Weighing passengers to become standard for Bangkok Airways

[chilli42]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

To crack the code of standard passenger weight and averages to safely calculate flight load

Maybe but my cynical side says it’s about the $$$.  

[Brigante7]

31 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Where in the article did it mention charging more for talls and fatties ?

Seriously, are you really that naive? It's only ever about making more money. 

 

 

 

Brigante7.

[bkk75]

I think it’s an interesting move even if it does raise some eyebrows. I hope eventually it will be mandatory to put your weight as part of the initial booking. Those who are under weight can benefit from having extra baggage. Then it comes an issue what is “normal” weight.

[Snig27]

8 hours ago, Bim Smith said:

You do know muscle weighs way more than fat so I will have a problem

How on earth can muscle weight more than fat. A kilo weights the same as a kilo. 

[mikebike]

Just now, Snig27 said:

How on earth can muscle weight more than fat. A kilo weights the same as a kilo. 

Oh boy... ???? Think density. The muscle to fat comparison is a comparison of weight per volume. 

[PETERTHEEATER]

8 hours ago, stoner said:

weight is kind of important when it comes to keeping a steel structure flying through the air at hundreds of miles an hour. 

I'm trying to think of an example of a steel structure flying through the air......

[CDG931]

 

This idea is reasonable, and makes sense in this context, particularly when it comes to smaller turboprop aircraft (ATR72-600s)

 

Edited September 18, 2023 by CDG931

[digger70]

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

Where in the article did it mention charging more for talls and fatties ?

They didn't But some airlines were talking about charging bigger people Extra yrs ago .

I Forgot what airline it was .

[PingRoundTheWorld]

8 hours ago, MurakamiX said:

Somebody who is fit and healthy, should not have to pay. the same amount as somebody who cannot stop eating cake with zero care for their own health and consumerism.

The actual difference in fuel consumption between someone who's 50kg or someone who's 100kg amounts to a few hundred baht at most for domestic flights in Thailand. Under 300 baht BKK to Phuket. Under 200 baht BKK to Samui. So before you guys go spewing your "I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY SAME RATES AS FATTY" might want to actually fact check yourself.

As for the idea to weight passengers before flights - what the actual ****?!? Will never fly Bangkok Air if they continue to do this. Hopefully this "brilliant" plan fails miserably and other airlines don't follow. They have no business nor right to invade our privacy like that.

[PETERTHEEATER]

Passengers who weigh above a specified amount at the departure gate will be given a coupon which will guide them down a separate tunnel onto an aircraft with the word CARGO lettered on the fuselage.

[Liverpool Lou]

10 hours ago, liddelljohn said:

hopefully the super obese  will be alloted 2 seats

Hopefully, they won't be just allotted, they'll be forced to purchase two seats!

[crazykopite]

I don’t use them way to expensive just to travel within Thailand 

[Bim Smith]

7 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

One pound of muscle is exactly the same weight as one pound of fat... one pound...  

But the fat will be three times the mass. You're obviously not the brightest 

[Phulublub]

17 minutes ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

The actual difference in fuel consumption between someone who's 50kg or someone who's 100kg amounts to a few hundred baht at most for domestic flights in Thailand. Under 300 baht BKK to Phuket. Under 200 baht BKK to Samui. So before you guys go spewing your "I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY SAME RATES AS FATTY" might want to actually fact check yourself.

As for the idea to weight passengers before flights - what the actual ****?!? Will never fly Bangkok Air if they continue to do this. Hopefully this "brilliant" plan fails miserably and other airlines don't follow. They have no business nor right to invade our privacy like that.

THB 300 extra to HKT...so about 15% of the air fare then.  Seems fair enought to me to charge the slim and thin 1850 and the overeaters 2150.....

 

PH

[stoner]

33 minutes ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

I'm trying to think of an example of a steel structure flying through the air......

and i'm trying to think of how to explain it for the 3rd time. you clearly stopped reading the thread. 

[Grusa]

3 hours ago, nchuckle said:

What I do in that instance is to confiscate their in flight meal for myself so i can expand ever so slightly at their expense to partially offset the bias..

No one can get fat on an airline meal..... or even on two!

[Keep Right]

Its about time. People should pay by the pounds they weigh and the space they occupy.

[MurakamiX]

6 hours ago, Tequila makes me happy said:

Bullsh*t. I weigh 245lb, lift heavy weights 4 times a week and have just finished my thrice weekly morning 10km run. 

My heart is beating away happily and consistently and through exercise intend to keep it that way.

 

You should look into it. The heart doesn't care if it's muscle or fat, it's still a burden to carry around. Most body builders die young. 

