Trump charged with four counts over 2020 election

[Scott]

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[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Biden accomplishments?

 

Let's see.

 

-cut trump's last year budget by $350 billion in FY2021

-cut trump's last year budget by $1.3 trillion in FY2022

-Got a bipartisan Infrastructure Bill passed (vs trump's endless "Infrastructure Week", aka Waiting for Godot)

-Re-energized NATO and organized a coalition of democracies to oppose putin's invasion of Ukraine

-presided over a tumble from the 6.8% UE trump left behind to a 55 year low of 3.4%

-presided over the largest creation of new jobs ever

-has the US economy growing again after being handed the trump Recession

-With the Fed has tamed the inflation caused by trump's $7,800,000,000,000 ($24,000 for every US citizen) profligacy

-took out al Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahiri

-Got a Bill passed that cuts prices of prescription drugs

-Has NOT tried to overthrow American democracy

Just about total baloney. Not even a nice try.

[xylophone]

3 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Biden accomplishments?

 

Let's see.

 

-cut trump's last year budget by $350 billion in FY2021

-cut trump's last year budget by $1.3 trillion in FY2022

-Got a bipartisan Infrastructure Bill passed (vs trump's endless "Infrastructure Week", aka Waiting for Godot)

-Re-energized NATO and organized a coalition of democracies to oppose putin's invasion of Ukraine

-presided over a tumble from the 6.8% UE trump left behind to a 55 year low of 3.4%

-presided over the largest creation of new jobs ever

-has the US economy growing again after being handed the trump Recession

-With the Fed has tamed the inflation caused by trump's $7,800,000,000,000 ($24,000 for every US citizen) profligacy

-took out al Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahiri

-Got a Bill passed that cuts prices of prescription drugs

-Has NOT tried to overthrow American democracy

Love this post, but the trumpies don't as they do not like FACTS!! 

[johnnybangkok]

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Your comment sums up the left. 

 

People the US want the wall built and elect Trump largely for that reason. 

 

Trump goes about trying to get the wall built, and the left does everything possible to stop construction, yet he still got over 400 miles of it built. 

 

Then the left attacks Trump for not building the wall. 

 

And here we have the REAL reason Trump is so popular. 

[ICU Kid]

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The US has the lowest inflation rate of the major economies.

For Biden, The Key Is To Create As Many Government Cash Injections As Possible Until 2025

You want to know why Democrats are so angry that the Supreme Court blocked Biden’s plan to make taxpayers cover student loan debts?

It’s not because they care about naive college kids who paid too much money for useless degrees – It’s because student debt relief would immediately add trillions more in spending in the short term to the US economy.

 

Biden’s constant attempts to introduce infrastructure programs are another way the government can create the illusion of recovery by using debt spending as a means to hide the signs of fiscal decline. Without Fed stimulus it’s the only option Biden has, and as rates rise it becomes costly.

 

The bottom line is:  The US economy is on a short timetable as long as the Fed continues to raise interest rates into weakness as a means to suppress inflation.

 

seen in spring, higher rates are already breaking the back of mid-tier banks and the Fed’s backstop funds are only enough to stall the debt crisis for a time.

 

Once the Fed Funds Rate is raised to 6% or more, we'll see ANOTHER banking crisis similar to the 2008 crash, but this time if the Fed steps in with a bailout hyperinflation will be the immediate result.

 

Bidenomics is a joke in every respect. Anything that could be considered an economic improvement is due to the Federal Reserve playing the odds with interest rates.

 

The 40% increase in the money supply (mirrored in inflation tems) helps in hide the fiscal as well but luckily,  most Americans aren’t buying the Bidenomics fairytale – They see the ongoing price rises for rent, fuel and food and the other dangers around them every day.

[Danderman123]

5 minutes ago, ICU Kid said:

For Biden, The Key Is To Create As Many Government Cash Injections As Possible Until 2025

You want to know why Democrats are so angry that the Supreme Court blocked Biden’s plan to make taxpayers cover student loan debts?

It’s not because they care about naive college kids who paid too much money for useless degrees – It’s because student debt relief would immediately add trillions more in spending in the short term to the US economy.

 

Biden’s constant attempts to introduce infrastructure programs are another way the government can create the illusion of recovery by using debt spending as a means to hide the signs of fiscal decline. Without Fed stimulus it’s the only option Biden has, and as rates rise it becomes costly.

