Popular Post snoop1130 Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 The spotlight has now turned on the Pheu Thai Party, which is likely to take over from the Move Forward party in forming the next government, after they lost their bid to nominate their leader Pita Limjaroenrat as prime minister today (Wednesday). Pheu Thai leader Cholnan Srikaew reconfirmed the unity of the eight political parties in the coalition pact, despite the latest setback suffered by Move Forward, and hinted at his party’s readiness to take the lead in forming the coalition. Chaithawat Tulathon, secretary general of Move Forward, admitted that Pita’s failure to be nominated as prime minister has opened the way for Pheu Thai to be at the core of the next government. “We need to talk with Move Forward and the other partners, to sound out their views on what steps are to be taken,” Cholnan told Thai PBS when asked about Pheu Thai’s political plan. Cholnan said that the formation of the coalition and the nomination of the prime minister should be agreed upon before next Thursday, when the Parliament meets again. Caption: Cholnan Srikaew Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/after-pita-pheu-thai-gets-to-run-the-show/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2023-07-19 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. 1 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stoner Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 pheu thai....we will succeed were pita failed. old boys club......hahahahahah cute. 3 1 1 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomacht8 Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 PT has kept to the agreement. Srettha should now run as a PM candidate from the existing coalition of eight parties. As long as the future government reflects the election results of the population, ok. The senators cannot afford to saw off Srettha like Pita before. Would be nice to see where the Senate stands in the third approach. For the sake of the Thai people or not. 6 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zzaa09 Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, stoner said: pheu thai....we will succeed were pita failed. old boys club......hahahahahah cute. You know the old saying......"you can put lipstick and dress up the cabal, but in the end it's the cabal" 7 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mfd101 Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: The senators cannot afford to saw off Srettha like Pita before. Hope you're right. But PTP's own past is not exactly pure as the driven snow ... In any case from now through to May next year is going to be very interesting to watch. In May the Senate's time is up, at least as currently constituted. It is - at least to me - entirely unclear what happens after that. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenStark Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: The senators cannot afford to saw off Srettha like Pita before. Explain why not. The 3rd ound is tomorrow, isn't it? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madmitch Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 I don't get why the senate were allowed a say in whether Pita could stand a second time. They are not elected Parliamentarians and this wasn't a vote for PM as such. But I obviously don't know the ins and outs of the clause in the constitution that gives them such powers. Anyway, there's a precedent set now: if Sreetha gets the coalition nomination and fails, he won't be able to stand again in the event of a new coalition. The worry about that is who would stand? And this is where the likelihood of the olld guard regaining power comes into play. Dreadful situation! 7 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomacht8 Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, BenStark said: Explain why not. The 3rd ound is tomorrow, isn't it? If the Senate would not aprove Shretta, then they would oppose the will for change of 2/3 of the population. First Pita then Shretta. That would mean that the will of 2/3 of the Thai population would be suppressed. Then FT and PT supporters would probably join forces on the streets. I don't believe that the Thais will silently allow themselves to be robbed of the election results. I hope it not comes to bloody protests, but I don't know any Thais who let their butter be stolen from their bread. 3 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BenStark Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, madmitch said: I don't get why the senate were allowed a say in whether Pita could stand a second time. They are not elected Parliamentarians and this wasn't a vote for PM as such. But I obviously don't know the ins and outs of the clause in the constitution that gives them such powers. Anyway, there's a precedent set now: if Sreetha gets the coalition nomination and fails, he won't be able to stand again in the event of a new coalition. The worry about that is who would stand? And this is where the likelihood of the olld guard regaining power comes into play. Dreadful situation! If that fails there will be no new coalition, Prayut will remain as caretaker until new elections, which will be delayed and delayed, until both MF and PT are dissolved by a court. 3 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: If the Senate would not aprove Shretta, then they would oppose the will for change of 2/3 of the population. You really think they give a damn about that? Read my comment above 7 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Slip Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 Surely this is just gamming the lips. They are going to disband MF anyway soon- the PT/MF alliance will be crushed at that point. SSDD. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mfd101 Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 So far The People appear relatively quiet. If they're not out in force by, say, next Sunday, then I guess we can say farewell to The People defending their democratic vote. 