[Joe Farang]

Ls.

9 hours ago, MurakamiX said:

Amazing and commonsensical.
Somebody who is fit and healthy, should not have to pay. the same amount as somebody who cannot stop eating cake with zero care for their own health and consumerism. Net weight for the win 

But you will have to pay more if you are a Western male.

You are more likely to be taller and bigger than ladies. Also bigger and taller than most Asians. Don't for one second think this will impact the obese only. That it is being introduced for load balancing opens the gate for future chargjng for heavier people.

[Liverpool Lou]

"Weighing passengers to become standard for Bangkok Airways"

 

...only until 31st October!

[MurakamiX]

42 minutes ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

The actual difference in fuel consumption between someone who's 50kg or someone who's 100kg amounts to a few hundred baht at most for domestic flights in Thailand. Under 300 baht BKK to Phuket. Under 200 baht BKK to Samui. So before you guys go spewing your "I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY SAME RATES AS FATTY" might want to actually fact check yourself.

As for the idea to weight passengers before flights - what the actual ****?!? Will never fly Bangkok Air if they continue to do this. Hopefully this "brilliant" plan fails miserably and other airlines don't follow. They have no business nor right to invade our privacy like that.

It's pretty simple. There are a set amount of seats, and we have a limit to the KGs of luggage we can bring on. If we go over that luggage amount, we need to pay extra. So why should there be no limit on body weight? It should be total net weight of you plus luggage. If you are someone who can't stop indulging in gluttony, you should have to pay the consequences. Being obese should be a shameful situation, and in terms of business and flying, it should be taxed fairly.  

[MurakamiX]

4 minutes ago, Joe Farang said:

Ls.

But you will have to pay more if you are a Western male.

You are more likely to be taller and bigger than ladies. Also bigger and taller than most Asians. Don't for one second think this will impact the obese only. That it is being introduced for load balancing opens the gate for future chargjng for heavier people.

That doesn't bother me. 

[Muzzique]

Please read the article correctly. The headline is misleading. They are simple conducting a voluntary anonymous short term survey to ascertain the average passenger weight for future planning not planning to charge people by their size.

 

Same as New Zealand Airways and Korean Air which are short term research projects in one or 2 airports to update average customer weight information that is almost 20 years old.

 

In my humble opinion if they tried to impose a pay by weight policy it could create serious problems

 

1. it would be impossible to police until the checkin where the backlash at the desk could be catastrophic

2. It could create an us and them division between the fat, overheight or Muscular and the thin

3. Larger size cultures would see it as an attack on their freedoms

4. Women especially do not like to share such personal information neither would many men

5. It could promote a view that thin is the correct body type which the world is currently trying to redress

6. It could generate serious health concerns by promoting crash dieting and weight control before flying

 

Any airline that tried to charge people by weight would be committing economic suicide as in the case of Samoa Air. No other airlines have since taken up this policy.

 

 

Edited September 18, 2023 by Muzzique

[ThaiFelix]

9 hours ago, MurakamiX said:

Somebody who is a body builder and say 250lbs, is not healthy. They can barely breathe while walking. It all comes down to the weight your heart must carry around all day, and in this instance, the weight you put onto a plane. 

yeah but they can lift hevvy fings

[ThaiFelix]

I am going to enjoy being in the line and a loud mouth from a certain country has to pay more than me to get the same seats on the same flight hahaha!
 

[off road pat]

12 hours ago, ukrules said:

Maybe they also start measuring our leg length and issue better seats to those who are tall?

Hm,...Everything they do will be in there own interests,...not the passengers interests !!!

[redwood1]

19 minutes ago, MurakamiX said:

It's pretty simple. There are a set amount of seats, and we have a limit to the KGs of luggage we can bring on. If we go over that luggage amount, we need to pay extra. So why should there be no limit on body weight? It should be total net weight of you plus luggage. If you are someone who can't stop indulging in gluttony, you should have to pay the consequences. Being obese should be a shameful situation, and in terms of business and flying, it should be taxed fairly.  

Did you foget to take your Meds today?.....Its ok we have a nice padded room for you....

 

Body weight does not mean Jack.....If it did there would have been charges decades ago..

[FarangFB]

12 hours ago, webfact said:

Foreign giants

I glanced at the paragraphs and for a second I thought they were talking about the passengers 

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[Ralf001]

2 hours ago, Brigante7 said:

Seriously, are you really that naive? It's only ever about making more money. 

 

 

 

Brigante7.

So they will charge talls and fatties more per seat to cover the reduced PAX due to payload limits ?