Getting used to live in a wheel chair

[jts-khorat]

8 hours ago, Denim said:

Only problem with electric scooters and tricycles if you live away from a big city is finding someone who can repair them when they need it.

 

They have become quite the usual sight in Isaan, so finding somebody who repairs them might not be that much of an issue even in the deepest countryside. The main problem is the charger and the battery, both easily exchanged (especially if you have enough money where you need to think about everything twice before you buy).

 

The biggest issue I have seen with many people having to use a wheelchair from one day to the next: right at the beginning, they loose all the will to move. This will hurt them later on a lot, because muscle loss (especially at the age of your friend) is not easily countered if you are largely immobile to begin with, and latest then he is on the slippery slope.

 

The more he moves around right from the start -- either in or out of the wheelchair -- the better life quality he will have in the following years. Being active also gives him a lot less time to dwell on his fate, so fighting to get back a positive attitude is maybe even more important for any life quality.

 

Good suggestions on what to do have been posted by others.

Edited November 4, 2023 by jts-khorat

[Denim]

1 hour ago, jts-khorat said:

They have become quite the usual sight in Isaan, so finding somebody who repairs them might not be that much of an issue even in the deepest countryside.

 

They were a very usual sight here in lower Petchabun until a few months ago but they are gradually becoming fewer since the one guy who could fix them moved away. For those that have a pick up truck they can load it aboard and drive to wherever it can be repaired in the provincial capitol. Without a means to get it to where it can be repaired .....you are stuffed. Worth pointing out that those three wheelers are usually very heavy on account of the batteries.

[JimTripper]

4 hours ago, Andre0720 said:

I would think that Biden might be in a position to help in this situation...

 

But seriously, kind of sad, but our youth will all be stolen by old age.

 

Lost a good friend lately. He had accumulated a good amount of money, that he so difficultly spent.

I remember telling him: 'Estimate the number of days you have left to live, divide your wealth by that number, and the result is what you should spend every day. If you fail to do that, your legacy will end up doing it for you.

He ended up spending a bit more, but for most people in the same situation, it appears like their objective, is that when they die, that would be the day that they would have been the richest in their life... Well, he ended up achieved that...

Beware...

 

 

no way to do that. nobody knows how many days they have left and what future expenses are.

Edited November 4, 2023 by JimTripper

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, Celsius said:

 

No need to feel sorry for me. My life does not depend on Thai prostitutes.

Yet.

[JimTripper]

i can't blame the guy. i would not want to be in pattaya in a wheelchair either. i would probably just end up sitting in my room and drinking at bars nearby. the reason being, that's the main attraction of the area.

Edited November 5, 2023 by JimTripper

[Ralf001]

If he has the coin !

 

https://www.mobility.fun/offroad-wheelchair

 

[brianthainess]

20 hours ago, giddyup said:

Tell that to Mick Jagger and Keith Richard.

Cliff Richard was/is touring at 83

[OneMoreFarang]

20 hours ago, giddyup said:

Tell that to Mick Jagger and Keith Richard.

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

They can afford the best doctors to keep them alive.

[thaibeachlovers]

33 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I still remember an interview Jaggar gave in which he said he couldn't imagine being in a band after about 40 or something like that. If I remember correctly he was even a bit derogatory about old rockers.

 

They must be about the only long existing band that kept making the same sort of music while making it relevant to the decade.

Even Fleetwood Mac, the best long existing band EVER, went through different phases and members ( yes I haven't forgotten the unwanted Stone, but that was almost at the start ). The early music when Peter Green was in the band was completely different to when the females joined, though it actually got better then.

[brianthainess]

I spent a year in a wheelchair, luckily all I had were broken bones/pelvis, I could only just walk on crutches, after one month, putting very little weight on my legs. I won't bore you with 18 month recovery. 

Try to find a heated hydrotherapy swimming pool with disability access for him, I found it so good, with no weight, I understand he may not ever recover, but the feeling of being able to move around in the water gave me such a good feeling. I had a list of physio exercises to do There are also Taxis with wheelchair ramps if he gets that bad. Also the choice of wheelchair is important some are really heavy, others are lightweight good for putting in a car. Plenty of poorish  disabled Thais  I have seen with modified M/C, one trike I've seen, he goes up the back in his wheelchair. but at 80 I'd not be doing that. Get him swimming if you can.

[thaibeachlovers]

Re my Jagger comment................................

 

PS

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a19125/mick-jagger-70th-birthday/

 

It was all the way back in 1975 when Mick Jagger famously told People magazine, "I'd rather be dead than sing 'Satisfaction' when I'm 45," so with his 70th birthday today and a Stones tour that wrapped just a couple of weeks ago where "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" was most definitely on the set list, he's still breaking that promise a full 25 years after that original cutoff date.

