Top Thai virologist says if you’re healthy “you can ditch the face mask”

[KannikaP]

15 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said:

Keep up.

That comment is so 2020.????????

So what do the masks do in 2023?

[kotsak]

3 hours ago, stoner said:

what planet am i on ? 

Planet TIT

[Pacific Traveler]

                  To late to try and save face. THIS BS has been thrown against the wall far too long.    Covid and this Pandemic only resides in the minds of the obedient who feel they are virtuous  .    

[edogthong]

3 hours ago, KannikaP said:

The Vaccine is to minimise the effect of the virus IF YOU CATCH IT. It does not prevent you catching it, or spreading it.

That's not what we were told from the beginning. We were told that they were 97% effective in stopping the spread. We now know that they knowingly lied so I'd be very careful about thrusting proven liars.

[OldPedro]

What are they on about? XBB1.5 may be more contagious than previous strains, but it's less serious, no worse than a common cold. People are better off catching this strain than not, because it gives natural immunity, which is more effective than the latest vaccines. Bivalent vaccine is a mix of 25mg/25mg of the original vaccine for the Wuhan virus, and "new" vaccine for BA4/BA5, all of which have disappeared. Why does the medical profession persist with these lies?

[edogthong]

2 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

 

It's pathetic how most people still buy into all this nonsense, even after all these years.

Agreed, but it's completely understandable too. These people are in too deep at this point. They invested their health into the belief that these vaccines and dystopian measures were the way to salvation. Cognitive dissonance now prevents them from accepting the reality that they were duped. They NEED to believe that they made the right choice in letting themselves get injected. Remember, it's easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they've been fooled.

[KannikaP]

22 minutes ago, edogthong said:

That's not what we were told from the beginning. We were told that they were 97% effective in stopping the spread. We now know that they knowingly lied so I'd be very careful about thrusting proven liars.

That's what I was told, from the beginning!

[findlay13]

3 hours ago, KannikaP said:

The dreaded mask is to stop a person from spraying out virus laden spit & breath to infect others.

The Vaccine is to minimise the effect of the virus IF YOU CATCH IT. It does not prevent you catching it, or spreading it.

Don't talk sense around here They don't like it!

[Guderian]

I went back to the UK in September for the first time in three years. No restrictions at all on the flights or in the airports, and certainly none in the UK. I don't know what it is about the country, but everything seems much more crowded than it does in Thailand. Anyway, in spite of having had four jabs in total (2 AZ and 2 Pfizer boosters, the last one in August just a month before flying back), within a week I went down with a dose of Covid. It was like a bad cold but with no coughing or sneezing, just a fever for a week, and then it disappeared, but it left me with long Covid symptoms for 3 more weeks (brain fog, extreme tiredness and loss of appetite and sense of taste). Unfortunately, my brother is almost 7 years older than me and I gave it to him, and he's had the long Covid stuff for more than 3 months and is still trying to get over it.

 

Due to a pre-existing medical condition, I was on the NHS's list of critically at risk people, so in some ways I'm glad I got it as I know now that it won't kill me, thanks to the jabs I'm sure. Dr. Yong, of all people, should know better than to give this blinkered advice. The vaccines will usually stop you from falling seriously ill or dying, but they do not stop you from contracting the virus. This is not controversial and it's widely published. As I found with my brother, you need to consider others, not just yourself (unless you're a selfish, ignorant gobs hite, of course), and wearing a face mask in the presence of vulnerable people should still be recommended based on my own recent experience. I certainly still wear them, because it's a sign of respect for the Thai people working in shops and offices who wear them. Of course, if you have no respect for Thai people and their ways then don't bother, but then why not go and holiday in Ibiza or Aiya Napa instead, lol.

Edited January 13, 2023 by Guderian

[metisdead]

Inflammatory posts and the replies have been removed.

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I get quite a few reports of people catching Covid getting quite sick... not something to play Russian Roulette with.

Me, my woman, and our kids have had COVID 2-3x

Before vaccination, after 1 vaccination, after 2nd vaccination.

The first time we coughed for a bit longer than the next 2x, apart from that no detectable difference.

Our only COVID panic was after our daughter (age22) was rushed to hospital after the 1st vaccination.

 

We must have been lucky and caught the non-dangerous Chinese COVID.

God knows the harm we would have suffered if we had caught the dangerous farang COVID.

Edited January 13, 2023 by BritManToo

[BangkokReady]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

A prominent Thai virologist says healthy people no longer need to wear face masks

Are foreigners included in this?

[PETERTHEEATER]

Ugly people are urged tp ignore the good Doctor's statement

[Moonlover]

4 hours ago, proton said:

If masks are useless why do surgeons wear them?

Because where they carry out their duty is probably the most hazardous place that one can be in, other than possibly a war zone.

 

Please don't try and convince me that a hospital is a pathogen free environment.

[Felt 35]

4 hours ago, mania said:

He has only come forward with this now to cover for Anutin greeting all the Chinese arrivals without a mask

You can be sure of that. He has received his orders just like A.....in not scaring the Chinese so they can come and fill up the government vaults with coins ????

Felt

[Moonlover]

5 hours ago, proton said:

Top virologist who is just an MD and professor of paediatrics at Chula, I will not be taking anything he says too seriously.

Yong Poovorawan is a professor of pediatrics at the Faculty of Medicine of Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok, Thailand. He is known for research in the fields of pediatric hepatology, viral hepatitis and virology, and avian influenza.

