The increasing appeal of Pratamanak.

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[BananaStrong]

It's funny to me when 99% of farangs don't even try to pronounce the names correctly.   I learned enough Thai, can read a fair bit, and can definitely tell when something is off.  Like near Chiangmai, I'm going to Pai.  It's not pronounced with a "P" actually.  lol.   Pattaya is also almost never pronounced correctly.  

 

anyhow.............When in Rome, speak like a Norwegian I guess if you have money.........lol

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[Denim]

33 minutes ago, BananaStrong said:

It's funny to me when 99% of farangs don't even try to pronounce the names correctly

Considering the number of ex pat tourists that live in Pattaya , it's incredible that many of them can't even pronounce the name of the place despite living there for years. Still manage to rhyme it with ..

' hay '.

 

Talk about assimilating with local culture. Is Pattaya even representative of Thailand ?

 

A bit like an Asian living in Southall or Leicester and claiming they are 100 percent British through and through.

[proton]

The last coffee shop place looked nice, the rest not so much

[HauptmannUK]

2 hours ago, BananaStrong said:

It's funny to me when 99% of farangs don't even try to pronounce the names correctly.   I learned enough Thai, can read a fair bit, and can definitely tell when something is off.  Like near Chiangmai, I'm going to Pai.  It's not pronounced with a "P" actually.  lol.   Pattaya is also almost never pronounced correctly.  

 

anyhow.............When in Rome, speak like a Norwegian I guess if you have money.........lol

I can also read Thai.  But the reason people say Pai with a 'P' is because that's the way the name was transliterated into English many years ago and that's how its spelt on all the road signs, tourist literature etc. You can't really blame non-Thai speakers. Many transliterations are a bit off....

[scubascuba3]

I like living in Pratumnak,lots to offer around, personally i go central for entertainment. Quiet where i live night time apart from occasional loud exhaust, plus bonus being on a hill is no flooding issues

[JoseThailand]

4 hours ago, HauptmannUK said:

I can also read Thai.  But the reason people say Pai with a 'P' is because that's the way the name was transliterated into English many years ago and that's how its spelt on all the road signs, tourist literature etc. You can't really blame non-Thai speakers. Many transliterations are a bit off....

Because there is no English sound corresponding to an unaspirated "p" (ป). Of course, it's possible to use "p" for the unaspirated ป and "ph" for the aspirated พ. But again, people will try to pronounce "ph" as "f", as heard many times (Fuket instead of Phuket lol).

 

There is simply no correct way to transliterate Thai into plain English letters without creating a specialized transliteration system where letters would have a new meaning, different from English.

Edited January 12, 2023 by JoseThailand

[jacko45k]

How is it easy to get to Sukuimvit as claimed? Do we mean at 5am, because Pattaya Tai, and certainly Threppasit are usually a chore! And a few busy 7-11s do not a Las Vegas make! We got those where I live....

[Henryford]

Pratamnack is nice especially near the Sands there but the main problem is travel. You basically have to use a car/bike to get anywhere. I lived there for a month and it was a real PITA to get there and back.

[PJ71]

10 hours ago, HauptmannUK said:

I can also read Thai.  But the reason people say Pai with a 'P' is because that's the way the name was transliterated into English many years ago and that's how its spelt on all the road signs, tourist literature etc. You can't really blame non-Thai speakers. Many transliterations are a bit off....

I've seen at least 3 or 4 different spellings on road signs.

 

At the end of the day who cares, everyone will understand where you mean no matter how you pronounce it.

[PJ71]

2 hours ago, Henryford said:

Pratamnack is nice especially near the Sands there but the main problem is travel. You basically have to use a car/bike to get anywhere. I lived there for a month and it was a real PITA to get there and back.

Erm, get a bike or a car? no matter where you live i'd consider that essential.

[PJ71]

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

How is it easy to get to Sukuimvit as claimed? Do we mean at 5am, because Pattaya Tai, and certainly Threppasit are usually a chore! And a few busy 7-11s do not a Las Vegas make! We got those where I live....

I have a condo in Cozy beach i use maybe once or twice a month, the long weekends, NY and Songkran are a proper ball ache at that crazy junction near the police box, total gridlock.

 

The rest of the time the traffic is bearable.

[VocalNeal]

12 hours ago, Denim said:

Considering the number of ex pat tourists that live in Pattaya , it's incredible that many of them can't even pronounce the name of the place despite living there for years. Still manage to rhyme it with ..

' hay '.

 

Talk about assimilating with local culture. Is Pattaya even representative of Thailand ?

 

A bit like an Asian living in Southall or Leicester and claiming they are 100 percent British through and through.

Pat Hiya????

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, PJ71 said:

The rest of the time the traffic is bearable.

I suppose one gets used to it, those living in Bangkok do. I am afraid I am not... and do not like driving amongst them at weekends. 

[JimTripper]

7 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I like living in Pratumnak,lots to offer around, personally i go central for entertainment. Quiet where i live night time apart from occasional loud exhaust, plus bonus being on a hill is no flooding issues

You go to my condo for entertainment…

[scubascuba3]

3 hours ago, PJ71 said:

the long weekends, NY and Songkran are a proper ball ache at that crazy junction near the police box, total gridlock.

