Is anyone else as confused as me as to why the US hasn't seized the opportunity to eliminate Putin & Kim Jong un at the same time

[Jingthing]

37 minutes ago, steven100 said:

why wouldn't it make sense to get rid of them ...  the war would cease tomorrow imo.

It would not.

[SuperSaiyan]

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Please educate yourself... wait, nevermind!   

Saddam was executed after a trial, Gaddafi was killed, probably, by his own countrymen.

 

[Liverpool Lou]

3 minutes ago, SuperSaiyan said:

19 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

How was Saddam's execution a crime?

Weapons of mass destruction, anyone?

He wasn't executed after his trial (and conviction) for allegedly having weapons of mass destruction.  He was tried for war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide.

[connda]

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Is anyone else as confused as me as to why the US hasn't seized the opportunity to eliminate Putin & Kim Jong un at the same time

Mutually Assured Destruction

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[CharlieKo]

2 hours ago, steven100 said:

nonsense ... how is that any different from Saddam Hussian or Gadaffi or any other tyrant.

 

Saddam and Gadaffi didn't have nukes! You want to start WW111? 

[CharlieKo]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

It would not.

I wonder how many Nukes would hit the USA. 

[still kicking]

6 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

Saddam and Gadaffi didn't have nukes! You want to start WW111? 

After 6 bottles of Chang I am not surprised.

[mania]

2 hours ago, steven100 said:

nonsense ... how is that any different from Saddam Hussian or Gadaffi or any other tyrant.

 

Your not serious are you?

You do realize those that you name above were the lap dogs of the USA for many years....Heck you can add Bin Laden to that list too

 

It was when they stopped obeying orders that they were suddenly deemed terrorist

 

Where do you think Osama got his weaponry? It was given to him to kill Russians in Afghanistan when he was done he told the US now you get out too. So he returned the weaponry one bullet at a time

 

Gadaffi ? He decided he would no longer sell his sweet crude to the US & France so they took it under the guise of helping the Libyan rebels who also set up a Central Bank while doing so

 

Saddam? Big lap dog that helped US puppet regime ...He decided he would no longer price his oil in USD he also suddenly became a terrorist

 

 

So maybe your confused as to who is the likely tyrant ????

 

[rattlesnake]

4 hours ago, save the frogs said:

one prediction i came across.

russia will lose the war.

putin regime will be replaced by a pro-USA regime

russia will become part of EU.

is it bs? 

 

"Is it BS?"

Yes! Thanks for the laugh.

[Jenkins9039]

Nuclear bombs and hypersonic missiles?

[Dionigi]

14 hours ago, steven100 said:

nonsense ... how is that any different from Saddam Hussian or Gadaffi or any other tyrant.

 

and that worked out well didn't it?

[Dcheech]

14 hours ago, steven100 said:

I'm not sure what the US is trying to achieve but if I poured billions of $$ into this war I'd want it over asap ......   ?   it's really getting strange that the US & NATO let it drag on ....

So you want to nuke them both. What a maroon. 

 

[IndomitableSpirit]

I do wonder about that at times. Send a sniper or someone who can take them both down, but that's just me and my gamer-self thinking. ????????????????‍♀️

 

On a serious note, the US can eliminate Russia and N.Korea if they'd like to but that's a bad business move. Iykyk????

[LaosLover]

"Why aren't all policy decision processes available, at all times, for my amusement?".

 

Relatedly, in a wrestling bout between Jesus and Superman, who would win?

[foureyes10]

Who or what gives you the right to trumpet this nonsense, the US killed Gadafi because he wanted to sell crude for other than USD, they killed Hussien because he didn't want haliburton to own Irac oil, they hate Kim because he wont lie down for the US, they hate Putin because he wants to sell oil and gas to europe for lower prices thus cutting American oil companies out of some profits...In my opinion I think Iran is right calling the USA the "great satan" ,  every policy decion they have made in the last 100 years has hurt the world!

[transam]

Just now, foureyes10 said:

Who or what gives you the right to trumpet this nonsense, the US killed Gadafi because he wanted to sell crude for other than USD, they killed Hussien because he didn't want haliburton to own Irac oil, they hate Kim because he wont lie down for the US, they hate Putin because he wants to sell oil and gas to europe for lower prices thus cutting American oil companies out of some profits...In my opinion I think Iran is right calling the USA the "great satan" ,  every policy decion they have made in the last 100 years has hurt the world!

Very funny......................................????

[itsallmine68]

WHY? Because they dont want another Iraq. They should have let Saddam alone. Plus they dont want into a war where they lose young Americans again like Vietnam or Iraq

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, itsallmine68 said:

WHY? Because they dont want another Iraq. They should have let Saddam alone. Plus they dont want into a war where they lose young Americans again like Vietnam or Iraq

Not necessary.