 

The bottom line is:  The US economy is on a short timetable as long as the Fed continues to raise interest rates into weakness as a means to suppress inflation.

 

seen in spring, higher rates are already breaking the back of mid-tier banks and the Fed’s backstop funds are only enough to stall the debt crisis for a time.

 

Once the Fed Funds Rate is raised to 6% or more, we'll see ANOTHER banking crisis similar to the 2008 crash, but this time if the Fed steps in with a bailout hyperinflation will be the immediate result.

 

Bidenomics is a joke in every respect. Anything that could be considered an economic improvement is due to the Federal Reserve playing the odds with interest rates.

 

The 40% increase in the money supply (mirrored in inflation tems) helps in hide the fiscal as well but luckily,  most Americans aren’t buying the Bidenomics fairytale – They see the ongoing price rises for rent, fuel and food and the other dangers around them every day.

So... why aren't you worried about the Trump tax cuts that ballooned the deficit by trillions?

[xylophone]

2 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

And here we have the REAL reason Trump is so popular. 

We know he is so popular because he appeals to the folk who are not that bright and this sums it up perfectly......telling the rubes that he is fighting on their behalf, and they believe it:-

 

"In speeches, social media posts and ads, Trump has repeatedly declared the prosecutions a political witch hunt, and he has cast himself as a martyr who is taking hits from Democrats and the government on their behalf.

 

“They want to take away my freedom because I will never let them take away your freedom,” Trump told the crowd at a campaign event in New Hampshire on Tuesday. “They want to silence me because I will never let them silence you.”

 

Lorraine Rudd, who attended Trump’s appearance in New Hampshire, said that after his third indictment last week, in a point-by-point 45-page account of his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, she felt that she, too, could be wrongly prosecuted.

 

“If they can do it to him and take him down, they can come for me,” Rudd, a 64-year old Massachusetts resident, said.

 

She said she firmly agreed with Trump’s false claim that he won the 2020 election. “What, am I next?” she said.

 

A bunch of sad people who still believe the rubbish about the 2020 election being stolen.....how dumb can they get? Oh dear, oh dear.

[Tug]

6 minutes ago, ICU Kid said:

Try these facts too

 

Biden

• Opened the borders to illegal immigrants

• Discharged thousands of troops for refusing the Covid vaccine

• Opposed efforts to stop biological males from competing in women’s sports

• Lied about border patrol agents whipping migrants

• Claimed that January 6th rioters were a bigger threat to democracy than Confederates in the Civil War

• Described terrorism from white supremacy as the most lethal threat to the US

• Oversaw the disastrous withdrawal of American troops for Afghanistan

• Mis-handled the response to Covid mandating vaccines and dividing the nation on the basis of vaccination status

• Supported lockdowns and other pandemic polices which damaged the supply chain and the world economy

• Supported violent protesters instead of the police during the BLM riots

• Lied about Hunter’s laptop saying it was Russain disinformation

• Stated that election reform is the new Jim Crow

• Suppressed first amendment rights by influencing policies of social media outlets

• Supported the war in Ukraine and vilified Russia as our enemy

• Blocked American energy production

• Illegally attempted to forgive student loans

• Printed massive amounts of money causing massive inflation

Cue confused, sad & laughing emojis but no actual attempts to argue these IRREFUTABLE FACTS

 

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Ahhhhh okaaaa……….. if you say so 

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56 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Heh, that's right, Biden did get Trump charged, that's something! 

 

"AG Merrick Garland 'feels pressure from White House to go after Trump for January 6': Biden complained to inner circle that ex-president is a 'threat to democracy' who should be 'prosecuted'" 

 

Biden wants AG Garland to 'take decisive action' on Jan. 6, said Trump should be prosecuted: Report | Daily Mail Online

Merrick Garland Vows to Pursue Jan. 6 Inquiry ‘at Any Level’ - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Did you actually read the Daily Mail article?

While he subhead claims "AG Merrick Garland 'feels pressure from White House to go after Trump for Jan "6"

nothing in the Daily Mail article, or the New York Times article it draws from supports that claim.

 

"Biden had 'said privately that he wanted Mr. Garland to act less like a ponderous judge and more like a prosecutor who is willing to take decisive action over the events of Jan. 6,' the report stated.

However it notes that he never expressed that specific sentiment to Garland himself, and has also frequently praised the top Cabinet official for his impartiality. "

 

 

So, nothing in that article about the White House or Biden himself putting pressure on Garland. Nothing. It's the kind of falsehood, one would expect from the Daily Mail..