[thaibeachlovers]

Re my Jagger comment................................

 

PS

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a19125/mick-jagger-70th-birthday/

 

It was all the way back in 1975 when Mick Jagger famously told People magazine, "I'd rather be dead than sing 'Satisfaction' when I'm 45," so with his 70th birthday today and a Stones tour that wrapped just a couple of weeks ago where "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" was most definitely on the set list, he's still breaking that promise a full 25 years after that original cutoff date.

[Andre0720]

10 hours ago, JimTripper said:

no way to do that. nobody knows how many days they have left and what future expenses are.

Just give it a try... Maybe you can at least get close to an ideal.

Just like, if you put aside $500,000 for eventual medical expenses.

Some $50,000, in case you get hungry.

Some $50,000, in case your dwelling needs repairs.

 

And if you still have on million dollars left, do you really think it is better to die with it, or try to enjoy it while you are still alive.

Many people choose to die with it...

[NextG]

1 hour ago, JimTripper said:

i can't blame the guy. i would not want to be in pattaya in a wheelchair either. i would probably just end up sitting in my room and drinking at bars nearby. the reason being, that's the main attraction of the area.

That would the main attraction for you 😊

I have no interest in visiting them at all. 

Edited November 5, 2023 by NextG

[freeworld]

22 hours ago, giddyup said:

Tell that to Mick Jagger and Keith Richard.

When one sees the gaunt wrinkly faced old men who cant let go of trying to appear young.

[giddyup]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

They can afford the best doctors to keep them alive.

it's not just being alive, it's still being creative and able to perform live concerts, same with Paul McCartney.

[giddyup]

Just now, freeworld said:

When one sees the gaunt wrinkly faced old men who cant let go of trying to appear young.

What will be your accomplishment at 80, veging out in a nursing home?

[Lacessit]

19 minutes ago, giddyup said:

it's not just being alive, it's still being creative and able to perform live concerts, same with Paul McCartney.

IIRC, apart from making money the other reason was to pull chicks. They are still making lots of money, I doubt they get as many freebies.

[Neeranam]

On 11/4/2023 at 9:46 AM, KannikaP said:

Why go to Switzerland? There are plenty of similar ways-out here in Thailand. 

Maybe against his religion.

[giddyup]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

IIRC, apart from making money the other reason was to pull chicks. They are still making lots of money, I doubt they get as many freebies.

Paul McCartney is worth $800 million and Jagger $500 million, so I doubt making money is the reason for still performing. I imagine they love what they do and that's the driving force.

[Henryford]

What impressed me about Pattaya when i first came was the number of guys who were able to get around in wheelchairs and enter bars/a gogos and still have a good time. Back in the UK you would be a social pariah in that position.

[brianthainess]

1 hour ago, brianthainess said:

Get him swimming if you can.

I meant to add I used a swimming 'Noodle' lots of ways to use that to strengthen muscles, bend in a U shape push down with a foot and arms, round the back of the neck and under the arms, sit there like an armchair kick the legs if possible.

 

[Henryford]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

They can afford the best doctors to keep them alive.

 

Didn't do Steve Jobs much good.

[Lacessit]

9 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Paul McCartney is worth $800 million and Jagger $500 million, so I doubt making money is the reason for still performing. I imagine they love what they do and that's the driving force.

Depends on what their outgoings are, apparently Elton John is nearly broke with his extravagance. Having said that, point taken.

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, Henryford said:

What impressed me about Pattaya when i first came was the number of guys who were able to get around in wheelchairs and enter bars/a gogos and still have a good time. Back in the UK you would be a social pariah in that position.

 

   Were those Pattaya go go bars like a USA drive in movie 

 

[Lacessit]

5 minutes ago, Henryford said:

 

Didn't do Steve Jobs much good.

Modern medicine can't cure everyone, a probability of 0.9 is about as good as it gets.

[giddyup]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Depends on what their outgoings are, apparently Elton John is nearly broke with his extravagance. Having said that, point taken.

I'd love to be as nearly broke as Elton with a net worth of $650 million.

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Modern medicine can't cure everyone, a probability of 0.9 is about as good as it gets.

And there's no cure for old age, other than to die young.

[JimTripper]

1 hour ago, Andre0720 said:

Just give it a try... Maybe you can at least get close to an ideal.

Just like, if you put aside $500,000 for eventual medical expenses.

Some $50,000, in case you get hungry.

Some $50,000, in case your dwelling needs repairs.

 

And if you still have on million dollars left, do you really think it is better to die with it, or try to enjoy it while you are still alive.

Many people choose to die with it...

many people find it comforting that they won't run out of money. if you spend it down that security cushion and piece of mind evaporates.