Corruption watchdog to appeal order to publish reports on Prawit’s wristwatch scandal

[soalbundy]

2 hours ago, Andycoops said:

No doubt anyththing published from the grossly incompetent and corrupt NACC would expose just how bad they are at their jobs by protecting the guilty.

How can they even possibly over rule a Supreme court decision...

The elite can ignore court decisions unless the verdict is in their favour. Court decisions can be fought by their lawyers until everyone has died of old age. In this case I dare say there has been a brown envelope of understanding which over rules any legal argument.

[crazykopite]

Am I surprised absolutely not like everything it’s brushed under the carpet hoping it will be forgotten 

[BangkokReady]

3 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

It's unbelievable how stupid they think the population is.

It's not about the population being stupid, it's about them being Thai.

 

This thing happens all the time to allow people to save face or get away with corruption. Generally people know not to say anything publicly about it and just go along with the story. After all, they will probably want people to ignore their corruption at some point, so it's kind of reciprocal.

 

It gets a little awkward when people suddenly demand to know what actually happened. Generally this only occurs when the corruption is seen as being too high so people complain, or it's too public so someone needs to do something about it so they don't lose face.

[wealthychef]

Yay!  Wristwatches are back!  This story is eternal!  

[sambum]

16 hours ago, nikmar said:

how many witnesses were there - family of his "dead" friend

even so - easily remedied - witness "a" , witness "b" etc.

 

Absolute bow lox

Basically, it sounds like they want it swept under the carpet.

 

Of all the cases of politicians (supposedly) breaking the law by not declaring their assets, there are 2 that immediately spring to mind.

One, where a politician does not declare a number of very expensive watches, claiming first of all that they are not his, merely "borrowed" from a friend (bow lox!), and secondly he can not return them to the friend as he is now dead (more  bowlox) and thirdly, he had forgotten about them anyway (yet more bow lox!) Result - no action taken, and the findings and facts of the investigation kept under wraps.

 

Two, where a politician  does not declare his shares in a now virtually defunct media company therefore no financial gain. Result - barred from being able to stand as a Member of Parliament with the result and facts of the investigation made common knowledge.

 

No prizes for guessing which 2 parties these 2 politicians represent! 

[Scouse123]

 

 

At least he has one nice face. His watch face.

[Scouse123]

13 minutes ago, sambum said:

Basically, it sounds like they want it swept under the carpet.

 

 

 

They have!

[toofarnorth]

11 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Nothing is allowed to be revealed.. the story of the dead friend must stay in place as Mr Prawith was finished with his job already a long time ago.  Why keep this man in place .. no use he is sleeper

Sleeping on his watch then.

[Denim]

Shoulden't be a problem.  

 

Since the facts of the case are not to be revealed then proof of innocence or guilt has not been established.

 

Therefore , until the facts are disclosed Prawit should be banned from political office until such time as he is positevely proven innocent. Until then , it must be presumed that he might be guilty and not allowed to take any political position. 

 

 

[Purdey]

Too obvious that there is corruption going on. 

[Joseph98765]

Is this his new way to showing that he got a new watch??

[redwood1]

1 hour ago, Denim said:

Shoulden't be a problem.  

 

Since the facts of the case are not to be revealed then proof of innocence or guilt has not been established.

 

Therefore , until the facts are disclosed Prawit should be banned from political office until such time as he is positevely proven innocent. Until then , it must be presumed that he might be guilty and not allowed to take any political position. 

 

 

Sir....Laws are only for the little people...

[DJ54]

Another case of throwing the dog a bone…. to further disrupt the political arena or is the circus in town…

[PETERTHEEATER]

I do hope this will not affect the publishing of assets of the outgoing PM as required by the Constitution. ????

[paul1804]

For you to think for 1 second why you supposedly feel the details cannot be released is a reflection of your intelligence and the level of your integrity. Even the uneducated in Thailand know exactly why you made this statement!!!

[newnative]

Unbelievable.  Every time I think this will be the last time I type 'you can't make this up', along comes another story far more ridiculous and absurd than any fictional story.

[Spock]

9 hours ago, Edwin Cameron said:

Shades of 'Joey Biden and Hunter' here. Thailand,your much better than this,come clean with all the evidence against him,do something about it NOW or it will keep on festering.

You're not a Trump supporter by any chance!????