 

And, in fact, the private frustration of Biden and the open frustration of the Democrats in Congress with Garland's caution and punctiliousness speak well of Garland's management of the Justice Dept. investigation.

 

[Danderman123]

10 minutes ago, ICU Kid said:

Try these facts too

 

Biden

• Opened the borders to illegal immigrants

• Discharged thousands of troops for refusing the Covid vaccine

• Opposed efforts to stop biological males from competing in women’s sports

• Lied about border patrol agents whipping migrants

• Claimed that January 6th rioters were a bigger threat to democracy than Confederates in the Civil War

• Described terrorism from white supremacy as the most lethal threat to the US

• Oversaw the disastrous withdrawal of American troops for Afghanistan

• Mis-handled the response to Covid mandating vaccines and dividing the nation on the basis of vaccination status

• Supported lockdowns and other pandemic polices which damaged the supply chain and the world economy

• Supported violent protesters instead of the police during the BLM riots

• Lied about Hunter’s laptop saying it was Russain disinformation

• Stated that election reform is the new Jim Crow

• Suppressed first amendment rights by influencing policies of social media outlets

• Supported the war in Ukraine and vilified Russia as our enemy

• Blocked American energy production

• Illegally attempted to forgive student loans

• Printed massive amounts of money causing massive inflation

Cue confused, sad & laughing emojis but no actual attempts to argue these IRREFUTABLE FACTS

 

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These "facts" are refutable.

 

In fact, most of these are just lies that your internet friends sent you, and you were gullible enough to copy and paste them.

Edited August 10, 2023 by Danderman123

[Danderman123]

34 minutes ago, ICU Kid said:

Trump revealed the Deep State for all to see, and kept the US out of War.

Biden...has done nothing whatsoever positive.  Not a single thing.

 

Maybe you think Trump was incompetent in hiring people. 

Or maybe he was deep state all along. 

They're both valid arguments.

 

Let me give you another one, probably closer to reality: 

THERE ARE NO GOOD PEOPLE TO HIRE.

 

Don't like that answer?  Fair enough. 

Tell me who he should have hired. 

Name them.    

 

 

Tell me about our soldiers fighting in Syria during the Trump administration.....

 

or the soldiers killed in Niger.

Edited August 10, 2023 by Danderman123

[Danderman123]

41 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Just about total baloney. Not even a nice try.

Tell us which accomplishments on the list are false.

 

Otherwise, it's just cognitive dissonance on your part.

[ICU Kid]

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

These "facts" are refutable.

 

In fact, most of these are just lies that your internet friends sent you, and you were gullible enough to copy and paste them.

The covid event was a catalyst that revealed all the weaknesses of the US system that many of us have been warning about for years.

 

And now it seems as if the establishment is trying to drag things along for just a little while longer.

 

The reason why is up for speculation, but the fact remains that a broken structure cannot be propped up with stop gaps. I’m doubtful that Biden will be able to ride the wave created by covid stimulus until the end of 2024. Something has to give.

 

Prepare for President Trump AGAIN

[ICU Kid]

9 minutes ago, Tug said:

Ahhhhh okaaaa……….. if you say so 

I don’t think that Joe Biden just supported the war in Ukraine and vilified Russia as an enemy - Joe Biden did a lot more to poke the bear and instigate and fire up the war.

 

 

 

Also, when Trump left and Biden came in, there was peace. Look at it now.

[Danderman123]

7 minutes ago, ICU Kid said:

I don’t think that Joe Biden just supported the war in Ukraine and vilified Russia as an enemy - Joe Biden did a lot more to poke the bear and instigate and fire up the war.

 

 

 

Also, when Trump left and Biden came in, there was peace. Look at it now.

It seems that you have zero understanding of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. 

[Danderman123]

4 minutes ago, ICU Kid said:

Maybe just split the country in half now.

It's gonna happen anyway - Trumptards to the South / Lib tards to the north.

 

Pick a side

 

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We already had a civil war. Your side lost.

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Just about total baloney. Not even a nice try.

Typical trumper.

 

FACTS=Baloney

 

Conspiracy Drivel = Gospel

 

You cannot refute facts. That seems to upset you.

[CharlieH]

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[Walker88]

A new whistleblower has come forward and testified to Congress that he was told by his FBI superiors in NY not to pursue intel linking trump and his campaign and associates to russia and to russian clandestine assets in Ukraine.

