British Cycling to ban transgender women from competing in elite female category

[onthedarkside]

 

British Cycling is to ban transgender women from the female category of its elite competitions following a nine-month review and consultation.

 

Under a new participation policy that the governing body said was "predicated on fairness", such athletes will compete in an 'open category' with men.

 

The female category will be "for those whose sex was assigned female at birth".

 

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https://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/65718748

 

[Kwasaki]

Quite right, they should have their own bicycle category.

[AndyFoxy]

Good

[Chomper Higgot]

As I’ve said all along, it is for the sports governing boddies to address this.

A handful of elite transgender cyclists will now need to have their own category.

 

No big deal, as a life long competitive cyclist I’ve always ridden in categorized events.

 

I also have no doubt mixed category events will continue as they have since the 1930s.

British Cycling is responding correctly to a societal change, following consultation and review, not knee jerk reactions.

 

 

Edited May 26, 2023 by Chomper Higgot

[Smokey and the Bandit]

Absolutely correct, males ride in the males category and females in the females category?

A trans women is a biological male!

 

"Under a new participation policy that the governing body said was "predicated on fairness", such athletes will compete in an 'open category' with men.

 

The female category will be "for those whose sex was assigned female at birth".

 

Its not rocket science!

[mikeymike100]

5 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Absolutely correct, males ride in the males category and females in the females category?

A trans women is a biological male!

 

"Under a new participation policy that the governing body said was "predicated on fairness", such athletes will compete in an 'open category' with men.

 

The female category will be "for those whose sex was assigned female at birth".

 

Its not rocket science!

What is worrying is why is this even being questioned?

 

[Neeranam]

19 hours ago, onthedarkside said:

The female category will be "for those whose sex was assigned female at birth".

Quite right too.

[Neeranam]

Are there many transgender cyclists in the UK? 

[n00dle]

good. im unclear as to how there could have been any real debate.

[n00dle]

Just now, Neeranam said:

Are there many transgender cyclists in the UK? 

All it takes is one failed male cyclist to announce he is female,

[Chomper Higgot]

18 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Are there many transgender cyclists in the UK? 

Less than half a dozen, and only one currently competing elite transgender cyclist.

 

There is of course Pippa York, who was disgracefully hounded by the Daily Mail. 
 

Pippa no longer competes, but received a standing ovation from a packed crowd at the National Cycling Center when she attended as a spectator at the Olympic Games.

 

Pippa remains hugely respected and admired within the cycling community.

I recommend Matt Stevens - The Cafe Ride Episode 12 - Pippa York.

 

Well done British Cycling for responding after consultation and considered review.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

28 minutes ago, n00dle said:

All it takes is one failed male cyclist to announce he is female,

Nonsense.

 

But if it gives you hope of winning a medal who am I to shot down your dream.

[n00dle]

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nonsense.

 

But if it gives you hope of winning a medal who am I to shot down your dream.

Are you telling me the precendent isnt already there in plenty of other sports??

 

Edited May 27, 2023 by n00dle

[Chomper Higgot]

35 minutes ago, n00dle said:

Are you telling me the precendent isnt already there in plenty of other sports??

 

If you believe athletes go thorough gender transition to win medals, I doubt anything I have to say on the matter will change your mind.

 

 

Edited May 27, 2023 by Chomper Higgot

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

If you believe athletes go thorough gender transition to win medals, I doubt anything I have to say on the matter will change your mind.

 

 

Slightly off topic,

I used to do time trials cycling from CM Zoo to Wat Doi Suthep.

As a male I was positioned at a bit over 600th.

As a female I was in the top 10.

That's a massive difference.

[Chomper Higgot]

16 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Slightly off topic,

I used to do time trials cycling from CM Zoo to Wat Doi Suthep.

As a male I was positioned at a bit over 600th.

As a female I was in the top 10.

That's a massive difference.

Who knew.

 

But did you read the OP?

 

British Cycling have just banded Transgender (male to female) from competing in women’s events in the UK.

 

Not much relevance to Doi Suthep.

 

But good news to see the UK’s governing body making a considered ruling to address a societal change.

 

 

[Yellowtail]

It's nice that they've finally bowed to public pressure and are doing right by women. 

 

 

Edited May 27, 2023 by Yellowtail

[James105]

A 9 month review to ascertain whether or not it is fair for biological males to compete against females?   Even if it was a 9 second review that is still 8 seconds longer than is necessary for any sane or rational person to judge whether or not this would be fair.  

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It's nice that they've finally bowed to public pressure and are doing right by women. 

 

 

They weren’t bowing to public pressure, British Cycling has been investigating and reviewing this matter well before the right wing culture warriors picked it up.

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

They weren’t bowing to public pressure, British Cycling has been investigating and reviewing this matter well before the right wing culture warriors picked it up.

IF you include people like JK Rowling, Germaine Greer, and Martina Navratilova "right wing culture warriors", then you have a point. 

[onthedarkside]

An off topic Trump trolling meme removed

[youreavinalaff]

Will one "open category" be enough? I can see, further down the line, people complaining. Maybe women who have transitioned to men wanting their own category. Those transitioning not wanting to compete with those totally transitioned. Not only cycling but many sports.

[Chomper Higgot]

17 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Will one "open category" be enough? I can see, further down the line, people complaining. Maybe women who have transitioned to men wanting their own category. Those transitioning not wanting to compete with those totally transitioned. Not only cycling but many sports.

The majority of bicycle races in the UK are open category time trials.

 

Beryl Burton cis-female, was a frequent open category winner and held open category national records.

 

British Cycling has always been welcoming to all who wish to cycle.

 

It’s good to see British Cycling make considered rules to keep the sport in pace with changes insider society’s.

[PETERTHEEATER]

On 5/26/2023 at 11:15 AM, Kwasaki said:

Quite right, they should have their own bicycle category.

Would their bikes have a croossbar?

[youreavinalaff]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The majority of bicycle races in the UK are open category time trials.

 

Beryl Burton cis-female, was a frequent open category winner and held open category national records.

 

British Cycling has always been welcoming to all who wish to cycle.

 

It’s good to see British Cycling make considered rules to keep the sport in pace with changes insider society’s.

I think you've missed my point.

 

Firstly, I did say this will not only effect cycling. 

 

Secondly, your final paragraph mentions " keeping pace" with changes. That is my point. I can see the need for more changes as transgender groups splinter into more specific groups.

 

Similar in a way to Para sport. More and more categories being created as people complain of unfair advantages in their current catagory.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

I think you've missed my point.

 

Firstly, I did say this will not only effect cycling. 

 

Secondly, your final paragraph mentions " keeping pace" with changes. That is my point. I can see the need for more changes as transgender groups splinter into more specific groups.

 

Similar in a way to Para sport. More and more categories being created as people complain of unfair advantages in their current catagory.

I can’t see anything wrong with that.

 

I’m all for sport being open to everyone.

[youreavinalaff]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I can’t see anything wrong with that.

 

I’m all for sport being open to everyone.

Neither do I.

 

Just having a conversation on an open forum. 

 

The point is not about sport being "open" to everyone. It's about different people's perception of "fairness". The old saying " you can please some people some of the time.............." springs to mind.

[spidermike007]

Excellent decision. Just establish a worldwide ladyboy category. Don't let men who have decided they don't want to be men steal from women who have devoted their young lives to the sport. That is theft and dishonor. 

[Scott]

Troll post removed.

 

[Scott]

Inflammatory post removed.   Continue and face a suspension.