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomacht8 Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, BenStark said: If that fails there will be no new coalition, Prayut will remain as caretaker until new elections, which will be delayed and delayed, until both MF and PT are dissolved by a court. You really think they give a damn about that? Read my comment above A minority government cannot pass legislation in Parliament if the majority of Parliament is against it. Although the Senate could order its preferred candidate in, but it would not result in a functional government. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Post making unsubstantiated claims on Thaksin reported/removed along with replies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke1959 Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 It will be clear.. PHeu Thai goes for Pm but the senators will not accept a party that works together with MFP, with a result that if Settra in this coalition is nominated and he don't get enough votes, he can't have a second chance too and so Anutin and Prawith will be the new PM.. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lordgrinz Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 The Military Junta or Pheu Thai, what's the difference? Two completely corrupt groups vying for their share of the loot, all drooling over their turn at the trough. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, lordgrinz said: The Military Junta or Pheu Thai, what's the difference? Two completely corrupt groups vying for their share of the loot, all drooling over their turn at the trough. One group has always been pro-elections. 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 Can MFP dissolve the coaltion? I think this would be very interesting. It would make parliament unworkable or force PT into a coalition with the military which would be the end of PT. Just a thought. Of course it probably doesn't matter. One way or another the military will take control again with coup no. 14. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lordgrinz Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, candide said: One group has always been pro-elections. You mean pro-vote buying. 2 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, lordgrinz said: You mean pro-vote buying. It has been discussed many times. Other parties were also practising vote buying. Its effectiveness has also been questioned, in particular considering the high number of votes (ex Yingluck got around 40% more votes than Abhisit). I agree with you that both groups are crooked (to a certain extent). However, I prefer the one which always submitted to the vote of the people, and could be voted out. 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, mfd101 said: Hope you're right. But PTP's own past is not exactly pure as the driven snow ... In any case from now through to May next year is going to be very interesting to watch. In May the Senate's time is up, at least as currently constituted. It is - at least to me - entirely unclear what happens after that. OK so PT now has the chance to hold the PM chair. I hope and I pray that they will sooner rather than later take serious action to change the current appointed to an elected senate. Won't be easy but I suspect they will try. Lets' hope. Edited July 19, 2023 by scorecard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I believe we are in "the calm before the storm" period. Pita screwed up his chances through either stupidity and/or naivety but in the process, the people's hopes were raised. They will not take this failure lying down. A storm is in the making. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robert Tyrrell Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 Good morning, Well Thailand ???????? You have certainly screwed over THE VOICE !! OF THE THAI PEOPLE !! Shady Democracy is apparent !! SHAMEFUL !! 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kennw Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 9 hours ago, stoner said: pheu thai....we will succeed were pita failed. old boys club......hahahahahah cute. And watch the "get out of jail free card" come out soon. So obvious all along 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 8 hours ago, tomacht8 said: A minority government cannot pass legislation in Parliament if the majority of Parliament is against it. Although the Senate could order its preferred candidate in, but it would not result in a functional government. Which rather assumes that they will take any notice of Parliament! They have ignored them and their electoral mandate to select a government. Why should they be remotely bothered about taking any notice of them when it comes to governing? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 9 hours ago, mfd101 said: Hope you're right. But PTP's own past is not exactly pure as the driven snow ... In any case from now through to May next year is going to be very interesting to watch. In May the Senate's time is up, at least as currently constituted. It is - at least to me - entirely unclear what happens after that. True, I suspect that the regulations in place will mean the senators must be appointed, but by who? Would be nice to get clarity on this point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post drmal Posted July 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) No doubt, a big, bloody protest looms. The people's mandate has been robbed in broad daylight. What's the use of going to vote if the person selected by the majority can't be elected? All the so called 715 parliamentary committee members on the junta payroll should be kicked out - Prayuth's safeguard against democracy. This so called committee must be abolished. Don't let Thailand become another Myanmar. Edited July 19, 2023 by drmal 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemoH Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Hahaha ..working with the devil you know rather than … an unknown … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 10 hours ago, stoner said: pheu thai....we will succeed were pita failed. old boys club......hahahahahah cute. Better than the two P's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harada Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 BIG brown envelopes are on the move. ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradiston Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Anybody seen Prayut recently? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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