 

The supervisor in question, named Charles McGonigal, is now under indictment.

[newnative]

5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

We can't rely on your "insights" if you don't know anything about US politics. So, let me try again:

 

"you can do us a favor by telling us what the House Republicans have done to reduce inflation and illegal immigration."

 

You can answer with information, you can say you don't know, or you can troll. Up to you.

    You'll never get an answer from these folks.  Instead, you'll get deflection, you'll get pointless questions asked over and over, and you'll get absolutely useless tripe trotted out like 'drain the swamp'.   The only thing 'drained' under Trump was the US Treasury, with his massive deficits coupled with massive tax cuts for the rich.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Tell us which accomplishments on the list are false.

 

Otherwise, it's just cognitive dissonance on your part.

No, the doc gave me an all clear.

Edited August 10, 2023 by nauseus

[nauseus]

47 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

The downgrade was a result of the $7,800,000,000,000 in new debt accumulated under the twice impeached, thrice indicted, convicted sex offender, convicted charity fraudster, 6-time bankrupt trump.

 

For those keeping score, and who understand what actually causes inflation, that's $24,000 in new debt for every man, women, and child in the US. It represented 41% of total US Debt accumulated since 1787.

 

trump also left economic, not just financial carnage in his wake. He left 6.8% unemployment (after inheriting 4.8% UE from Obama) as well as a Recession (after inheriting a growing economy from Obama..

 

Fortunately, Biden has helped turn things around, with UE down to a 55 year low of 3.4% and the economy is growing. The Fed even has trump's inflation under control.

 

trump produced the lowest average GDP change of any POTUS since Herbert Hoover in the 1930s. trump was a total disaster on every level.  Then, despite his abject failure, he spent his last few months trying to overthrow US democracy.

Rinse, repeat, but still soiled.

[Rhys]

Seems  the Americans have to wait for Trump to pull his what the heck and walk away... I would not be surprised he wins the election...

Justice system No teino huevos.

Edited August 10, 2023 by Rhys

[candide]

Interesting article

 

Indictment shows White House lawyers struggling for control as Trump fought to overturn election

https://news.yahoo.com/indictment-shows-white-house-lawyers-040522726.html

[heybruce]

7 hours ago, ICU Kid said:

Globalists hate him because he wants to put America 1st.

Globalism aims for one world government and Donny ain't playing ball with his America First approach : )

 

 

If Trump is against globalization why is he so eager to put his name on properties around the world?

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Heh, that's right, Biden did get Trump charged, that's something! 

 

"AG Merrick Garland 'feels pressure from White House to go after Trump for January 6': Biden complained to inner circle that ex-president is a 'threat to democracy' who should be 'prosecuted'" 

 

Biden wants AG Garland to 'take decisive action' on Jan. 6, said Trump should be prosecuted: Report | Daily Mail Online

Merrick Garland Vows to Pursue Jan. 6 Inquiry ‘at Any Level’ - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Right, I'm sure there was no pressure to go after any of the January 6 instigators before Biden took office.  ????

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, nauseus said:

Just about total baloney. Not even a nice try.

Can't refute anything in the post, right?

[heybruce]

14 minutes ago, ICU Kid said:

Biden has been in power since 2020.

In case you haven't noticed YOur country has continued to go downhill fast

since 2020

I get to use the same source twice.  The country going downhill is growing faster than any other rich country, and much faster than your country.  https://www.statista.com/statistics/1392678/g7-gdp-growth-since-covid-19-pandemic/

[heybruce]

2 minutes ago, ICU Kid said:

At the fall of the Soviet Union the US/UN assured the Russians that NATO wouldn't expand onto their borders.  They didn't keep their promise so Putin took action

 

If you poke the bear YOU (American pensioners) are gonna pay (as you have been).

 

On the plus side, since the invasion all the covid bedwetters forgot all about the so called pandemic.  So it's not all bad - you could accurately say

"Putin cured the Covid hypnosis" that you were under ; )

Now I see; you get your news from Russia Today.  That's why you can't give sources.

 

I hate to rain on your delusion, but Russia Today lied to you.  The US never gave Russia that assurance.  Also, there would have been no need for expansion if Putin/Russia had respected the borders of its neighbors.

[Lacessit]

Revisiting this thread after 43 pages. The Trump acolytes are still worshipping. Jack Smith keeps piling on more charges. Trump responds with violent rhetoric.

I am still waiting for a judge to toss Trump in the slammer for contempt of court.