[Spock]

Vomit-worthy stuff. Thai politics is a joke best ignored by anyone who wants to live in this country. The rich and famous escape punishment and scrutiny every time, aided by the very bodies and systems that should be investigating and punishing them. The Red Bull killer is still free to wander the world, as is Prawit to own $22m in watches and become the next PM. Meanwhile, the only guy who presents as a leader of substance is excluded over B42,000 of useless shares. This country has a long way to go before it has any chance to be a true and fair democracy. In fact, I think achieving this target is impossible.

[Sigmund]

It definately was not a Malay rainbow LGBTQ Swatch...

[Dogmatix]

On 8/10/2023 at 4:07 PM, snoop1130 said:

 

NACC secretary-general Niwatchai Kasemmongkol said that they cannot reveal publish all the investigative reports about the case to protect the safety of the witnesses otherwise, in the future, witnesses would not dare to come forward to the NACC to testify.

 

No problem. Just redact the reports to show Witness A and Witness B.

[Dogmatix]

1 hour ago, Spock said:

Vomit-worthy stuff. Thai politics is a joke best ignored by anyone who wants to live in this country. The rich and famous escape punishment and scrutiny every time, aided by the very bodies and systems that should be investigating and punishing them. The Red Bull killer is still free to wander the world, as is Prawit to own $22m in watches and become the next PM. Meanwhile, the only guy who presents as a leader of substance is excluded over B42,000 of useless shares. This country has a long way to go before it has any chance to be a true and fair democracy. In fact, I think achieving this target is impossible.

It wasn't B42,000 worth of shares.  It was 42,000 shares that are worthless because the company is delisted and has no operations. It is a subsidiary of AIS that they have to keep going because it is in an interminable lawsuit with the government for terminating its TV broadcasting licence abruptly due to its association with Thaksin. That was also the reason for the clause in the constitution prohibiting ownership of media shares - i.e. Thaksin acquired the TV station that was intended to be an independent station and used it to gain an unfair advantage in the 2005 election.  Thaksin is at the root of most problems in Thai politics,

[Artisi]

10 hours ago, Gandtee said:

Perhaps the NACC should be investigated for corruption.  

no need , they are squeaky clean - just ask them, I'm sure they would be more than willing to release the report they did on themselves.

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, Dogmatix said:

It wasn't B42,000 worth of shares.  It was 42,000 shares that are worthless because the company is delisted and has no operations. It is a subsidiary of AIS that they have to keep going because it is in an interminable lawsuit with the government for terminating its TV broadcasting licence abruptly due to its association with Thaksin. That was also the reason for the clause in the constitution prohibiting ownership of media shares - i.e. Thaksin acquired the TV station that was intended to be an independent station and used it to gain an unfair advantage in the 2005 election.  Thaksin is at the root of most problems in Thai politics,

He is the problem.

[observer90210]

What about the Never Ending Story of the Redbull heir saga ?

[Zack61]

The truth? You can’t handle the truth. 

[kiwikeith]

On 8/10/2023 at 9:25 PM, Thingamabob said:

Cannot allow any scandal to be revealed about Thailand's next PM.....

Time will tell. 

[BangkokReady]

22 hours ago, sambum said:

Of all the cases of politicians (supposedly) breaking the law by not declaring their assets, there are 2 that immediately spring to mind.

Pita wasn't a case of not declaring assets.

[sambum]

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

Pita wasn't a case of not declaring assets.

Splitting hairs a bit? Not declaring worthless shares then?

[BangkokReady]

7 minutes ago, sambum said:

Splitting hairs a bit?

Hardly.  Just being accurate.

 

One is the case of a politician not declaring their assets, the other is of a politician holding shares that he is not allowed to, having declared them.  Completely different.

Edited August 12, 2023 by BangkokReady

[sambum]

16 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

hardly.  Just being accurate.

 

One is the case of a politician not declaring their assets, the other is of a politician holding shares that he is not allowed to, having declared them.  Completely different.

Did he declare the shares? I was under the impression that he didn't - was that not the reason for him being barred from being an MP? But I did hear that he signed them over to his father, so didn't feel the need to declare them. All a bit academic really - the point I was making was that one politician had undeclared assets of millions of baht, which were not declared (belonging to a friend) and the other had virtually worthless shares (which apparently belonged to/were transferred to his father.) Not too different - except the value of course?

Edited August 12, 2023 by sambum