Marvo 93 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 I’m just curious.... Is it legal for 7-eleven (or any company) to require or demand that their staff pay for shortfalls in till receipts, after takings reconciliation each day? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhaoNiaw 1892 Posted March 24 Popular Post Share Posted March 24 I don't know about the legalities but it's definitely common practice in businesses here. I know staff on bank counters and hotel reception who have to pay for any shortfalls. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tgw 4867 Posted March 24 Popular Post Share Posted March 24 just imagine what would happen if they didn't ... 3 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerjo 4554 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 It happens at Makro. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail 4794 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 I was common in the US in the '80s, not sure about now. Would a bank teller not be responsible for their till? Not much different. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kickstart 3491 Posted March 24 Popular Post Share Posted March 24 The wife's granddaughter worked at 7-11 for a while and she said they had to pay back any mistakes thy make. Is that why when my bottle of milk is X baht and 50 stang they ask for the 50 Stang, and the new ones nearly always count out your change 2 or even 3 times. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail 4794 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 1 minute ago, kickstart said: The wife's granddaughter worked at 7-11 for a while and she said they had to pay back any mistakes thy make. Is that why when my bottle of milk is X baht and 50 stang they ask for the 50 Stang, and the new ones nearly always count out your change 2 or even 3 times. As it should be. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail 4794 Posted March 24 Popular Post Share Posted March 24 It is way too easy to steal money from the till if they are not held accountable and counting them out and making them pay the short is the only way to do it. 5 2 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerDo2 2516 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 If it was your store would you even be asking? Of course they are responsible for their drawer and the money (or lack thereof) in it. 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chickenslegs 17963 Posted March 24 Popular Post Share Posted March 24 Do they get to keep any surplus? (that's a rhetorical question, obviously). 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gulfsailor 2666 Posted March 24 Popular Post Share Posted March 24 Only allowed under specific conditions, capped, and with the employees express prior consent. Get it wrong as employer and face stiff penalties; https://www.tilleke.com/insights/pay-or-not-pay-deduction-wages-under-labor-protection-act/ 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JensenZ 2558 Posted March 24 Popular Post Share Posted March 24 4 hours ago, kickstart said: The wife's granddaughter worked at 7-11 for a while and she said they had to pay back any mistakes thy make. Is that why when my bottle of milk is X baht and 50 stang they ask for the 50 Stang, and the new ones nearly always count out your change 2 or even 3 times. Some make money on the side by shortchanging people. I've lost a few hundred like this as I wasn't paying attention at a 7Eleven I didn't usually visit. It's a perfect scam. If the customer notices, an apology will suffice. 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard 26270 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) I'm just curious ... why are you asking this question? Edited March 24 by scorecard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra 59101 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) When it comes to Thai workers, the only way to make them to be accountable for their actions is through their pockets, believe me i was there. Edited March 24 by ezzra 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EdrigoSalvadore 213 Posted March 24 Popular Post Share Posted March 24 The problem is, if there's several in the staff and one of them steals money. Why should the innocent have to pay it back? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 3540 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 That's the only way to try to keep the workers Honest. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2baht 8591 Posted March 24 Popular Post Share Posted March 24 They can't add 2 + 1 without a calculator! Testimony to their education system! 3 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifmu 403 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 In usa they do not have to pay back shorts .... but they can be fired for it ..... they are responsible for the cash but not repaying it a lot of americans pay it back if they want , or if they dont know the law ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalmagic 3767 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, digger70 said: That's the only way to try to keep the workers Honest. It's actually only one of many ways; and not very effective. A till that is never short may make the owners think everything is good and nobody is taking money from the till. However, there are numerous ways to defraud the system and make a tidy profit. There are digital analysis systems that spot fraudulent behaviour and create alerts for loss prevention teams or management to act on; every retail operation is vulnerable. I have seen videos of staff at one outlet in UK taking approximately 40k Stg out of the till, which always balanced. This was their flagship store with all management and returns setting exemplary standards for others. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalmagic 3767 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, 2baht said: They can't add 2 + 1 without a calculator! Testimony to their education system! Maybe so, but a calculator next to the till is a sign they may be ripping the owner off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryford 9407 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 A friend of my wife works at a restaurant in Pattaya. It seems in some places they are responsible for any shortfalls, whatever the cause. Recently some scummy guy went there, ate a meal, with wine, bought cocktails then did a runner without paying. The restaurant docked the girls wages over 2000 baht to compensate for the loss !! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag 12196 Posted March 25 Popular Post Share Posted March 25 Since the staff seem to move randomly from till to till, I'm not sure how they can pin any shortfall down to any one person. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou 10719 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 11 hours ago, Yellowtail said: Would a bank teller not be responsible for their till? Not much different. In the UK they, obviously, are responsible for the cash under their control but they were not made to make good shortfalls out of their own pockets (nor were they allowed to pocket "overs"), banks have provisions for those situations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa 15170 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 18 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: Since the staff seem to move randomly from till to till, I'm not sure how they can pin any shortfall down to any one person. If you take a close look at your receipt from a 7/11 you will notice the cashiers name or employee number on it. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 30980 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 This has to be up there as one of the strangest questions asked on this forum. imo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 30980 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 7 minutes ago, AhFarangJa said: If you take a close look at your receipt from a 7/11 you will notice the cashiers name or employee number on it. yes ..... just goes to show how much Thais trust each other ..... like zero trust 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejets 562 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 It's common thing in Thailand. Just shut your gob and move on. 1 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Venom 1391 Posted March 25 Popular Post Share Posted March 25 TIT. Sino-Thai monopolists rule while the poor get the shaft. 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 24062 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 This is one of the better ideas, make them pay, same for waitresses, keeps them on their toes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik 23006 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Many years ago my TGF was deputy chief cashier in a 5* Bangkok Hotel and notice some irregularities relating to cash and credit card payments....as there was only her and the Chief cashier it was obvious to her who was at fault....she mentioned one day that she had noticed these irregularities but was at a loss to understand them (actually she knew full well what was going on but acted dumb) it stopped for a time but then started again....at this point my TGF sent an email to the groups General Manager stating what was happening.....the Chief Cashier confessed under interrogation and was dismissed.....I asked my GF how she felt about getting a colleague and friend in trouble and she replied that she had pointed out what was going on earlier but she had continued with the fraud which eventually would have been discovered anyhow and she did not want to be blamed for it..... When handling money there is great temptation....... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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