 

What are your qualifications Proton?

[BritScot]

6 hours ago, BKKBike09 said:

So ... if you've had Covid or some vax shots, you're now immune. But still need to wear a face mask indoors.

 

Keep up the good work Doc ...

NO! You have never been immune after the jags and you still pass it on if you have had the jag or top up jags! This was made public last year 10th October, 2022;   "Janine Small, president of international markets at Pfizer told the EU Parliament that Pfizer had never carried out any transmission tests after vaccine (the phrase "The Speed Of Science" was born) and turns out they never did which just goes to show never listen to politicians or media because that is where the narrative was pushed.  One just has to look at how many times Biden has had covid. My wife has had all the vax going before she had to stop working due to health (can't say what caused her health  deterioration) got covid after vax 4 and even though her symptoms were that of a cold I obviously got it after 2 vax (about 12 month prior) and my symptoms lasted minutes. Both my children had no symptoms and never vaxed.  

Edited January 13, 2023 by BritScot

[transam]

23 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Yong Poovorawan is a professor of pediatrics at the Faculty of Medicine of Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok, Thailand. He is known for research in the fields of pediatric hepatology, viral hepatitis and virology, and avian influenza.

 

What are your qualifications Proton?

What are yours, in this field.......      .

[Lucky Bones]

2 hours ago, KannikaP said:

So what do the masks do in 2023?

Detract from the beauty of Thai girls faces.

Otherwise absolutely zero.????????

[Aussieroaming]

The reality is people who don't want to wear masks here don't wear them anymore and those that do want to wear a mask are free to do so. Why people get bent out of shape when they see people still wearing masks puzzles me. Its free choice to either wear or not.

 

I think that wearing a mask if you are sick with a respitory issue is probably a good thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[transam]

1 minute ago, Lucky Bones said:

Detract from the beauty of Thai girls faces.

Otherwise absolutely zero.????????

That's in your opinion, the "Absolutely zero", but can you substantiate the "Absolutely zero"...........?   

[Lucky Bones]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

That's in your opinion, the "Absolutely zero", but can you substantiate the "Absolutely zero"...........?   

While I haven't undertaken a house to house doorknock lately, people seem to die with or without masks and with or without C-19.

I doubt if there is accurate data on the masks anywhere.

So, no, I can not substantiate....only my opinion on a forum.

Very subjective stuff.????????

[redwood1]

20 minutes ago, Aussieroaming said:

The reality is people who don't want to wear masks here don't wear them anymore and those that do want to wear a mask are free to do so. Why people get bent out of shape when they see people still wearing masks puzzles me. Its free choice to either wear or not.

 

I think that wearing a mask if you are sick with a respitory issue is probably a good thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like the masks because if a person is wearing a mask, I now know to avoid that person.....They are not someone I want to get to know...

[proton]

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

Yong Poovorawan is a professor of pediatrics at the Faculty of Medicine of Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok, Thailand. He is known for research in the fields of pediatric hepatology, viral hepatitis and virology, and avian influenza.

 

What are your qualifications Proton?

Professor here means very little more than knowing the right people and saying the right things

[paulikens]

Just now, proton said:

If masks are useless why do surgeons wear them?

@proton blood splatter.  nothing to do with viruses. because pre-covid your local GP's weren't wearing them.  which just goes to show they do nothing against viruses.  

[mikeymike100]

6 hours ago, proton said:

If masks are useless why do surgeons wear them?

https://www.surgery.com.au/why-do-surgeons-wear-masks/

[KhonKaenLive]

I haven't worn a mask since May. 

[Thai Visa Member 999999]

8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Only ever wore mask at 7-11 & Makro, when you couldn't get in without one.

 

Mask ... IMHO ... are totally useless at stopping a virus, in most situations.  

How could that be? N95s are perfectly able to filter viral particles. 
 

What is your expertise, if you have one, that might be relevant? 

[Moonlover]

3 hours ago, proton said:

4 hours ago, Moonlover said:

Yong Poovorawan is a professor of pediatrics at the Faculty of Medicine of Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok, Thailand. He is known for research in the fields of pediatric hepatology, viral hepatitis and virology, and avian influenza.

 

What are your qualifications Proton?

 

3 hours ago, proton said:

Professor here means very little more than knowing the right people and saying the right things

Which doesn't answer my question at all, so I'll assume the obvious inference. In fact Dr. Yong is probably far more qualified to comment in this topic than anyone on this forum is or ever has been.

[Bkk Brian]

3 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

https://www.surgery.com.au/why-do-surgeons-wear-masks/

From the link which obviously has blood and droplet secretions as the main benefit but also:

 

"Masks also protect the patient from contact with the surgeon’s respiratory secretions.

Masks are typically worn during surgery to prevent the spread of infection from the surgeon to the patient. Masks are also worn by surgeons to protect themselves from exposure to blood and other body fluids."

"Surgeons sometimes have allergies or get sick, too. If a surgeon has an illness like cold or flu, what could be a minor sickness could become something much worse when they’re in the operating room with their hands inside someone’s body."

"Surgeons and operating room personnel stand for hours during surgeries. As they open their mouths, droplets and microbes might fall on the patient lying on the operating table.

They might also infect the tools they use to make incisions and adjustments on the body they are treating."

Edited January 13, 2023 by Bkk Brian