Andrew Tate to appear in court in Romania as his lawyers argue he should be released

[Rimmer]

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[ozimoron]

42 minutes ago, Mr Derek said:

So you want to lock up everyone you don't like? Without any evidence that they've broken the law? Nice.

The world would be a better place without the cancel culture that you espouse, that tries to force everyone into the same shape as yourself.

You're equating a pending indictment with lack of evidence? Did they randomly pluck this guy off the streets and lock him up?

[Hummin]

50 minutes ago, Mr Derek said:

So you want to lock up everyone you don't like? Without any evidence that they've broken the law? Nice.

The world would be a better place without the cancel culture that you espouse, that tries to force everyone into the same shape as yourself.

The world would be better without people who exploit other people for personal gain and fame! 

 

He's going to court now, so lets see whats happen there! 

 

The documentary made of him, with him as main person in person did not actually make me think he is innocent! 

 

https://www.vicetv.com/en_us/video/the-dangerous-rise-of-andrew-tate/63b846eccd1b8108af2ed424

[Jingthing]

This is a forum so it's a free space for people to express their opinions. My opinion based on evidence that I have read about and viewed is that the chances that Tate is innocent is well under one percent. Again Romania law is based on the Napoleonic code. 

[Mr Derek]

19 hours ago, ozimoron said:

You're equating a pending indictment with lack of evidence? Did they randomly pluck this guy off the streets and lock him up?

Apparently. But it's not random at all. It's purpose is to send a message that machismo is outlawed in today's woke world. That is an active part of the agenda currently promoted by western governments. Romania is part of the EU, remember - they will be under political pressure to toe the line.

I'll be surprised if they actually convict them of anything in the end though. They'll let them go after having put them through this punishment that sends a message to society.

 

My point is that this is a very dangerous path to do down. Once all the real men, the macho men, the don't-give-a-damn-about-feelings men have been cancelled, suppressed, outlawed, eradicated from society by those who are insecure, we'll soon discover why we needed them. It's a mistake to interfere with the natural way of things. This post-human world is on a trajectory beyond nature, which is very worrying indeed for those with the foresight to understand the consequences. 

 

 

 

[ozimoron]

10 minutes ago, Mr Derek said:

Apparently. But it's not random at all. It's purpose is to send a message that machismo is outlawed in today's woke world. That is an active part of the agenda currently promoted by western governments. Romania is part of the EU, remember - they will be under political pressure to toe the line.

I'll be surprised if they actually convict them of anything in the end though. They'll let them go after having put them through this punishment that sends a message to society.

 

My point is that this is a very dangerous path to do down. Once all the real men, the macho men, the don't-give-a-damn-about-feelings men have been cancelled, suppressed, outlawed, eradicated from society by those who are insecure, we'll soon discover why we needed them. It's a mistake to interfere with the natural way of things. This post-human world is on a trajectory beyond nature, which is very worrying indeed for those with the foresight to understand the consequences.

So not about human trafficking? There's a lot wrong with this post.

[Jingthing]

17 minutes ago, Mr Derek said:

Apparently. But it's not random at all. It's purpose is to send a message that machismo is outlawed in today's woke world. That is an active part of the agenda currently promoted by western governments. Romania is part of the EU, remember - they will be under political pressure to toe the line.

I'll be surprised if they actually convict them of anything in the end though. They'll let them go after having put them through this punishment that sends a message to society.

 

My point is that this is a very dangerous path to do down. Once all the real men, the macho men, the don't-give-a-damn-about-feelings men have been cancelled, suppressed, outlawed, eradicated from society by those who are insecure, we'll soon discover why we needed them. It's a mistake to interfere with the natural way of things. This post-human world is on a trajectory beyond nature, which is very worrying indeed for those with the foresight to understand the consequences. 

 

 

 

His arrest has NOTHING to do with all that but hilarious to read your post as I'm sure it's a ridiculous conspiracy theory that represents the views of many.

[mikeymike100]

24 minutes ago, Mr Derek said:

Apparently. But it's not random at all. It's purpose is to send a message that machismo is outlawed in today's woke world. That is an active part of the agenda currently promoted by western governments. Romania is part of the EU, remember - they will be under political pressure to toe the line.

I'll be surprised if they actually convict them of anything in the end though. They'll let them go after having put them through this punishment that sends a message to society.

