from the specific writer directly Authorities have confirmed that international tourists to Bali would not be affected by Indonesia’s contentious sex laws. According to Balinese governor Wayan Koster, “based on the provisions of the new Indonesian criminal code, visitors who visit Bali would not need to worry.” This is because “no checks on marital statuses at tourist accommodations like hotels, villas, guest houses, or spas,” nor inspections by public officials or community groups will be conducted. The global spread of the COVID-19 pandemic caused severe economic devastation in several popular tourist destinations, including Bali. After the pandemic’s initial wave of fear subsided, tourists from across the world began returning to the island’s popular resorts, despite initial concerns that the country’s new criminal law would discourage tourists and harm the country’s international reputation. Full story: https://www.traveldailymedia.com/balis-sex-ban-outside-marriage-wont-affect-tourism-officials-say/ -- © Copyright Travel Daily 2022-12-17 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 According to Balinese governor Wayan Koster, “based on the provisions of the new Indonesian criminal code, visitors who visit Bali would not need to worry.” This is because “no checks on marital statuses at tourist accommodations like hotels, villas, guest houses, or spas,” nor inspections by public officials or community groups will be conducted. I'm betting that there will soon be lots of locals patronizing "accommodations like hotels, villas, guest houses, or spas." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JayClay Posted December 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2022 3 hours ago, webfact said: According to Balinese governor Wayan Koster, “based on the provisions of the new Indonesian criminal code, visitors who visit Bali would not need to worry.” This is because “no checks on marital statuses at tourist accommodations like hotels, villas, guest houses, or spas,” nor inspections by public officials or community groups will be conducted Am I reading this correctly? Is the governor basically saying "it's okay to break the law because you'll be able to get away with it"? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jerno Posted December 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2022 Such a retarded law. 'Nuff said. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hanuman2547 Posted December 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2022 It's good that tourists will not have to worry about this when traveling in the country. A lot of unmarried, but living together for X numbers of years, would be in jeopardy of violating their laws. There are also a lot of married people that don't change their last names but are legally married and don't carry around their marriage certificate. A really poorly planned law. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AhFarangJa Posted December 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2022 Such an archaic, backward state of affairs. I have no intention of travelling there, but if I was in the market for a holiday I would boycott the place. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topt Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 It is not mentioned in the report but in the original news items I read does the law not say something about can only be reported by a parent or similar? Yes here is one quote - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-06/indonesia-bans-cohabitation-between-unmarried-couples/101739410 Quote Couples can only be prosecuted if they are reported by a spouse, parents or their children. So if not officially divorced and going away with a new romantic interest and the other partner is aware (and bears a grudge) they could presumably cause you a world of pain...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey and the Bandit Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 5 hours ago, JayClay said: Am I reading this correctly? Is the governor basically saying "it's okay to break the law because you'll be able to get away with it"? Basically yes, anyway people will just ignore it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayClay Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said: Basically yes, anyway people will just ignore it? Sure. But for me there's a difference between individuals ignoring a law, and a government official saying "this particular law will be easy for you to get away with". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Never trust a muslim based government. never works out well in the end 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lee65 Posted December 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2022 So what happens when inevitably some local police officer or governor doesn't get, or disregards, the memo to 'ignore foreigners breaking the law'? On the bright side, this is another reason to not revisit Indonesia. ???? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2009 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Pity, Indonesia women are dynamite in bed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2009 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: Never trust a muslim based government. never works out well in the end I don't trust anything in Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 I do not trust Muslim governments. The Taliban promised girls would continue to receive education. Words on the wind. If passport surnames don't match does it mean you aren't married? Some women keep their original family name. Do you have to carry a marriage certificate always? How many carry a marriage certificate on holiday? Yes, officials may say the law doesn't affect foreigners. Just to be safe, better not visit anywhere in Indonesia where fanatics will piously report you regardless of their relationship to you and you will get caned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Just about as bad as Thailand . Making Laws and don't worry about them. How stupid is that. Why in Satans name make Laws if No one cares/worries about them ,not even the cops and the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeymaus Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Correct me if I am wrong. The only sex residents can have before marriage is with foreigners or how? All the horny ladies there... Will look for a flight to Bali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Many tourist operators must be scratching there heads on the Indonesians government's decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Fortunately my hand and I have the same last name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2009 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Purdey said: I do not trust Muslim governments. The Taliban promised girls would continue to receive education. Words on the wind. If passport surnames don't match does it mean you aren't married? Some women keep their original family name. Do you have to carry a marriage certificate always? How many carry a marriage certificate on holiday? Yes, officials may say the law doesn't affect foreigners. Just to be safe, better not visit anywhere in Indonesia where fanatics will piously report you regardless of their relationship to you and you will get caned. Exactly. <deleted> em. Who do you they think they are? You can visit a number of other countries in the world ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Hands up - who wants to be a test case? If one of the hotel staff maybe hates (non-Muslim) Farang..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 15 hours ago, webfact said: Authorities have confirmed that international tourists to Bali would not be affected by Indonesia’s contentious sex laws. ???????????? Rrrrrrrright ???? tourists will pay for this. Good source of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 It's probably best for government to stay out of people's bedroom. I can imagine how it will work out when a gay, married couple gets reported. Or an Indonesian national is having a fling with a foreign national? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 10 hours ago, AhFarangJa said: Such an archaic, backward state of affairs. I have no intention of travelling there, but if I was in the market for a holiday I would boycott the place. Or girlcott it, as it were. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 15 hours ago, JayClay said: Am I reading this correctly? Is the governor basically saying "it's okay to break the law because you'll be able to get away with it"? I think it's more "we won't be enforcing this law on tourists so please come/cum". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Are they saying they won't bother Indonesian sex partners of tourists (also expats?) or not? Seems foggy to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still kicking Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 8 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Never trust a muslim based government. never works out well in the end Bali is Hindi mostly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 hours ago, still kicking said: 11 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Never trust a muslim based government. never works out well in the end Bali is Hindi mostly And the Indonesian government is mostly ???????….. erm….. This is a shariafication and a puritanical step backwards…. Kind of like the thin end of the wedge towards an authoritarian Ayatollah-like governance. Potentially frightening stuff really when such laws are even considered pet alone passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still kicking Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Yes, I know what you mean but it will not affect the Tourist from the west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Purdey said: Do you have to carry a marriage certificate always? How many carry a marriage certificate on holiday? A digital copy is available online (Dropbox). & yes, in the Middle East, we have in the past but don’t bother any more. Its a invasive puritanical & stupid rule which highlights how backwards some of these countries are even before scratching the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, still kicking said: Yes, I know what you mean but it will not affect the Tourist from the west You mean it will be selectively unenforced ?….. I’d think so too, but always a worry giving authorities an upper hand for them to apply on a whim or a crack-down….. Its not the law itself which is concerning here, as that is almost impossible to enforce…. It is the how this seemingly innocuous issue is handled and how such policies place the finger on the pulse of opinion & underlying attitudes which draws concern. Edited December 17, 2022 by richard_smith237 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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