Neighbor death

[Lolothai]

Hi everyone,

 

Few days ago my neighbor apparently hanged himself. He was 39 year old and was living with his girlfriend, it seems that he lost his job and broke up with his girlfriend. He dumped her stuff in the garbage and was supposed to fly back to his country the next day. His girlfriend came to check the house for some reason and found him dead. The day they tam boon she asked everyone if she could get his insurance life as he sent her a message saying he made it for her.

I find it a bit suspicious. He was young and as per my wife handsome, not much reason to end his life but don't know the person and the whole story.

I don't find it in the news so it's possible that it happens more often than we think.

My conclusion is that quite often you better make sure to don't have more value dead than alive.

I suppose that in some cases marriage, buying land and house without having more to give is strongly not advised. Life insurance is again on another level as you clearly get value in death, a good way to motivate the greedy ones.

In both case it's tragic and if he indeed took his own life I wish I could have met him, discuss and convince him that there is still a lot of hope.

[Celsius]

17 minutes ago, Lolothai said:

His girlfriend came to check the house for some reason

 

She came to check if he is dead

[JimTripper]

People do this when someone passes even without the insurance. First thing on their minds is rushing in to collect valuables at the home and checking bank accounts.

 

It’s pretty sad. Nobody trusts others to distribute things fairly.

[Gottfrid]

30 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

People do this when someone passes even without the insurance. First thing on their minds is rushing in to collect valuables at the home and checking bank accounts.

 

It’s pretty sad. Nobody trusts others to distribute things fairly.

Nobody? Really? That´s just pure fiction. Sure there are many greedy people in Thailand, as that becomes a higher percentage when the crack between rich and poor is much wider than in many other countries. Especially the countries westerners are used to live in.

However, we are probably talking about maybe 20-25 % (estimated), that are the ones taking advantage of every situation. The rest are just plain decent people that live their life right and fair. That´s what you say everyone about, when using nobody that way.

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, Lolothai said:

Hi everyone,

 

Few days ago my neighbor apparently hanged himself. He was 39 year old and was living with his girlfriend, it seems that he lost his job and broke up with his girlfriend. He dumped her stuff in the garbage and was supposed to fly back to his country the next day. His girlfriend came to check the house for some reason and found him dead. The day they tam boon she asked everyone if she could get his insurance life as he sent her a message saying he made it for her.

I find it a bit suspicious. He was young and as per my wife handsome, not much reason to end his life but don't know the person and the whole story.

I don't find it in the news so it's possible that it happens more often than we think.

My conclusion is that quite often you better make sure to don't have more value dead than alive.

I suppose that in some cases marriage, buying land and house without having more to give is strongly not advised. Life insurance is again on another level as you clearly get value in death, a good way to motivate the greedy ones.

In both case it's tragic and if he indeed took his own life I wish I could have met him, discuss and convince him that there is still a lot of hope.

She came back because he had her stuff.

If he has a life insurance with her name on it and he leaves the country, she needs the certificate.

All pretty normal to me.

The "fact" that he was young and handsome according to your wife, says nothing about his mental health.

 

Evil speculation that she had him killed. 

Edited September 14, 2023 by FritsSikkink

[JeffersLos]

Lost love can reach deep inside a person's soul.

 

Young, handsome (and rich) people choose to end their lives everywhere. 

 

Multi millionaires that you think have it all kill themselves. 

 

Depression is a beast that outside materialism doesn't effect. 

[Lolothai]

She didn't have any belonging as she left 2 months before his death and the few stuff remaining were thrown away already.

Completely possible that he just hang himself out of sadness.

Evil speculation... like it never happened in the world and every cases has been perfectly solved.

Anyway my conclusion is that if you don't know very well your partner better to worth more alive than dead.

[Lolothai]

2 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

Lost love can reach deep inside a person's soul.

 

Young, handsome (and rich) people choose to end their lives everywhere. 

 

Multi millionaires that you think have it all kill themselves. 

 

Depression is a beast that outside materialism doesn't effect. 

Probality of depression for young, handsome and rich are still lower than others. You would be surprise that they generally have more success in love...

[Lolothai]

In case he did hang himself, I wish I could have discuss with him and tell, eh guy, you are handsome, you will find love again, you can go back to your country make money and we can stay in touch, I could try to help to find a job. Just be patient, I know how hard it is but it will get better.

Now some depression can't be cure I guess, even when everything looks good but it still sadden me to see someone wasted when they have so much potential for happiness but I don't really know in this specific case. Still strange to know someone was living few steps away and was maybe in dire need of help.

[Olmate]

Was,nt Russian by any chance? 

[Nick Carter icp]

Does life insurance pay out in suicides ?