 

My point is that this is a very dangerous path to do down. Once all the real men, the macho men, the don't-give-a-damn-about-feelings men have been cancelled, suppressed, outlawed, eradicated from society by those who are insecure, we'll soon discover why we needed them. It's a mistake to interfere with the natural way of things. This post-human world is on a trajectory beyond nature, which is very worrying indeed for those with the foresight to understand the consequences. 

 

 

 

Fair enough, but allegedly he has broken several laws? Human trafficking being one of them, which is extremely serious? If they gather enough evidence he will be charged, if not they will have to free him?

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3 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

Fair enough, but allegedly he has broken several laws? Human trafficking being one of them, which is extremely serious? If they gather enough evidence he will be charged, if not they will have to free him?

I don't think you understand. Laws about human trafficking and such don't apply to what Mr.Derek calls "real men".

[Berkshire]

1 hour ago, Mr Derek said:

My point is that this is a very dangerous path to do down. Once all the real men, the macho men, the don't-give-a-damn-about-feelings men have been cancelled, suppressed, outlawed, eradicated from society by those who are insecure, we'll soon discover why we needed them. It's a mistake to interfere with the natural way of things.

 

 

So your idea of a "real man" is this guy Tate?  That's just sick, man.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Mr Derek said:

Apparently. But it's not random at all. It's purpose is to send a message that machismo is outlawed in today's woke world. That is an active part of the agenda currently promoted by western governments. Romania is part of the EU, remember - they will be under political pressure to toe the line.

I'll be surprised if they actually convict them of anything in the end though. They'll let them go after having put them through this punishment that sends a message to society.

 

My point is that this is a very dangerous path to do down. Once all the real men, the macho men, the don't-give-a-damn-about-feelings men have been cancelled, suppressed, outlawed, eradicated from society by those who are insecure, we'll soon discover why we needed them. It's a mistake to interfere with the natural way of things. This post-human world is on a trajectory beyond nature, which is very worrying indeed for those with the foresight to understand the consequences. 

 

 

 

Trafficking women, imprisoning them and raping them being the hallmarks of these ‘real men’ who’s future you seem so concerned about.

 

There very many positive examples of masculinity, the abuse and rape of women are not amongst them.

[Hummin]

2 hours ago, Mr Derek said:

Apparently. But it's not random at all. It's purpose is to send a message that machismo is outlawed in today's woke world. That is an active part of the agenda currently promoted by western governments. Romania is part of the EU, remember - they will be under political pressure to toe the line.

I'll be surprised if they actually convict them of anything in the end though. They'll let them go after having put them through this punishment that sends a message to society.

 

My point is that this is a very dangerous path to do down. Once all the real men, the macho men, the don't-give-a-damn-about-feelings men have been cancelled, suppressed, outlawed, eradicated from society by those who are insecure, we'll soon discover why we needed them. It's a mistake to interfere with the natural way of things. This post-human world is on a trajectory beyond nature, which is very worrying indeed for those with the foresight to understand the consequences. 

 

 

 

You have a wrong idea what real men is, and also what a macho man is and how much macho egosentric people like him hurt the society! 

 

There is a reason todays society is better for most people, but do not mistake me for being a leftwing, neither a rightwing, because both is equal poison for the society. 

 

 

[CG1 Blue]

On 2/2/2023 at 7:43 AM, Jingthing said:

Tate is obviously a criminal. He has admitted to several serious crimes on video that you can access. This has nothing to do with woke or no woke. Nobody is suggesting that anyone  be locked up just for being a notorious A hole which of course Tate is.

I disagree that it has nothing to do with woke. I believe people like Tate are growing in popularity due to the bombardment of woke narrative pushed down our throats every day. 

Previously moderate right wingers are being pushed over the edge.

Same as with the left continually promoting race hate, like this latest incident in the US where black police officers killing a black man is being labeled as racist because the black officers have adopted white attitudes or something. Insanity. 

 

For the record, I know hardly anything about Tate other than a few headlines. I'm just explaining that pushing the woke agenda too far will have consequences. 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

I disagree that it has nothing to do with woke. I believe people like Tate are growing in popularity due to the bombardment of woke narrative pushed down our throats every day. 

Previously moderate right wingers are being pushed over the edge.