 

The rest of the time the traffic is bearable.

Perfect place for a roundabout 

[scubascuba3]

7 hours ago, jacko45k said:

How is it easy to get to Sukuimvit as claimed? Do we mean at 5am, because Pattaya Tai, and certainly Threppasit are usually a chore! And a few busy 7-11s do not a Las Vegas make! We got those where I live....

Getting to Sukhumvit on a motorbike is easy enough, car will be a ball ache most places in and around Pattaya

[jacko45k]

8 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Getting to Sukhumvit on a motorbike is easy enough, car will be a ball ache most places in and around Pattaya

Well Threppasit gained a special reputation, as did Tai, not long ago, with major road works.  I did North Rd recently and it was okay. 

[mran66]

8 hours ago, Henryford said:

Pratamnack is nice especially near the Sands there but the main problem is travel. You basically have to use a car/bike to get anywhere. I lived there for a month and it was a real PITA to get there and back.

I've had a small house near Sands for 10yrs, and have to say I am pretty happy with the location still. had a look at few locations every now and then, always concluded nothing better for my lifestyle. Sure you need a motorbike or car to be properly mobile, however with mototaxis and bolt can survive nowadays somehow even without.

 

Getting to Suk is not an issue normally when I need to go as not tied to local working or holiday scedules (i.e excl sat and sun afternoons when bangkokians are heading home). The roadworks in pattaya tai thepparasit in past couple of years have been a pain yes, but even thepparasit will be over soon. Butyes, of course 5-6pm there is traffic everywhere.

 

Weekends and holidays pratamak road tends to be fairly bad at times due to bangkokians heading to the nice cozy beach restaurants for their selfies

 

Going forward my worry is also traffic, though different type: when Panora, Ramada and few other new planned condos finish along Soi 5, Chinese are back, and Indiands possibly finding their way here too, how to get out from here due to the bus traffic.

 

Edited January 13, 2023 by mran66

[mran66]

5 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Perfect place for a roundabout 

...you forgot this intersection is in Thailand...remember the success with the roundabout at watboon/2nd road...

[scubascuba3]

3 hours ago, mran66 said:

...you forgot this intersection is in Thailand...remember the success with the roundabout at watboon/2nd road...

i don't remember that one but Dolphin roundabout was a fail

[Henryford]

22 hours ago, PJ71 said:

Erm, get a bike or a car? no matter where you live i'd consider that essential.

And good luck passing the Police checkpoint at the Pratamnack lights after 10 beers.

[PJ71]

1 hour ago, Henryford said:

And good luck passing the Police checkpoint at the Pratamnack lights after 10 beers.

Have you heard of Bolt?

 

Do you have 10 beers every night? Not all of us feel the need for that and the sensible ones tend to have a sensible plan if they're having a scoof.

[PJ71]

11 minutes ago, mran66 said:

few years ago they converted the traffic light intersection into a small roundabout, with the result of too many accidents as thai people cant or dont know how to behave in roundabout. After a year or two changed back to traffic lights as it has been since.

 

in some other country roundabout would be the ideal solution to that place, however not here without changing the population...

Yeah, roundabout with 'hill starts' from every direction, not good in Land of XXXX

[newnative]

37 minutes ago, mran66 said:

few years ago they converted the traffic light intersection into a small roundabout, with the result of too many accidents as thai people cant or dont know how to behave in roundabout. After a year or two changed back to traffic lights as it has been since.

 

in some other country roundabout would be the ideal solution to that place, however not here without changing the population...

   I remember the roundabout.  I thought it worked pretty well.  You did have to sometimes wait a bit before entering the roundabout but that's also the case at the Dolphin roundabout.  I'd rather wait a bit to enter the roundabout than wait what seems like several minutes for the traffic light there now--often you're sitting there waiting at the red light and no traffic is going through on the green.  In my opinion it was a perfect place for a roundabout and should have been given more time.

[Heng]

Our property portfolio loves this trend and saw it coming decades ago back when pa Tae (who is still alive, bless her) had that little noodle shop on Soi 4.   

[CharlieH]

Off topic, derogatory generalisation, derailing into "traffic" and responses all removed.

 

Please stay on topic and STOP the derogatory Thai remarks please.

[JimTripper]

On 1/12/2023 at 2:02 PM, scubascuba3 said:

I like living in Pratumnak,lots to offer around, personally i go central for entertainment. Quiet where i live night time apart from occasional loud exhaust, plus bonus being on a hill is no flooding issues

I hate the pratumnak hill area. I went in there once to view a condo for rent. I did not even bother to view the unit, just left.

 

all I remember is wild dogs when walking in on keastesin road, no baht bus, and a bunch of moto guys waiting right in front of the condo enterance waiting to ferry people in and out of the area.

Edited January 15, 2023 by JimTripper

[kinyara]

One of the downsides of that area is it seems to attract dodgy wide-boys like the OP.  The Norwegian property ponzi scheme in that area pumped advertising revenue into this forum for years, perhaps unsurprising so little has been reported on that.

 

Buyer beware.

Edited January 15, 2023 by kinyara