[Gecko123]

I would completely cease and desist from speculating with anyone, including your wife, about the possibility of foul play. You simply have no basis whatsoever to do this. The foreign guy's next of kin will be able to verify that he sent the girlfriend the email she claims he did, and the insurance company will probably want to conduct an autopsy. Presumably, his death has been reported to the police and a report is available. You and your wife can help the next of kin if by helping to coordinate and by providing translation services if needed. That's about all you can and should do.

[Lolothai]

16 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

I would completely cease and desist from speculating with anyone, including your wife, about the possibility of foul play. You simply have no basis whatsoever to do this. The foreign guy's next of kin will be able to verify that he sent the girlfriend the email she claims he did, and the insurance company will probably want to conduct an autopsy. Presumably, his death has been reported to the police and a report is available. You and your wife can help the next of kin if by helping to coordinate and by providing translation services if needed. That's about all you can and should do.

I will not cease speculating, especially when it has absolutely no impact on anyone and I will not refrain to have an opinion. That's a perfect example where foul play is possible. It's just a discussion leading to a warning to anyone who could be in such situation, to be careful, to avoid tempting and attracting the greedy.

This lady was asking everyone if she could suck some money out of the very fresh death of her (ex) boyfriend, apparently she didn't look sad, so yes there is reasons to be suspicious. She will probably not get anything and if indeed she is responsible for her death and have the possibility to get something, insurance would start to care and investigate.

Why would you completely dismiss the possibility of foul play? why are you so disturbed to the idea that people can have an opinion or even doubt and don't believe blindly the conclusion of the police? What consequences would it have except giving awareness to some people?

Edited September 14, 2023 by Lolothai

[scubascuba3]

Life insurance doesn't pay out for suicides, same health insurance

[Gecko123]

59 minutes ago, Lolothai said:

I will not cease speculating, especially when it has absolutely no impact on anyone and I will not refrain to have an opinion. That's a perfect example where foul play is possible. It's just a discussion leading to a warning to anyone who could be in such situation, to be careful, to avoid tempting and attracting the greedy.

This lady was asking everyone if she could suck some money out of the very fresh death of her (ex) boyfriend, apparently she didn't look sad, so yes there is reasons to be suspicious. She will probably not get anything and if indeed she is responsible for her death and have the possibility to get something, insurance would start to care and investigate.

Why would you completely dismiss the possibility of foul play? why are you so disturbed to the idea that people can have an opinion or even doubt and don't believe blindly the conclusion of the police? What consequences would it have except giving awareness to some people?

I was primarily talking about your speculating about potential foul play with your neighbors and people in your area. Speculating that someone might have had something to do with someone's suicide not only can get you into hot water with slander laws but obviously would anger and cause resentment in anyone unfairly gossiped about.

 

Your case for suspecting foul play is weak. As others have pointed out, plenty of young, handsome people, with seemingly everything to live for commit suicide. If the deceased sent her an email alerting her that she was a beneficiary on his life insurance, it's not abnormal for someone to ask those who might be handling his affairs for help in filing a claim. As far as her demeanor being insufficiently mournful, you said they had broken up and moved out some time back. Maybe she wasn't heartbroken that he died. That doesn't mean she killed him, now does it? 

 

If your goal in posting was to raise awareness that people might have a motive to kill you, what lessons would you have us draw from your neighbor's death? Don't take out life insurance naming your evil, unappreciative, skanky girlfriend as a beneficiary? OK. Duly noted.

 

Not trying to be a smart-aleck here. All I was trying to do was caution you about spreading largely unfounded rumors about possible foul play around your neighborhood because it could get you in trouble.

 

Edited September 14, 2023 by Gecko123

[Gecko123]

OP:

 

Sorry for belaboring the point, but...

 

that e-mail she says she received from him telling her she was the beneficiary on the life insurance policy, he may have only sent it  just before he killed himself or even timed the delivery to arrive  posthumously. She may have never even known that she was a beneficiary until after he was already dead.

Edited September 14, 2023 by Gecko123

[steven100]

I would never ever rule out anything in Thailand.

TIT .....   where things do happen whether for greed or whatever. 

we've all heard a thousand stories of foreigners losing their life due to foul play.  Just saying ....

[bluebluewater]

In my country there is a "suicide clause" that normally runs for the first two years of the policy and after that the insurance is paid.  I would not know what the standard is in Thailand.

[billd766]

7 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Nobody? Really? That´s just pure fiction. Sure there are many greedy people in Thailand, as that becomes a higher percentage when the crack between rich and poor is much wider than in many other countries. Especially the countries westerners are used to live in.

However, we are probably talking about maybe 20-25 % (estimated), that are the ones taking advantage of every situation. The rest are just plain decent people that live their life right and fair. That´s what you say everyone about, when using nobody that way.

When my brother died in Canada several years ago, nobody from his family over there bothered to contact me.

 

It was only through the family of his very good friend contacted me and told me that I found out. they gave me the families phone number so I called them.

 

What a surprise when I called. All I wanted to know was if he had left his birth certificate, old UK passport, old photos, any letters from our Mum etc.