Same as with the left continually promoting race hate, like this latest incident in the US where black police officers killing a black man is being labeled as racist because the black officers have adopted white attitudes or something. Insanity. 

 

For the record, I know hardly anything about Tate other than a few headlines. I'm just explaining that pushing the woke agenda too far will have consequences. 

In other words, woke or anti woke has nothing to do with Tate being arrested in Romania.

It does have something to do with Tate's internet popularity among many right wing misogynist types.

DIFFERENT THINGS!

[Chomper Higgot]

53 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

I disagree that it has nothing to do with woke. I believe people like Tate are growing in popularity due to the bombardment of woke narrative pushed down our throats every day. 

Previously moderate right wingers are being pushed over the edge.

Same as with the left continually promoting race hate, like this latest incident in the US where black police officers killing a black man is being labeled as racist because the black officers have adopted white attitudes or something. Insanity. 

 

For the record, I know hardly anything about Tate other than a few headlines. I'm just explaining that pushing the woke agenda too far will have consequences. 

I see, so it’s this ‘Woke agenda’ is what’s behind Tate trafficking abusing and raping women?!

 

Violent abusers and rapers of women have existed throughout history, they are not the product of the inventions of the rightwing’s culture war.

 

Tate is simply a current example of violent abusive masculinity.

 

Get over your self inflicted grievance stroking, men are not the victim here, this is not about politics, it’s not about race, it’s not about invented culture wars, it’s about heinous crimes against women committed by Tate.

 

Decent people regardless of race, gender or political persuasion can see that.

 

 

 

 

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

I disagree that it has nothing to do with woke. I believe people like Tate are growing in popularity due to the bombardment of woke narrative pushed down our throats every day. 

Previously moderate right wingers are being pushed over the edge.

Same as with the left continually promoting race hate, like this latest incident in the US where black police officers killing a black man is being labeled as racist because the black officers have adopted white attitudes or something. Insanity. 

 

For the record, I know hardly anything about Tate other than a few headlines. I'm just explaining that pushing the woke agenda too far will have consequences. 

Thats truly a bad explanation, same as anyone believe a dictatorship is better than democracy, but equally both can serve most people, but both outer ends is toxic and dangerous. 

[Jingthing]

31 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I see, so it’s this ‘Woke agenda’ is what’s behind Tate trafficking abusing and raping women?!

 

Violent abusers and rapers of women have existed throughout history, they are not the product of the inventions of the rightwing’s culture war.

 

Tate is simply a current example of violent abusive masculinity.

 

Get over your self inflicted grievance stroking, men are not the victim here, this is not about politics, it’s not about race, it’s not about invented culture wars, it’s about heinous crimes against women committed by Tate.

 

Decent people regardless of race, gender or political persuasion can see that.

 

 

 

 

Indeed Tate could have continued spewing whatever toxic garbage online that he wanted to, and continued to scam people with overpriced "courses" a la scam Trump University, if he had not allegedly committed multiple very serious crimes in Romania. Of course he should get whatever fair process that Romania may offer to determine his guilt or innocence, but as so many of us are expats here, he's subject to the Romanian system, not the US or UK one. 

 

He's not being charged by Romania for being a grade A misogynist A hole which of course he is.  He's under investigation for extemely serious crimes that will be putting him away if convicted.

Edited February 3, 2023 by Jingthing

[CG1 Blue]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I see, so it’s this ‘Woke agenda’ is what’s behind Tate trafficking abusing and raping women?!

No, I'm saying this is why Tate has more followers than he ordinarily would do. 

[Startmeup]

On 2/2/2023 at 8:16 AM, JonnyF said:

Surely a trial first would be a good idea?

 

Or are we locking up people who hold the "wrong" views without due process now? I know that's secretly what many hardcore left wing extremists would like to see.

 

Just to add, I think Tate is a bit of an idiot (so no strawman arguments about me being a fan please) but everyone deserves fair treatment by the justice system.

Nope, all the brainwashed idiots have made their minds up and know everything about Tate from reading a few headlines in the newspapers and a few 60 second mashed up clips to show them what they are to believe. Bite down my little minions and swallow hard. These people I present to you is the true scourge of our society and the reason why the world is in such organised chaos. It started with Assange and now here we are. All falsely imprisoned. Add Tommy Robinson to that list too.