Ukrainians can win with their own troops but they do need enough military aid to actually win and they do need the west to understand not to have unreasonable expectations as far as the timeline.

[Jingthing]

Assassinating Putin would make things worse.

[Cory1848]

14 hours ago, save the frogs said:

one prediction i came across.

russia will lose the war.

putin regime will be replaced by a pro-USA regime

russia will become part of EU.

is it bs? 

 

No, not BS. The Putin regime will be replaced by a regime chosen by or at least acceptable to the Russian people, whether pro-US or not. That said, I would frankly like to see Russia under progressive leadership as part of the EU as well as NATO, and lots of other countries as well. The Western democratic model that the EU operates under provides better quality of life, prosperity, and freedom for all people than any other system *yet devised* (factoring in much stricter regulation of neoliberal capitalism, which remains problematic); this is what the Ukrainians recognize and are fighting for, and what Russians and others would want for themselves as well.

 

Encouraging broad membership in international bodies, and giving those bodies real power, leads to better management of global issues and problems, rather than continuing to engage in silly tribal wars. I’m in favor of human evolution and refuse to believe it’s not possible; if that’s naïve, so be it.

[newbee2022]

15 hours ago, freeworld said:

Are you suggesting extrajudicial murder of two different countries leaders.

 

That in itself is also criminal.

Agreed. However, done by US/CIA in the past many times.

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[Bangkok Barry]

14 hours ago, Furioso said:

I don't know, seems unlikely. I doubt Russia will lose.

Have you seen how little Russian troops have advanced in a war that Putrid thought would be over in days? I doubt they cover even 10% of Ukraine. So, why do you think Russia will take over the other 90%, and when?

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

No, not BS. The Putin regime will be replaced by a regime chosen by or at least acceptable to the Russian people, whether pro-US or not. That said, I would frankly like to see Russia under progressive leadership as part of the EU as well as NATO, and lots of other countries as well. The Western democratic model that the EU operates under provides better quality of life, prosperity, and freedom for all people than any other system *yet devised* (factoring in much stricter regulation of neoliberal capitalism, which remains problematic); this is what the Ukrainians recognize and are fighting for, and what Russians and others would want for themselves as well.

 

Encouraging broad membership in international bodies, and giving those bodies real power, leads to better management of global issues and problems, rather than continuing to engage in silly tribal wars. I’m in favor of human evolution and refuse to believe it’s not possible; if that’s naïve, so be it.

Nah.

It's going to take Russia generations to normalize if ever.

[Jingthing]

Just now, Bangkok Barry said:

Have you seen how little Russian troops have advanced in a war that Putrid thought would be over in days? I doubt they cover even 10% of Ukraine. So, why do you think Russia will take over the other 90%, and when?

Russia occupies over 20 percent. 

If they take Odessa Ukraine is toast.

If Ukraine takes Crimea then Ukraine will win.

Blow up that bridge!

 

[Cory1848]

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Nah.

It's going to take Russia generations to normalize if ever.

You’re probably right. And there are all those people in the Russian hinterland who want Stalin to come back. There was a period of optimism under Gorbachev and Yeltsin, but the US itself may have botched that with “disaster capitalism” (see Naomi Klein).

[Berkshire]

8 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

No, not BS. The Putin regime will be replaced by a regime chosen by or at least acceptable to the Russian people, whether pro-US or not.

 

That's funny.  Russia hasn't had a free and fair election in decades.  Even if Putin was eliminated (by external forces, i.e., US), those in power will want to stay in power.  Now if Putin was taken out by internal forces (i.e., Russians), whole different ballgame.

[MrJ2U]

I'm sure that's crossed a few minds. 

[silverhawk_usa]

If anyone seriously wants to know the law and the history behind it, the information is here.  Also the answer to a number of the previous questions.....

https://www.britannica.com/event/Executive-Order-11905

 

 

[Cory1848]

5 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

That's funny.  Russia hasn't had a free and fair election in decades.  Even if Putin was eliminated (by external forces, i.e., US), those in power will want to stay in power.  Now if Putin was taken out by internal forces (i.e., Russians), whole different ballgame.

Quite right, and if Putin were taken out by an external force, he would be replaced by even worse hardliners, which would be a nightmare. It needs to come from inside (even if Russia’s experience with revolutions has not always led to the best results!).

[Berkshire]

15 hours ago, steven100 said:

Why hasn't or doesn't the US go after Putin and Kim Jong and exterminate them as soon as possible.

I doubt you're serious.  Countries don't just assassinate other countries' leaders.  Surely you understand that whoever replaces them could be worse.  And it would be open season on every country's leaders.  I doubt China would stand idly by.  Fact is, if the US wanted to take out Putin or Kim Jong Un, they'd be dead already.  They wouldn't have to wait for the two to be together.