 

There was absolutely nothing and I suspect that the family had just bundles it up and thrown it all away. Knowing my brother, he never threw anything away.

 

I didn't even get an invitation to his funeral. In fact I had no idea that he was even ill.

 

So it happens all over the world and not just in Thailand.

[Eff1n2ret]

3 hours ago, Olmate said:

Was,nt Russian by any chance? 

No, Brit apparently. I live on the same Moo Ban and used to see him earlier in the year at the swimming pool with a pre-teen lad. I don't know if he was the dad or just step-dad, but feel sorry for the kid. I've not heard anything else beyond what is already stated.

[billd766]

7 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

She came back because he had her stuff.

If he has a life insurance with her name on it and he leaves the country, she needs the certificate.

All pretty normal to me.

The "fact" that he was young and handsome according to your wife, says nothing about his mental health.

 

Evil speculation that she had him killed. 

ANN/TVF is the home of speculation and there are so many speculative experts on here.

[Albaby]

3 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

done and done unless they want my 1995 honda dream and my 2nd hand clothes....XL size

I'll have your liver and heart thanks, by all your accounts of your boring as <deleted> life, they should be pristine.  Cheers

[Gottfrid]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

When my brother died in Canada several years ago, nobody from his family over there bothered to contact me.

 

It was only through the family of his very good friend contacted me and told me that I found out. they gave me the families phone number so I called them.

 

What a surprise when I called. All I wanted to know was if he had left his birth certificate, old UK passport, old photos, any letters from our Mum etc.

 

There was absolutely nothing and I suspect that the family had just bundles it up and thrown it all away. Knowing my brother, he never threw anything away.

 

I didn't even get an invitation to his funeral. In fact I had no idea that he was even ill.

 

So it happens all over the world and not just in Thailand.

Yeah, and as usual do not post that it only happens in Thailand. I am well aware of that it happens everywhere. However, I have chosen to live in Thailand. I am posting in a Thai forum, so it´s only natural to talk about Thai things and relate to Thailand as that is my home.

[bignok]

6 hours ago, Lolothai said:

She didn't have any belonging as she left 2 months before his death and the few stuff remaining were thrown away already.

Completely possible that he just hang himself out of sadness.

Evil speculation... like it never happened in the world and every cases has been perfectly solved.

Anyway my conclusion is that if you don't know very well your partner better to worth more alive than dead.

Most young people dont have life insurance either. Mainly older people and those with kids.

[bignok]

3 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

I was primarily talking about your speculating about potential foul play with your neighbors and people in your area. Speculating that someone might have had something to do with someone's suicide not only can get you into hot water with slander laws but obviously would anger and cause resentment in anyone unfairly gossiped about.

 

Your case for suspecting foul play is weak. As others have pointed out, plenty of young, handsome people, with seemingly everything to live for commit suicide. If the deceased sent her an email alerting her that she was a beneficiary on his life insurance, it's not abnormal for someone to ask those who might be handling his affairs for help in filing a claim. As far as her demeanor being insufficiently mournful, you said they had broken up and moved out some time back. Maybe she wasn't heartbroken that he died. That doesn't mean she killed him, now does it? 

 

If your goal in posting was to raise awareness that people might have a motive to kill you, what lessons would you have us draw from your neighbor's death? Don't take out life insurance naming your evil, unappreciative, skanky girlfriend as a beneficiary? OK. Duly noted.

 

Not trying to be a smart-aleck here. All I was trying to do was caution you about spreading largely unfounded rumors about possible foul play around your neighborhood because it could get you in trouble.

 

Ex kills himself gf not worried? Thats abnormal dude. Very abnormal. Red flag.

[bignok]

4 hours ago, Lolothai said:

I will not cease speculating, especially when it has absolutely no impact on anyone and I will not refrain to have an opinion. That's a perfect example where foul play is possible. It's just a discussion leading to a warning to anyone who could be in such situation, to be careful, to avoid tempting and attracting the greedy.

This lady was asking everyone if she could suck some money out of the very fresh death of her (ex) boyfriend, apparently she didn't look sad, so yes there is reasons to be suspicious. She will probably not get anything and if indeed she is responsible for her death and have the possibility to get something, insurance would start to care and investigate.

Why would you completely dismiss the possibility of foul play? why are you so disturbed to the idea that people can have an opinion or even doubt and don't believe blindly the conclusion of the police? What consequences would it have except giving awareness to some people?

Sounds very suss.

[bunnydrops]

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Does life insurance pay out in suicides ?

NO!

[bignok]

2 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

NO!

It does after 2 years normally

[steven100]

13 minutes ago, bignok said:

It does after 2 years normally

a thai can't wait 2 weeks ....   let alone 2 years

[bignok]

18 minutes ago, steven100 said:

a thai can't wait 2 weeks ....   let alone 2 years

Why would an unmarried guy no kids take out life insurance for a st gf?