[Chomper Higgot]

30 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

No, I'm saying this is why Tate has more followers than he ordinarily would do. 

Let’s cut the nonsense and get to the truth of it.

 

Tate is a viscous woman hater, some men find that attractive, follow him on social media, defend him and excuse him and his followers on social media.

 

Nothing to do with anything other than their own head problems.

Edited February 3, 2023 by Chomper Higgot

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, Startmeup said:

 All falsely imprisoned. Add Tommy Robinson to that list too.

And to think you called other people "brainwashed idiots" and then you come out with this!  Poor little persecuted Tommy. Has a better ring than Christopher Yaxley-Lennon doesn't it?

Did you donate to poor little Tommy? That is all he cares about.

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6 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

I disagree that it has nothing to do with woke. I believe people like Tate are growing in popularity due to the bombardment of woke narrative pushed down our throats every day. 

Previously moderate right wingers are being pushed over the edge.

Same as with the left continually promoting race hate, like this latest incident in the US where black police officers killing a black man is being labeled as racist because the black officers have adopted white attitudes or something. Insanity. 

 

For the record, I know hardly anything about Tate other than a few headlines. I'm just explaining that pushing the woke agenda too far will have consequences. 

Yours is the argument of weaklings and bullies. Basically it boils down to "You made me do it".

[Scott]

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[CG1 Blue]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Yours is the argument of weaklings and bullies. Basically it boils down to "You made me do it".

Do you not agree that more Islamic terror attacks led to more far right activity? Same logic

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Do you not agree that more Islamic terror attacks led to more far right activity? Same logic

I’ll agree abusive people will look for an excuse to justify their actions.

 

But it’s precisely the same behavior ‘you/they made me do it’.

 

The reason Tate has abused women is rooted in his own psychology.

 

Anyone admiring/defending Tate and his behavior need look inside their own heads to find the reason.

 

[ozimoron]

1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

Do you not agree that more Islamic terror attacks led to more far right activity? Same logic

How do you get from raping and trafficking women to Islamic terror attacks?

[Hummin]

6 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Do you not agree that more Islamic terror attacks led to more far right activity? Same logic

More Islanic terror attack in war zones or peace zones? 

 

How is that even out on the percentage of right wing terror, shooting and mass shootings? 

 

Did the right wing escalate during war on terror? 

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6 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Do you not agree that more Islamic terror attacks led to more far right activity? Same logic

 

The indiscriminate bigotry against Muslims that characterizes so many right wingers is similar to the bigotry they harbor towards the gay community. And that in both cases they use these alleged threats, whether of violence or coercion, to justify their bigotry.

[Will B Good]

On 2/3/2023 at 5:50 AM, Mr Derek said:

Apparently. But it's not random at all. It's purpose is to send a message that machismo is outlawed in today's woke world. That is an active part of the agenda currently promoted by western governments. Romania is part of the EU, remember - they will be under political pressure to toe the line.

I'll be surprised if they actually convict them of anything in the end though. They'll let them go after having put them through this punishment that sends a message to society.

 

My point is that this is a very dangerous path to do down. Once all the real men, the macho men, the don't-give-a-damn-about-feelings men have been cancelled, suppressed, outlawed, eradicated from society by those who are insecure, we'll soon discover why we needed them. It's a mistake to interfere with the natural way of things. This post-human world is on a trajectory beyond nature, which is very worrying indeed for those with the foresight to understand the consequences. 

 

 

 

Best wind up merchant on this site......I hope this is a wind up......if not God help us all.

[BananaStrong]

I have a sad feeling if I went to Pattaya or Phuket and asked them to rank Tate from 1 to absolute worst human to 100 as absolute God with capital G, he would be 99.

 

I'm happy he's in prison, cars gone, all his self-snitching.... 

 

let him out, he can't hide from this.   civil suits coming, more criminal charges........

 

being famous usually means you have the potential to end up worse than before you were famous.

 

rich is great if nobody knows who you are.

 

in this case, the narcissistic clown needs the attention for whatever reason.

 

he spent years being rich, which is too bad for those who will never experience wealth.   

 

Is Romania the same as every other country?  NO!!!!  So, unless you are expert in Romanian law, I'm sure you have zero idea.   Pattaya in America, for example, wouldn't work!!!!!